Society ?

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Re: Society ?

Post by exilecanada » Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:53 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 3:44 pm
Possibly a little bit longer but there are masses of trials happening across the world right now of machines doing bricklaying, carpentry and plastering.

I saw a demo in China where this robot plastered a wall with expert precision and speed.

I certainly wouldn’t rule it out especially the speed in which technology is developing.

As another poster mentioned, tradies aren’t going anywhere. I’d like to see a robot crawl under the dashboard of your car to fix an electrical problem :D

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Re: Society ?

Post by ollieclarets8 » Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:56 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:53 pm
As another poster mentioned, tradies aren’t going anywhere. I’d like to see a robot crawl under the dashboard of your car to fix an electrical problem :D
Give it 3 years and they will.

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Re: Society ?

Post by exilecanada » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:00 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 4:56 pm
Give it 3 years and they will.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

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Re: Society ?

Post by ollieclarets8 » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:07 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:00 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
Another example.

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Re: Society ?

Post by exilecanada » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:14 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:07 pm
Another example.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

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Re: Society ?

Post by ollieclarets8 » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:20 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:14 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:
What the hell is wrong with you? You can't even debate properly.

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Re: Society ?

Post by exilecanada » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:38 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:20 pm
What the hell is wrong with you? You can't even debate properly.

I use this board for my own entertainment and have absolutely no interest in debating anything with you or any other anonymous person on this board. I post my opinions or views, if you or anyone else doesn’t like them.........c’est la vie
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Re: Society ?

Post by ollieclarets8 » Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:51 pm

exilecanada wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:38 pm
I use this board for my own entertainment and have absolutely no interest in debating
The whole point of messageboards and forums is to debate. It's an online community. It's literally to facilitate conversations between people.

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Re: Society ?

Post by exilecanada » Thu Aug 28, 2025 6:08 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 5:51 pm
The whole point of messageboards and forums is to debate. It's an online community. It's literally to facilitate conversations between people.

You use the board for your own purpose, I'll use it for mine. Meanwhile, back at the ranch................. :D

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Re: Society ?

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:47 pm

Far too much drug and alcohol abuse.

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Re: Society ?

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:00 pm

What we are seeing is what the economist J.K.Galbraith predicted in his book, " The Affluent Society " published in 1958. He warned of what he called, " private affluence & public squalor ", meaning that we increasingly retreat behind the doors of our homes, which contain luxuries our Grandparents could only dream of, huge HD televisions, Cookers, air-friers, state of the art white goods etc, and we drive increasingly luxurious cars but on poorly maintained, weed infested streets. Increasingly grass verges are unmown, trapping litter, bollards are smashed, graffiti is everywhere with town centres & public buildings left to rot ...

It's increasingly an " I'm all right, Jack " society, with fly-tipping, litter etc ... " Someone should do, something ! " but never them. It's a society that is all too quick to talk about their " rights ", but far too little about people's " responsibilities " to each other and society in general. There are, of course, many wonderful groups and individuals doing great work to help others and combat this trend. It's sad ..
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Re: Society ?

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:19 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:00 pm
What we are seeing is what the economist J.K.Galbraith predicted in his book, " The Affluent Society " published in 1958. He warned of what he called, " private affluence & public squalor ", meaning that we increasingly retreat behind the doors of our homes, which contain luxuries our Grandparents could only dream of, huge HD televisions, Cookers, air-friers, state of the art white goods etc, and we drive increasingly luxurious cars but on poorly maintained, weed infested streets. Increasingly grass verges are unmown, trapping litter, bollards are smashed, graffiti is everywhere with town centres & public buildings left to rot ...

It's increasingly an " I'm all right, Jack " society, with fly-tipping, litter etc ... " Someone should do, something ! " but never them. It's a society that is all too quick to talk about their " rights ", but far too little about people's " responsibilities " to each other and society in general. There are, of course, many wonderful groups and individuals doing great work to help others and combat this trend. It's sad ..
Some prediction that and thanks for the heads up on the book, I'll give it a whirl.

Other than growing wealth inequality, I believe there is strong correlation between the rise of reality TV and algorithm-driven social media and the reduction in social cohesion & community.

Most things in mainstream culture/on TV/trends tend to be dumbing people down, it's not aspirational stuff, it's race to the bottom crap.

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Re: Society ?

Post by Mrpotatohead » Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:32 pm

Bowclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:55 am
People just do not give a s..t anymore ! I confronted a bell end last night that parked in a disabled spot - clearly not disabled - apart from his brain !!! That makes my blood boil. It’s selfish and lazy. The verbal abuse I got was unbelievable. BUT, all caught on camera.

So regression - in a very long way !
Oddly enough, I don't have an issue with this necessarily. I'm not jumping on you personally but would be interested in the context for two reasons. Firstly, if it is one of two, maybe three bays in a small car park, I'm in agreement with you. If it's outside a supermarket at 8pm when there are 25 disabled bays and 40 family spaces free, I don't see the problem. My second point is 'clearly not disabled', it's worth pausing for a moment to remember that not all disabilities are visible. The bloke could have chronic bowel or bladder conditions and be desperate to use the facilities.

None of the above excuses the abuse though, obviously.

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Re: Society ?

Post by Clarets4me » Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:39 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:19 pm
Some prediction that and thanks for the heads up on the book, I'll give it a whirl.

Other than growing wealth inequality, I believe there is strong correlation between the rise of reality TV and algorithm-driven social media and the reduction in social cohesion & community. Most things in mainstream culture/on TV/trends tend to be dumbing people down, it's not aspirational stuff, it's race to the bottom crap.
It's been in print continuously since it was first published ...

