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Penalty run ups

Post by karatekid » Thu Oct 09, 2025 6:24 pm

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Leighton James doing a proper run up for a penalty.
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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu Oct 09, 2025 6:39 pm

That’s a proper run up. If it was up to me I’d not allow the stop start run ups or indeed a run up starting outside the area. The odds are already well in the attackers favour and basically allowing them to do what they want whilst a keeper has to stay touching the line makes it a tad unfair imo.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by ALP » Thu Oct 09, 2025 6:54 pm

Taffy was just a proper footballer. he had pace, grace, skill and was just an all in good man, oh, and a bloody good run up for a penalty.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Oct 09, 2025 6:57 pm

One of my first football international memories and still the kits I think of when someone first mentions England and Wales. As a six-seven year old it was confusing watching Taffy and Flynn playing for some foreign country (I knew Wales was part of the British empire, but not that it was an hour West by road).

If they ever brought back that Wales kit it would still be enough for me to cheer them on.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by steve1264b » Thu Oct 09, 2025 9:12 pm

Not as good as the 4th minute into injury time in the pouring rain against Torquay for a point late into the Orient season!
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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by dougcollins » Thu Oct 09, 2025 9:13 pm

He won that pen well did Taff.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Spijed » Thu Oct 09, 2025 9:25 pm

steve1264b wrote:
Thu Oct 09, 2025 9:12 pm
Not as good as the 4th minute into injury time in the pouring rain against Torquay for a point late into the Orient season!
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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Dressinggown » Thu Oct 09, 2025 9:40 pm

Only a few years ago there was a rule that the penalty taker had to take a continuous approach to the ball.

Obviously, that is no longer the case but the advantage should essentially lie with the penalty taker.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Oct 09, 2025 10:48 pm

Players these days are technically better hence the change in style

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by tarkys_ears » Fri Oct 10, 2025 12:50 am

It needs to be changed to a one step like in 5 a side.

If not, they need to clamp down on the ******* about up and down jogging and just have it a straight run... but then how would Ronaldo score after he's thrown himself down in the box?

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by hoskinsgoalatswansea » Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:05 am

Was Taffy left or right footed? I thought he used to take penalties with his left. I could very easily be wrong on this.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Oct 10, 2025 2:34 pm

I blame keepers for diving early, and making it easy for the penalty taker.
I'd prefer they follow the ball, if they don't commit then the penalty taker is practically shooting from a standing start and will struggle to get the power into the shot.
If they put the ball into the corner of the net, a keeper isn't going to save it anyway, so why not take a chance that he isn't going to hit the corner, and he isn't going to be able to hit it hard.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by dougcollins » Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:37 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Oct 09, 2025 10:48 pm
Players these days are technically better hence the change in style
No,it changed when keeperers were allowed to traverse between the posts - the taker can pretty much do what they please now.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by karatekid » Fri Oct 10, 2025 6:36 pm

Remember Bruce Grobbelaar and his wobbly legs. It worked .

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by dougcollins » Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:24 pm

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:05 am
Was Taffy left or right footed? I thought he used to take penalties with his left. I could very easily be wrong on this.
I recall Bobby Charlton remarking he was impressed how two-footed James was.

He also said he was surprised how few footballers were.
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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Roosterbooster » Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:37 pm

2 things I noticed there

No goalie gloves
And
The celebration doesn't take half an hour. Just a well done lads, let's get on with it

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:55 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Fri Oct 10, 2025 8:37 pm
2 things I noticed there

No goalie gloves
And
The celebration doesn't take half an hour. Just a well done lads, let's get on with it
Very few keepers wore gloves. A couple of years earlier Phil Parkes was invited onto the Big Match because he had started using gloves other than the standard loose cotton ones that were seen occasionally. He’s been sent them from America and wore them because the material was “kind of sticky”. It was the eighties before goalkeeping gloves started to become a regular thing.

Alan Shearer’s goal celebration was often remarked upon because he put his arm up and ran… before the Premier League started bringing in rakes of foreign stars it had been pretty normal to punch the air and jog back to the half way line, with a few handshakes.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Dressinggown » Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:15 pm

The best was Graham Alexander.

Took a few deep breaths and then approached gun barrel straight towards the ball.

Didn't bother about the keeper. Hit the ball at a certain point with his instep for direction.

Rarely missed.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Fri Oct 10, 2025 11:26 pm

Did Shilton ever save a penalty?

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by beeholeclaret » Fri Oct 10, 2025 11:49 pm

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:05 am
Was Taffy left or right footed? I thought he used to take penalties with his left. I could very easily be wrong on this.
Taffy was right footed when it came to penalty kicks and similarly with corners and free kicks.

When the ball was in open play he was able to use both feet as he dribbled / ran with the ball and many of his most devastating runs were on the left wing and he took the ball past the full back and centred from near the bye line with his left foot. He scored from outside the area with powerful drives with mainly his right foot but scored a good number with his left.

Amazing footballer and the best I saw playing for Clarets.
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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by Grimsdale » Sat Oct 11, 2025 7:10 am

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:
Fri Oct 10, 2025 11:26 pm
Did Shilton ever save a penalty?
Shilton was one of those keepers who usually waited until the kick was taken before committing which way to dive, which meant he would go the right way but not be able to save it unless the kick was weak or poorly placed. See the shootout in the 1990 WC semi final, went the right way every time but never really got close to saving any.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by dougcollins » Sat Oct 11, 2025 11:28 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2025 7:10 am
Shilton was one of those keepers who usually waited until the kick was taken before committing which way to dive, which meant he would go the right way but not be able to save it unless the kick was weak or poorly placed. See the shootout in the 1990 WC semi final, went the right way every time but never really got close to saving any.
He was always a percentage keeper to me, great at positioning himself in open play, but never the greatest shot-stopper.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by IanMcL » Sat Oct 11, 2025 11:33 am

Hibsclaret wrote:
Thu Oct 09, 2025 6:39 pm
That’s a proper run up. If it was up to me I’d not allow the stop start run ups or indeed a run up starting outside the area. The odds are already well in the attackers favour and basically allowing them to do what they want whilst a keeper has to stay touching the line makes it a tad unfair imo.
Well it's a penalty. It is not supposed to be fair. There was an infringement which affords an almost certain goal, as a result. That's why saves are unexpected.

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Oct 11, 2025 2:15 pm

hoskinsgoalatswansea wrote:
Fri Oct 10, 2025 1:05 am
Was Taffy left or right footed? I thought he used to take penalties with his left. I could very easily be wrong on this.
I’d say he was every bit as good with either foot but his right was his stronger (according to him).

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Re: Penalty run ups

Post by dougcollins » Sat Oct 11, 2025 4:13 pm

Dressinggown wrote:
Fri Oct 10, 2025 10:15 pm
The best was Graham Alexander.

Took a few deep breaths and then approached gun barrel straight towards the ball.

Didn't bother about the keeper. Hit the ball at a certain point with his instep for direction.

Rarely missed.
I remember one time when David James stared him out and he put it wide.

Like you say, a rare event.

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