Bid rejected for chris wood

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:38 pm

not sure this would be good for us...I mean, we dont know that he would settle in at a bigger club do we?

Celts · Post by **Celts** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:41 pm

I think he's crap. I wouldn't pay 20 quid for him. He's no better than the strikers we have and couldn't hit a barn door

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:43 pm

IanMcL wrote:Just a two bob player?

I got it, guess I must be the only one as old as you on here.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:46 pm

jedi_master wrote:He will end up signing for an undisclosed fee between 15-20m on deadline day after refusing to play for Leeds.

Calling it now.

Nah, we'll sign Shane Long on deadline day.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:55 pm

Celts wrote:I think he's crap. I wouldn't pay 20 quid for him. He's no better than the strikers we have and couldn't hit a barn door

he hit the barn door 28 times last year

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:03 pm

Certainly not crap, but not worth 20million either.
I'd like to see him sign, but there are other players out there, who are worth 20million, who would be a lot better acquisitions.

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:04 pm

we sold a proven young international centre half for similar money....I like Wood for around 14 million in current climate but for 20 plus I just dont see us paying that and hope we dont.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:14 pm

Starting for Leeds tonight.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:16 pm

Going nowhere then

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:55 pm

That's a relief.

occ-claret · Post by **occ-claret** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:00 pm

Leading scorer in championship and still people moan and say he is no good. Don't forget Leeds were not in the top 6 which makes his record better.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:04 pm

leeds fans on twitter suggesting he has downed tools. Apparently he was walking around the pitch and sulking all match. Plus if anyone was watching Gillette soccer special tonight you would have seen him miss two absolute sitters.
We want better for £20m

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:09 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Certainly not crap, but not worth 20million either.
I'd like to see him sign, but there are other players out there, who are worth 20million, who would be a lot better acquisitions.

Like who?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:leeds fans on twitter suggesting he has downed tools. Apparently he was walking around the pitch and sulking all match. Plus if anyone was watching Gillette soccer special tonight you would have seen him miss two absolute sitters.
We want better for £20m

Yes no way we would sign a player who looks to have downed tools is there!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:13 pm

I was actually talking about two of the worst misses you will probably see this season from a player we are linked to spending £20m on.

We can do a lot better for the money.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:20 pm

3putt wrote:
I don't get this "poor man's Sam Vokes" tag that some people are using.

I understand he is a similar player to Vokes, but he scored 27 goals in a an average Championship team last season. Sam scored 20 goals in his great season with a brilliant partner in Ings.

So how can he manage to be so poor and score 27 goals?

When Sam joined us he was already becoming an ordinary journeyman and look how he's developed.

KRBFC wrote

How many PL goals?

How many good seasons has Wood had in his career to date? I count 1 compared with Vokes' 3.

Leeds weren't an average side last year, they choked playoffs with 1 game to spare.

Wood played upfront on his own in a team built around him. As you say, Vokes had to scrap for goals with Ings/Gray next to him, stealing them.

HOW MANY PL GOALS? At the moment he is a Championship player. If he'd scored 27 goals in the Prem we would need to add another £80 million to our bid.

If you take away Wood's prolific goal scoring, Leeds were an extremely average team last season.

Vokes didn't have to scrap in his tremendous season alongside Ings, he benefited from having a great striking partner scoring 20 goals along the way.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:13 am

Tall Paul wrote:Like who?

Like Florian Andone

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:59 am

Been offered a new 3 year contract by dirty leeds, now we will see whether he wants the move or not.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:I was actually talking about two of the worst misses you will probably see this season from a player we are linked to spending £20m on.

We can do a lot better for the money.

Perhaps he didn't want to score. He might have thought it better to show how much he has downed his tools by missing sitters.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:21 pm

Nixon reporting that we have NOT given up on him. Says next few days could be interesting.

Young_Claret_91 · Post by **Young_Claret_91** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:25 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Nah, we'll sign Shane Long on deadline day.

