Andrew Robertson betting odds...

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:15 pm

I'm amazed at the ability of people to read that off Nixons tweets.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:25 pm

I thing one thing that's become obvious over a number of years is that Burnley are an incredibly difficult club to do business with.
If that's a good thing or a bad thing depends on your interpretation.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:28 pm

SGr wrote:Yeah I'm all for conducting business properly and not getting ripped off but we take it too far, and it damages us

Imagine how many decent players we end up losing out on

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:30 pm

Yeah, imagine.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:31 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Imagine how many decent players we end up losing out on

Have we lost out on many?

I can't recollect many situations in recent seasons where we've lost out because we've not been willing to pay an extra million or so.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:34 pm

Just glad some on here aren't doing our negotiating.We would soon have no money left.You want £10m for a player we will give you £12m it's only a couple of million.To Think people were earlier moaning about us paying £10m and £13m for Hendrick and Brady.Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:20 pm

Jimscho wrote:Just glad some on here aren't doing our negotiating.We would soon have no money left.You want £10m for a player we will give you £12m it's only a couple of million.To Think people were earlier moaning about us paying £10m and £13m for Hendrick and Brady.Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Yep you are right. We would only have £95 million of last years Premier League revenue left.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:26 pm

So if we'd paid what Derby asked for Hendrick first time out - and if we paid whatever Norwich's first request was - and if we'd paid the extra million or so for Grosicki above what had already been agreed - and if we'd paid Robertson's asking price at Hull City's request - I have two questions.

1. How much better off would our squad and league position be now?
2. Would it put us in the best position to get players at good prices in future?

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:46 pm

Steddyman wrote:Yep you are right. We would only have £95 million of last years Premier League revenue left.

Seeing as we got £101m from the Prem last year what have you spent £6m on and what is the point of your comment.Do you think we should just pay whatever someone asks for like a number of people on here.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:48 pm

Jimscho wrote:Just glad some on here aren't doing our negotiating.We would soon have no money left.You want £10m for a player we will give you £12m it's only a couple of million.

And yet, if our players had turned up for our pat two games, that "only a couple of million" would already have been taken care of. Blot on a fabulous season and achievement for me that could have made a difference in the transfer market

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:54 pm

I wonder if the bonus payments are linked to survival as opposed to league position. Hopefully both and not just the former. A share of the league placing money might provide that further incentive.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:57 pm

NRC wrote:And yet, if our players had turned up for our pat two games, that "only a couple of million" would already have been taken care of. Blot on a fabulous season and achievement for me that could have made a difference in the transfer market

If our players hadn't turned up for some of our earlier home games that "only a couple of million"would have been needed in the championship.Its all ifs and buts.Just because we have earned a lot of money this last 2 years doesn't mean we should be frivolous with it.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:07 pm

@DCWat, if i were the corporate finance guy that's exactly what I'd be doing - a two-tier structure. And if we survived this coming season i would make it one tier, dropping premier league survival and making it only league position.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:16 pm

We won't be held to ransom and rightly so.

We can't be throwing money around to force moves through, we will polish up the leftovers and mis fits.

It's worked well so far, nothing has changed, 17th is still the aim.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:39 pm

I believe the players staying up bonus was linked to league position in that they received a % of the extra cash pot earned for each place higher in the league.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:32 pm

Watford now interested after our talks "Stall"

Well done lads. :/

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:15 pm

According to Nicko, the Keane situation is not helping things.....

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:18 pm

Spijed wrote:According to Nicko, the Keane situation is not helping things.....

Why on earth would that make a difference?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:23 pm

In reply to someone asking if he had any Burnley news he said:

"Get the feeling the Keane thing dragging on isn't doing u any favours."

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/stat ... 0198580225" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:30 pm

Is the "Keane thing" dragging on at all?

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:45 pm

Jimscho wrote:Seeing as we got £101m from the Prem last year what have you spent £6m on and what is the point of your comment.Do you think we should just pay whatever someone asks for like a number of people on here.

Try again:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/total-pri ... hed-16th-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:20 am

MACCA wrote: It's worked well so far, nothing has changed, 17th is still the aim.

I hope not! We finished 16th, so 17th would be a backwards step

I get what you mean though.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:33 am

Spijed wrote:According to Nicko, the Keane situation is not helping things.....

Obvioulsly need the money from his transfer to fund incomings because we're broke

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:37 am

claretspice wrote:Why on earth would that make a difference?

Makes about as much sense of our supposed trepidation at the prospect of a Tribunal setting the Taylor transfer fee.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:38 am

Steddyman wrote:Try again:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/total-pri ... hed-16th-4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Think the figure on your link is wrong.The actual figure was £101,237,554.if you put that figure in the search on here you will see there was a thread discussing it.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:19 am

Jimscho wrote:Think the figure on your link is wrong.The actual figure was £101,237,554.if you put that figure in the search on here you will see there was a thread discussing it.

