Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[ClaretFelix]

L’Equippe saying we are making moves alongside two other clubs for Arnaud Nordin

From the obligatory YT clips he has the look of a Benson type player, really explosive over the first 10 yards to create space for the cross and possibly more two footed

[Firthy]

Realistically with Adams though, where is the potential sell on value?

There isn't one

Does seem a strange choice

Strange choice as a target or to make a rumour up about??

[Lancasterclaret]

Strange choice as a target or to make a rumour up about??

Strange choice as a target, unless he's cheap

[RVclaret]

Article from Andy Jones in the Athletic today on current state of play with our transfer window

https://theathletic.com/4605830/2023/06 ... transfers/

- new bid for Verbruggen imminent
- far apart on valuations with Sunderland for Jack Clarke
- highly unlikely to spend over 20m on one player
- no update on Maatsen aside from the player would like another loan
- interest in the keeper Vigouroux

[Firthy]

Strange choice as a target, unless he's cheap

Only strange if the rumour is true

[AGENT_CLARET]

Article from Andy Jones in the Athletic today on current state of play with our transfer window

https://theathletic.com/4605830/2023/06 ... transfers/

- new bid for Verbruggen imminent
- far apart on valuations with Sunderland for Jack Clarke
- highly unlikely to spend over 20m on one player
- no update on Maatsen aside from the player would like another loan
- interest in the keeper Vigouroux

I think we'll bring Tella in for around 20/25 million with a lot of add ons included

[Lancasterclaret]

Only strange if the rumour is true

There is that

And this is the "hey lads, how about we make a thread for all those people who believe everything they read online so they can share that with all of us"

[RVclaret]

I think we'll bring Tella in for around 20/25 million with a lot of add ons included

I would honestly be very surprised if we paid a penny over 15m.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I would honestly be very surprised if we paid a penny over 15m.

In this country 15 million buys you nothing, that's why we need to look abroad, but I fully believe Tella will be a Claret soon

[123EasyasBFC]

The interesting thing about Adams is that even though Saints had a few foreign forwards that took a lot of the limelight it was still Adams who scored or assisted in 4 of their 6 Premier League wins (he was out injured for one). He isn’t one of those strikers who doesn’t score at that level, as sadly Jay now can be.

On that subject the stats of Onuachu are interesting - big money signing from Genk, virtually a goal a game in the first half of the season for them, zero for Saints in the second half. One to ponder if Tresor remains a target. A very different league to try to get space in the final third and score or create. If we do sign Tresor, we will need to be patient, something that based on the above discussion is in short supply.

Yeah I’m not sold on spending 20mil on tresor

[123EasyasBFC]

Article from Andy Jones in the Athletic today on current state of play with our transfer window

https://theathletic.com/4605830/2023/06 ... transfers/

- new bid for Verbruggen imminent
- far apart on valuations with Sunderland for Jack Clarke
- highly unlikely to spend over 20m on one player
- no update on Maatsen aside from the player would like another loan
- interest in the keeper Vigouroux

Is that too far apart on valuation for Clarke or not too far apart

[RVclaret]

Is that too far apart on valuation for Clarke or not too far apart

Too far at this stage it says

[jojomk1]

Realistically with Adams though, where is the potential sell on value?

There isn't one

Does seem a strange choice

He is 26
If we get him at a reasonable price and turn him around there is certainly potential sell on value
VK will know best

[Anthonini]

Yeah I’m not sold on spending 20mil on tresor

The guy just broke the assist record with 24 assists. That's madness, he's a gem, should do even better than Benson who was a bench player in the JPL. Besides that he's perfectly fit for Kompany's style of football. Can play as a winger or a playmaker.

[northeastclaret]

Disappointed and surprised that with the transfer window opening today, we don’t seem to have anything imminent with several months of activity already taken place on trying to line up
transfers.

It’s not a criticism, because I know it’s tough as the Athletic says, but with VK saying it’s been a real advantage to plan early after securing promotion, I was expecting more encouraging news by now.

[Cleveleys_claret]

We don't have to look at the sell on value of every player we buy

[taio]

Disappointed and surprised that with the transfer window opening today, we don’t seem to have anything imminent with several months of activity already taken place on trying to line up
transfers.

It’s not a criticism, because I know it’s tough as the Athletic says, but with VK saying it’s been a real advantage to plan early after securing promotion, I was expecting more encouraging news by now.

I presume this is tongue in cheek

[Big Vinny K]

Disappointed and surprised that with the transfer window opening today, we don’t seem to have anything imminent with several months of activity already taken place on trying to line up
transfers.

It’s not a criticism, because I know it’s tough as the Athletic says, but with VK saying it’s been a real advantage to plan early after securing promotion, I was expecting more encouraging news by now.

It’s positive that you gave them the first hour of the day to buck their ideas up.
Unfortunately they failed dismally

[warksclaret]

Will Norris just signed 3 year deal at Portsmouth, who claim he will have the No 1 shirt

[Lancasterclaret]

We don't have to look at the sell on value of every player we buy

I get that 100%, but then you want someone who can do the job required ala Barnes/Jay

I don't mind Adams, but it doesn't appear to hit the categories we are aiming for

ie - sell on potential or can add to our team

Especially at the price being quoted

[jedi_master]

Adams is not the profile of player (in age or type) that I expected us to be interested in. I would personally be underwhelmed by him, but the manager has proven he knows best. Maybe he wants a physical option there as a priority and that was the main reason Barnes was let go?

[daveisaclaret]

Adams is less than a year older than Benson

[RicardoMontalban]

Disappointed and surprised that with the transfer window opening today, we don’t seem to have anything imminent with several months of activity already taken place on trying to line up
transfers.