We'll sign both, and lose Barnes

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:25 pm

Andone please.

Masham Ale · Post by **Masham Ale** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:52 pm

IanMcL wrote:Just a two bob player?

Think that's passed a few by!

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:08 pm

Someone asked which way he sees it going and he replied Burnley

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:11 pm

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mohamed69 · Post by **mohamed69** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:12 pm

happyclaret17 wrote:we sold a proven young international centre half for similar money....I like Wood for around 14 million in current climate but for 20 plus I just dont see us paying that and hope we dont.

Who?!

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UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:18 pm

How to make a slow front line even slower.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:27 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:How to make a slow front line even slower.

Is that relevant if we play with a five man midfield?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:34 pm

How to make a slow team even slower.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:37 pm

Must be tough trying to find things to constantly whinge at!

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:38 pm

Young_Claret_91 wrote:We'll sign both, and lose Barnes

That would be good business.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:49 pm

Spijed wrote:Is that relevant if we play with a five man midfield?

Or the fact that he does have speed

Jambounchained · Post by **Jambounchained** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:49 pm

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Barnes go in this window

BigChaCha · Post by **BigChaCha** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:50 pm

How to make a slow front line even slower

If we slow it down to the likes of a Shearer/Sutton partnership I will be very happy

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:59 pm

Jambounchained wrote:I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Barnes go in this window

I can kind of see your logic, but I hope not. He has a unique ability to wind up about every opposition player in the Premier League. He plays on the edge but boy does he rattle defences unlike any of our other players and we need that edge sometimes.

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:01 pm

Excellent signing if we can get him for £15 million. That's what Hogan and and Kodjia went for and they're not as good.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:03 pm

Not ideal but if the manager wants him then I'll trust his judgement - I think he's earned it.

Not sure he's THAT slow, either...

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:04 pm

Hopefully it's just bluster. He isn't what we need.

Its like swapping Andre Gray for Chris Wood plus cash. A horrendous deal in the cold light of day.

Jambounchained · Post by **Jambounchained** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:04 pm

ExistentialWanderer wrote:I can kind of see your logic, but I hope not. He has a unique ability to wind up about every opposition player in the Premier League. He plays on the edge but boy does he rattle defences unlike any of our other players and we need that edge sometimes.

Don’t get me wrong I like him.

I can see him struggling to fit in a bit this season, but that being said even if we only bring in one striker this window it will only leave us with Vokes, Barnes, New and the pretty much untried Agyei.

If we go for say Wood and Andone then yeah, I think he might go.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:07 pm

Jambounchained wrote:Don’t get me wrong I like him.

I can see him struggling to fit in a bit this season, but that being said even if we only bring in one striker this window it will only leave us with Vokes, Barnes, New and the pretty much untried Agyei.

If we go for say Wood and Andone then yeah, I think he might go.

Yeah. I understand your point. One striker comes in I'd keep Barnes. If Wood and Andone come in, Barnes may be pushed out even off the bench. So it'd only be fair to let him look elsewhere, even if only on loan. Just depends who comes in. I'd send Agyei out on loan regardless, he needs proper game time and he won't get it with us yet.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:26 pm

Right_winger wrote:Hopefully it's just bluster. He isn't what we need.

Its like swapping Andre Gray for Chris Wood plus cash. A horrendous deal in the cold light of day.

How many times does it need spelling out that you can`t compare the prices of players in long term contracts and those with a year left in their contact who can start to negotiate their free transfer in 4 months time on 1st January ?

Gray and Keane were both in this position and we still made £30m plus profit on them....aswell as both playing an integral part of our success in the last 2 to 3 years and helping secure our financial stability for many many years to come.

What exactly would you have done different with Gray or Keane ?.....they both turned down the best contracts we have offered any players in the history of the club.

It`s an easy job criticising everything the club does in the transfer market....lot harder coming up with an alternative.