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Re: Society ?

Post by exilecanada » Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:51 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:00 pm
What we are seeing is what the economist J.K.Galbraith predicted in his book, " The Affluent Society " published in 1958. He warned of what he called, " private affluence & public squalor ", meaning that we increasingly retreat behind the doors of our homes, which contain luxuries our Grandparents could only dream of, huge HD televisions, Cookers, air-friers, state of the art white goods etc, and we drive increasingly luxurious cars but on poorly maintained, weed infested streets. Increasingly grass verges are unmown, trapping litter, bollards are smashed, graffiti is everywhere with town centres & public buildings left to rot ...

It's increasingly an " I'm all right, Jack " society, with fly-tipping, litter etc ... " Someone should do, something ! " but never them. It's a society that is all too quick to talk about their " rights ", but far too little about people's " responsibilities " to each other and society in general. There are, of course, many wonderful groups and individuals doing great work to help others and combat this trend. It's sad ..
Not to mention when the ‘do gooders’ discover there’s a public housing project planned for their neighbourhood there’s an outburst of NYMBY :roll:

Plus George Orwell has some interesting views which came true :o

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Re: Society ?

Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Aug 28, 2025 11:40 pm

jlup1980 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:09 pm
...starts with poor parenting, and continues through school, and into adult life. Without a buy in from parents many kids just don't bother with school... The kids fail, blame the school, struggle with building a meaningful life as an adult... It's rinse and repeat with each generation. Obviously, this is a very simplified ideal, and I'm not suggesting everyone is like this, but you get the idea...
A Simplified ideal, but with a basis in truth and a truth which is exacerbated by the reproductive cycle: Again a generalisation but those disengaged parents tend to produce more children per generation and with a shorter generational cycle. So, beginning with a couple producing 2.4 children, repeat every 30 years and after a 120 years you have doubled their numbers. While a couple producing 3.6 children, repeated every twenty five years will have increased their numbers x15, Make that second generational cycle 20 years - not inaccurate in many areas - and you are looking at 34x their number at 120 years... The non-contributors are fast outbreeding those who's taxes they look to to support them
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Re: Society ?

Post by karatekid » Fri Aug 29, 2025 12:00 am

I went to a pub I shall not name last bank holiday weekend and I remarked to my missus how nice it was to see a group of young lads and lasses, late teens, early twenties enjoying a quiet drink and playing pool.
Unfortunately when I went to the gents some of the same nice lads were snorting the white powder openly and without any shame. No trouble from them but it certainly made me more wary of them as I don’t fully understand the impact it has.

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Re: Society ?

Post by Dressinggown » Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:14 am

Disregard of any obligations, whatever appears to have previously been accepted has become completely screwed up.

Nobody gives a flying f*ck unless it benefits themselves.

Social media has become a huge issue whilst AI will shape our future. For better or worse ?

I'm fortunate in that I am old enough to process some of the crap that is going on.

Try getting a job nowadays and your potential employers will just dig into your media profile.

People park on double yellow lines outside my house and then wait for confirmation that their takeaway is ready from the local place. They then get a call and blast on their horns for someone to drop off their pizza or curry.

Arseholes.

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Re: Society ?

Post by Dressinggown » Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:06 am

As.said, this post doesn't really serve any real purpose.

This is a message board and should be welcomed for the opinions of all. Well done to all that take their time to run this.

It's not all about Burnley FC but I appreciate all the information that this site provides about the club.

Keep things going !

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Re: Society ?

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:59 am

People of all generations are the same. It’s just with modern technology you see it en masse play out, the good and the bad.

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Re: Society ?

Post by Dressinggown » Fri Aug 29, 2025 4:41 am

As you will already realise I spout my own crap.

But, where do we go from here ?

Live on our phones, await Artificial intelligence to carry out our daily tasks ?

Die at the age of 150 ?

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Re: Society ?

Post by jlup1980 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:52 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 1:14 pm
Would love to hear your thoughts on a better option?
That's the million dollar question. You can't put social media back in a box, which is a huge driver. You can't change generational distrust in educational systems, but you also can change people's propensity to believe what they want to believe on social media. We are in a very dangerous position as a society. It's all getting a bit 1984 - “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — for ever.”

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Re: Society ?

Post by Greenmile » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:59 am

exilecanada wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:51 pm
Not to mention when the ‘do gooders’ discover there’s a public housing project planned for their neighbourhood there’s an outburst of NYMBY :roll:

Plus George Orwell has some interesting views which came true :o
Not yard my back yard?

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Re: Society ?

Post by Claretfanatic1982 » Fri Aug 29, 2025 10:32 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 7:47 pm
Far too much drug and alcohol abuse.
In society or on here!

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Re: Society ?

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Aug 29, 2025 10:46 am

exilecanada wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:51 pm
Not to mention when the ‘do gooders’ discover there’s a public housing project planned for their neighbourhood there’s an outburst of NYMBY :roll:
Plus George Orwell has some interesting views which came true :o
My favourite Orwell quote is not directly attributed to him but summarised his views ....

" We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on those who wish us harm "

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Re: Society ?

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Re: Society ?

Post by Clovius Boofus » Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:44 pm

People have been banging on, about how society is broken, well before Aristotle.

I bet most on here were young adults or teenagers in the 1960s or 1970s. In those days, older folks blamed most of society's ills on Mods, Rockers, Hippies, Drugs, Glam Rock, Punk etc. Nowadays, people blame social media. Thing is, it was none of those things. A lot of it, just like back in the days before the internet, gaming or whatever, is down to bad parenting.

St. Ignatius: Give me a child until he is 7, and I will give you the man.

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