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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Cheshireclaret » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:12 pm

Goalkeeper wrote:
Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:07 pm
At times, his first touch is poor. He obviously isn't physical, given his stature. He is at very best a top 6 Championship player, he will sink without trace in the Premier League.
You’re not watching the same player as me then. His ability to control a ball, especially when running with it - is breath taking. His low centre of gravity is a joy to behold, so either Marcus Edwards has done something to upset you, or you’re loving on another planet to me!
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by BigGaz » Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:48 am

I mentioned earlier in the week that one of the misgivings I have about him is that he isn't much of a fighter. If he loses the ball he doesn't like he wants to win it straight back.

He is talented though and there's no one will else In the league I'd rather have in the league running at a defence when he's on it. Over the past few games he hasn't looked like he wants to run at his man, which is his main strength, and was largely gaffered by 36 year old Craig Forsyth.

Don't know if it's confidence or motivation or what but we need to get him back in the game and trying to run at people because he doesn't offer a right lot else. It's no surprise to me that he hasn't played well these last few games and we've gone back to struggling to make chances.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Anonymous Claret » Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:03 am

BigGaz wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:48 am


Don't know if it's confidence or motivation.

Or tiredness?

He hadn't played much before arriving here and the Championship is very demanding with lots of games within a short period of time. I am hoping that he will be back to his best on Friday.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Ampth7 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:08 am

Interestingly against Norwich as soon as Edwards got the ball in the final third, he immediately had 3 opponents covering his 2 main options of taking on the full back or cutting in on his stronger foot. This definitely nullified him a fair bit, however this should have allowed others more space and time on the ball which Hannibal took advantage of on several occasions.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 am

Jeez.....undefeated in god knows how long..playing some cracking football at times...a town not much bigger than Trumpton on the verge of a return to the best league in the world..club and town buzzing...

and people have to post sh1te like that of "goalkeeper".
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Andreshotboots » Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:10 am

I think he'll have much more space against the Blades and therefore be much more of a threat.

Its looking like it's going to be a must win for them so they'll have to take some risks and probably leave players in advanced positions.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:55 am

I like Edwards, but assuming we go up not sure how much use he'll be next season when its going to be a backs to the wall job.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Goliath » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:02 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:55 am
I like Edwards, but assuming we go up not sure how much use he'll be next season when its going to be a backs to the wall job.
You'd think we'd use him as an impact sub occasionally. Probably depends if he's a sulker or not as to whether that's a realistic option.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Ric_C » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:02 am

He's been poor the last two games. But as I've mentioned before, the opposition are so worried about him, it is no coincidence it has given Pires and Anthony more space to work in. As seen again on friday night.
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Clive 1960 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:16 am

Class players attract flies i we used to say meaning players doubling up on you, but like other posters have said will free up space for others to exploit...

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by basil6345789 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:47 pm

In February I was speaking with in The Algarve a Portuguese man from Porto but a big fan overall. He said that "Edwards plays well for about 5 games then loses interest - a bit like Rashford but he is good". He also said that Amorin will end up managing Benfica, his number one club from childhood through.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Goalkeeper » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:12 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:09 am
Jeez.....undefeated in god knows how long..playing some cracking football at times...a town not much bigger than Trumpton on the verge of a return to the best league in the world..club and town buzzing...

and people have to post sh1te like that of "goalkeeper".
Please tell me which part of my post isn't true. I didn't see any Premier league clubs trying to sign him. There is a reason for this.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by ClaretAndBlue94 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:40 am

If we are promoted, our attacking players may have much more freedom to play as defenders will not be doubling/tripling up. Koleosho looked excellent in PL when allowed time on the ball

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Apr 14, 2025 9:52 am

If you cannot see the direct correlation between the addition & inclusion of Edwards into the team and the margins of our games swinging to wins, then I don't know what to tell you...

As stated earlier in the season, the system was/is absolutely fine; we were creating plenty of 1 vs 1 matchups and getting a spare man free on occasion; we just didn't have enough quality options in the final third to execute properly.

Now that we do and Edwards, is being heavily marked/pressed, which is opening the space up for other players to operate in.
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by ecc » Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:16 am

I thought he defended well on Friday in his own way. He's not a defender but he closed down and helped the team.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by NL Claret » Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:56 am

basil6345789 wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:47 pm
In February I was speaking with in The Algarve a Portuguese man from Porto but a big fan overall. He said that "Edwards plays well for about 5 games then loses interest - a bit like Rashford but he is good". He also said that Amorin will end up managing Benfica, his number one club from childhood through.
I’d personally file that under what the Fulham and Bournemouth said about Parker, what Stoke fans said about Laurent and Huddersfield fans about Arfield.
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by warksclaret » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:29 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:56 am
I’d personally file that under what the Fulham and Bournemouth said about Parker, what Stoke fans said about Laurent and Huddersfield fans about Arfield.
Always amazed how much trust some fans place in what a total stranger has said about one of our players

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by NL Claret » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:31 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:29 pm
Always amazed how much trust some fans place in what a total stranger has said about one of our players
Exactly, Edwards put in a good shift on Friday night, certainly looked interested,

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:46 pm

You don't have to be a genius to see what Edwards brings to the table. With some players you don't miss them until they're not in the team and I think Edwards fits that bill nicely.

Prior to his arrival we were trying various options on the opposite wing to Anthony (Sarmiento, Koleosho, Foster, and Hannibal at the very least). None of them caused the opposition any real problems in the final third so we were relatively easy to defend against. If they stopped Anthony, they stopped us.