Surprised to see Bournemouth getting over £16m more than us - that will give them a lot of clout if we are going for the same players.
Might also pay for Defoe and Terry's wages.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:22 am

Nixon: Watford now in race for Andy Robertson at Hull. Burnley been haggling over fee and looking elsewhere. More in paper.

So this doesn't look like something to do with the Keane deal, it looks like us fannying around over a mil or two. Inevitably I imagine because we're trying to chuck in a load of add ons.

Still, guess I don't care about us missing out on the best left back in the country outside the Premier League for the sake of a couple of million. Because at least we're doing it #TheRightWay

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:41 am

It's simple really, if you want players signed early for pre-season you don't haggle over an extra £1 million. It's a fine strategy when you are selling players but not when you are buying them in a sellers market.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:45 am

I'd be surprised if he didn't go to Watford if they're interested with the Marco Silva link.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:53 am

I'd be pretty disappointed if we didn't sign one of Taylor or Roberston over a 1 or 2 million.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:02 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:I'd be pretty disappointed if we didn't sign one of Taylor or Roberston over a 1 or 2 million.

I wouldn't because hardly anybody knows whether Taylor or Robertson really want to come here or are they waiting for better offers. I'd be disappointed if it emerged that taylor or Robertson expressly stated that there wanted to come here & for whatever reason it didn't happen.

BFC123 · Post by **BFC123** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:07 pm

Not sure I believe the Watford links. Nixon is known to have worked with agents in the past. I think he's putting the story out there to make Burnley hurry up. He even says in the article that Robertson wants to join us. Link to a former manager is an obvious one.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:14 pm

Agents are well known to create interest in their clients to hurry deals through, surely wages can't be an issue these days get on with it Burnley.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:32 pm

Both Taylor and Robertson could probably stay where they live at present but would probably have to move
if going to Watford or elsewhere not that would necessarily be a deal breaker.
Robertson or his agent might be trying to 'chivvy' Liverpool into making a bid
as that is his preferred option, I believe.

However if the case is we're hanging on and not happy about the price (8m, was it?)
then it does seem a little silly especially as we've been interested in Robertson for a while now.

Wouldn't be happy if he went to Watford.
Most would see that as us losing out on one of our prime targets and to a probable
competitor in terms of possible bottom six candidates.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:14 pm

Lets hope we can get this wrapped up asap because it would be a shame to miss out

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:30 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Lets hope we can get this wrapped up asap because it would be a shame to miss out

If Dyche wants him he's coming no doubt about it.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:39 pm

bartons baggage wrote:If Dyche wants him he's coming no doubt about it.

I'm sure he'll enjoy lining up alongside Stephens, Pritchard, Dorrans and his January window self then next season

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:51 pm

bartons baggage wrote:If Dyche wants him he's coming no doubt about it.

I dunno about that i would of thought this deal would of been wrapped up now and moving swiftly on to the next target. Now the vultures have s
Got wind about it this deal could collapse if were not carefull

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:14 pm

Signing tomorrow

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:15 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Signing tomorrow

Who for watford

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:28 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Signing tomorrow

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:32 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:

Tomorrow never comes

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:49 pm

Steddyman wrote:It's simple really, if you want players signed early for pre-season you don't haggle over an extra £1 million. It's a fine strategy when you are selling players but not when you are buying them in a sellers market.

How much are the actual figures? I didn't realise they were public.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:00 pm

I wish I could throw away a couple of million quid in the time it takes to sneeze.
Have some on here ever wondered why we are debt free and yet still spent north of £30M last season, and that could have been £40m+ had we landed Robertson in January?
And that's before we start talking about the wages involved.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:07 pm

Media reporting Hull want £8m but our club believe that's too much. IF that turns out to be correct it would be frustrating.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:09 pm

taio wrote:Media reporting Hull want £8m but our club believe that's too much. IF that turns out to be correct it would be frustrating.

Hes only got 12 months left on his contract so we probably think 5 mil will be more suited

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:15 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:Hes only got 12 months left on his contract so we probably think 5 mil will be more suited

Then we'll have no chance of getting him.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:16 pm

Considering we were prepared to shell out £10m for Robertson in January, I'd be extremely disappointed if we couldn't manage £8m for him now.

That isn't silly money at all IMO. He's a fantastic age and would come with good experience.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:40 pm

ksrclaret wrote:Considering we were prepared to shell out £10m for Robertson in January, I'd be extremely disappointed if we couldn't manage £8m for him now.

That isn't silly money at all IMO. He's a fantastic age and would come with good experience.

Always a danger in taking media price quotations at face value, but you'd imagine the Hull local rag is in the right ball park with its figures and it makes us look a bit small fry, frankly.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:45 pm

Still no odds being given for Charlie Taylor on Oddschecker to be going anywhere

So maybe it's sixth time lucky for lancasterclaret and he is signing for us tomorrow