It`s fine to have a different opinion on players etc but the constant sniping at the club is so tedious when you can`t put forward any rationale alternatives or options they had - especially with the Keane and Gray sales

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:31 pm

Most Premier League clubs have 4/5 strikers so if we bought Chris Wood and Shane Long that's what we would have when you add in Sam Vokes and Ashley Barnes and Jon Walters is our /5 striker.
So why would we let Barnes go?

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:40 pm

still cant understand all the fuss over a 57 year old goalkeeper playing up front.

Id keep Barnes hes got that grit needed

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:57 pm

TVC15 wrote:How many times does it need spelling out that you can`t compare the prices of players in long term contracts and those with a year left in their contact who can start to negotiate their free transfer in 4 months time on 1st January ?

Gray and Keane were both in this position and we still made £30m plus profit on them....aswell as both playing an integral part of our success in the last 2 to 3 years and helping secure our financial stability for many many years to come.

What exactly would you have done different with Gray or Keane ?.....they both turned down the best contracts we have offered any players in the history of the club.

It`s an easy job criticising everything the club does in the transfer market....lot harder coming up with an alternative.

It`s fine to have a different opinion on players etc but the constant sniping at the club is so tedious when you can`t put forward any rationale alternatives or options they had - especially with the Keane and Gray sales

Where's the bit criticising the club? I mearly expressed an opinion. Regardless if Gray had a year left on his contract if we were to have done a swap deal with Wood plus cash it would have been a terrible deal.

I can't profess to have seen an extensive amount of Chris play but what i have seen hasn't been great. Yes he can score goals in the championship at a club slinging balls into the box for him being a lone striker great, the premier league is different gravy.

Plus we are sorely lacking in pace we do not need another target man especially one who isn't as good as the one we've already got.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:51 pm

Right_winger wrote:Where's the bit criticising the club? I mearly expressed an opinion. Regardless if Gray had a year left on his contract if we were to have done a swap deal with Wood plus cash it would have been a terrible deal.

I can't profess to have seen an extensive amount of Chris play but what i have seen hasn't been great. Yes he can score goals in the championship at a club slinging balls into the box for him being a lone striker great, the premier league is different gravy.

Plus we are sorely lacking in pace we do not need another target man especially one who isn't as good as the one we've already got.

Mmmm....when I`m seeing phrases like horrendous deal for the club then I normal equate that to criticism. Fair enough if you are not criticising them.

If that`s the case what are you saying ?

Saying "regardless if Gray had a year left on his contract" does not make any sense. The fact that he a year left on his contract is the key point...that`s why we "only" got £18.5m and the longer contract of Wood is why Leeds want so much for him. You cannot compare the prices of both players.

Sigurdson just went for £45m ; Arnoutavic for nearly £30m both because they were in long term contracts. Yet Alexis Sanches who was in same position as Keane and Gray they are talking £40m when he is clearly a much better player than both and would be nearer to £90m or £100m if he was in a long term contract.

Personally not seen enough of Wood to know whether he is worth this amount of money - it seems a lot from what I have seen of him and i would also prefer us to buy pace. But a centre forward who scored 30 goals in Championship and also has pace - not sure their is anyone about. Assombolonga maybe but we got outbid.

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:12 pm

If Dyche wants Wood then that will do for me.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:36 pm

From one football app....

There was another twist, however, as the Daily Star claim that Wood will reject the new contract in favour of sealing a move to Burnley.

It’s all very confusing but one way or another, it looks like Wood’s future will be resolved in the next few days.

http://1.ftb.al/zNTc/0WmcVK9yIF

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:48 pm

It's all about player power these days and if Woods wants to be a claret, he will be

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:55 pm

We've seen the improvement of Sam under the Dyche tutelage, I don't see any reason for it to be any different for Wood. He's not quickest but if he can do this.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiZs8oOzxNU