Now we look a different beast. We have two wingers that can cause problems. Teams are allowing Anthony more space because they're worried about Edwards, and he's punishing them. Take Edwards away and we revert back to what we were seeing earlier in the season. I know which I prefer.

It's the same with Brownhill. There are some who don't rate him that highly. Personally, I always think we're much better with him in the starting 11. He might not always appear to be having a direct impact on the game, but he usually is. His running and positional play are a huge factor in getting us up the pitch. Take him away and we've tended to look a bit aimless at times.
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:05 pm

I wish he could form some sort of partnership with Roberts. As good as Roberts/Anthony were there is nothing between Roberts/Edwards. I’ve watched Fridays match again this morning and whilst we are getting it wide at every opportunity there were a few times when Roberts passed infield with Edwards wide open, from a couple of them Cullen immediately switched it to Edwards who by then had been covered.
Roberts has also stopped overlapping him and isn’t the player he was before Edwards arrival.
Sit down with the videos and please sort it guys.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by basil6345789 » Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:16 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:29 pm
Always amazed how much trust some fans place in what a total stranger has said about one of our players
Simply conveying what a man who's close to it in Portugal said - he had no axe to grind

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Bosscat » Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:53 pm

Our old mate Tim Sherwood likes him.
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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by dibraidio » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:24 am

If we go up I'd have no hesitation in paying the reported 12m euros for him. I'd be surprised if we could get another winger of the same quality for that money. Definitely seems to have made the difference between not losing and winning more often than not.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:35 am

In recent years we have had obligations to buy where in hindsight we wished we hadn’t.

Edwards is the opposite. An obligation (on both sides) if we go up that suits us perfectly. I cannot see us letting him go anywhere else. Opponents will target us down that side of course due to the defensive weakness but we will have to guard against it, not a reason not to play him.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:48 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:05 pm
I wish he could form some sort of partnership with Roberts. As good as Roberts/Anthony were there is nothing between Roberts/Edwards. I’ve watched Fridays match again this morning and whilst we are getting it wide at every opportunity there were a few times when Roberts passed infield with Edwards wide open, from a couple of them Cullen immediately switched it to Edwards who by then had been covered.
Roberts has also stopped overlapping him and isn’t the player he was before Edwards arrival.
Sit down with the videos and please sort it guys.
I'm not surprised Roberts has given up with the overlapping runs, more often than not he makes the effort and then doesn't get the ball played to him even when he's wide open.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:51 am

jlup1980 wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:46 pm
You don't have to be a genius to see what Edwards brings to the table. With some players you don't miss them until they're not in the team and I think Edwards fits that bill nicely.

Prior to his arrival we were trying various options on the opposite wing to Anthony (Sarmiento, Koleosho, Foster, and Hannibal at the very least). None of them caused the opposition any real problems in the final third so we were relatively easy to defend against. If they stopped Anthony, they stopped us.

Now we look a different beast. We have two wingers that can cause problems. Teams are allowing Anthony more space because they're worried about Edwards, and he's punishing them. Take Edwards away and we revert back to what we were seeing earlier in the season. I know which I prefer.

It's the same with Brownhill. There are some who don't rate him that highly. Personally, I always think we're much better with him in the starting 11. He might not always appear to be having a direct impact on the game, but he usually is. His running and positional play are a huge factor in getting us up the pitch. Take him away and we've tended to look a bit aimless at times.
Fully agree with you there

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by fatboy47 » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:51 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:48 am
I'm not surprised Roberts has given up with the overlapping runs, more often than not he makes the effort and then doesn't get the ball played to him even when he's wide open.
So Roberts sulking now is he? 🤣

Nothing to do with the manager's set-up and tactics ? 🤣

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by dibraidio » Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:53 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:48 am
I'm not surprised Roberts has given up with the overlapping runs, more often than not he makes the effort and then doesn't get the ball played to him even when he's wide open.
Brownhill goes down that side quite often too. If Roberts makes the run and draws a defender surely that's still a useful run?

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Goliath » Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:55 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:05 pm
I wish he could form some sort of partnership with Roberts. As good as Roberts/Anthony were there is nothing between Roberts/Edwards. I’ve watched Fridays match again this morning and whilst we are getting it wide at every opportunity there were a few times when Roberts passed infield with Edwards wide open, from a couple of them Cullen immediately switched it to Edwards who by then had been covered.
Roberts has also stopped overlapping him and isn’t the player he was before Edwards arrival.
Sit down with the videos and please sort it guys.
But since we moved Anthony to the left we've had Pires noticeably bombing on and getting past him a lot more. I think it's possibly tactical that we are using Roberts a bit more for control and Pires to bomb on. We probably want to get Edwards 1 v 1 so don't want Roberts to come in and crowd the area as much.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:14 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:51 am
So Roberts sulking now is he? 🤣

Nothing to do with the manager's set-up and tactics ? 🤣
Read into it what you like, just saying what I see!

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Tue Apr 15, 2025 11:15 am

dibraidio wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 9:53 am
Brownhill goes down that side quite often too. If Roberts makes the run and draws a defender surely that's still a useful run?
Yeah, I agree with that.

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Re: Marcus Edwards

Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Apr 15, 2025 1:19 pm

Goliath wrote:
Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:55 am
But since we moved Anthony to the left we've had Pires noticeably bombing on and getting past him a lot more. I think it's possibly tactical that we are using Roberts a bit more for control and Pires to bomb on. We probably want to get Edwards 1 v 1 so don't want Roberts to come in and crowd the area as much.
Fair point. I’d wondered that myself.

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