It’s not a criticism, because I know it’s tough as the Athletic says, but with VK saying it’s been a real advantage to plan early after securing promotion, I was expecting more encouraging news by now.

That’s the spirit!

[123EasyasBFC]

The guy just broke the assist record with 24 assists. That's madness, he's a gem, should do even better than Benson who was a bench player in the JPL. Besides that he's perfectly fit for Kompany's style of football. Can play as a winger or a playmaker.

No doubting stats wise 24 assists is great, but assist stats can be very misleading, barnes had 2 assists first two games of season from two miss controls

[dermotdermot]

We tried to sign Adam’s before but he chose to go elsewhere. I always think thats a bad omen.

[ervi34]

No doubting stats wise 24 assists is great, but assist stats can be very misleading, barnes had 2 assists first two games of season from two miss controls

It can be misleading if someone has 5 or 6 assists but we are talking about 20+ here. That's unreal.

[northeastclaret]

It’s positive that you gave them the first hour of the day to buck their ideas up.
Unfortunately they failed dismally

The usual smart arse comments that miss the point. I was talking about the news about imminent transfers being less favourable, not expecting announcements today , although that would be great.

Several days ago , comments were that Clarke was very close , and the new keeper etc etc , but what we now are hearing today as the window opens is that these moves are not close and nothing is imminent as far as we know.

[jedi_master]

I don't think it's mentioned further up (whether that means Andy Jones has updated his Athletic story, I am not sure), but The Athletic article today also says that active discussions are now in their early stages with Southampton over Nathan Tella and whilst the price was always expected to be a sticking point 'the hope is a compromise on valuations can be found'.

It also says that Muric may be sold after we sign Verbruggen and that Churlinov is likely to go to Schalke on loan after he gets over his illness.

[arise_sir_charge]

No doubting stats wise 24 assists is great, but assist stats can be very misleading, barnes had 2 assists first two games of season from two miss controls

If Tresor can execute 24 miss-controls that lead to goals he will do for me.

[warksclaret]

Che Adams will be a good striker , even in the PL for the right club ie Sheff Utd or Luton, however our current crop is Jay, Foster, Obefami-none of these will torment PL defenders though of course we all hope Foster is on an upward trajectory. The new signing forward needs to be a little special, particularly if we dont get Tella back, who won us endless points this season from his match winning goals

[Culmclaret]

On Tella, Southampton have to be realistic. Let’s face it, if the roles were reversed we would have zero expectations of keeping him.

[Big Vinny K]

Several days ago , comments were that Clarke was very close , and the new keeper etc etc , but what we now are hearing today as the window opens is that these moves are not close and nothing is imminent as far as we know.

Maybe try and get a bit of balance into your expectations then eh if you don’t want posters reacting to your comments ?

Don’t believe media reports saying things are very close…..

Where have you heard today that moves are not close and nothing is imminent ? If it’s media outlets or this message board then again no reason to take it as fact.

All we have to go off is that the VK and the club did not hang about last season so it’s a pretty reasonable assumption that we won’t hang about in this window either.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Disappointed and surprised that with the transfer window opening today, we don’t seem to have anything imminent with several months of activity already taken place on trying to line up
transfers.

It’s not a criticism, because I know it’s tough as the Athletic says, but with VK saying it’s been a real advantage to plan early after securing promotion, I was expecting more encouraging news by now.

Those videos don't film themselves

[Hapag Lloyd]

Those videos don't film themselves

The one for Verbruggen is already done but was used last year for Muric.

[burnley007]

Who will be our next 1st team signing?

Verbruggen?

[alwaysaclaret]

Reports suggesting we're in talks with Nathan tella, this surely means a bid has been accepted

[RVclaret]

Reports suggesting we're in talks with Nathan tella, this surely means a bid has been accepted

No reports on this.

[claretburns]

Reports suggesting we're in talks with Nathan tella, this surely means a bid has been accepted

Not necessarily, the selling club can give permission to the buying club to discuss terms with the player before a sale value has been agreed. Though if the reports are true, it will show we're not far away in valuation.

[distortiondave]

Would loaning Tella again count towards the limit for domestic loans, or is that only for domestic loans from the same league?

[claretburns]

Would loaning Tella again count towards the limit for domestic loans, or is that only for domestic loans from the same league?

These are the rules from last season, apologies if they have changed.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.

So we can only have two loan players at the club at one time, no matter what country or league the player's parent club is.

[AGENT_CLARET]

No reports on this.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/posit ... sfer-saga/

One of a few

[RicardoMontalban]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/posit ... sfer-saga/

One of a few

Those reports say we’re in talks with the club. The OP suggested we were in talks with the player himself.

[Jakubs Tash]

These are the rules from last season, apologies if they have changed.

They are:
- Premier League clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time.
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.

So we can only have two loan players at the club at one time, no matter what country or league the player's parent club is.

I'm not sure that is correct.

We can only loan two players from PL clubs but only one per club, e.g we couldn't get two loans from Man City.

But I'm fairly sure we could also loan foreign players on top of this.

[claretburns]

I'm not sure that is correct.

We can only loan two players from PL clubs but only one per club, e.g we couldn't get two loans from Man City.

But I'm fairly sure we could also loan foreign players on top of this.

You are correct Jakub, I just re-read the link I went to and the rules I posted are for Premier League clubs loaning players from other English clubs. So loans from abroad can be done on top of the English club loans.

[Lancasterclaret]

To put transfers champ-prem into context, Brighton have just signed Pedro from Watford for almost £30 million

[Newcastleclaret93]

Athletic suggesting that Muric could be on his way out if Verbruggen comes in.

That would be interesting given loads of fans thought they would battle it out for the number 1 role

[CrosspoolClarets]

Seems very unlikely that Muric moves on unless there is inside knowledge that he wants to. If we sign Verbruggen and he picks up an injury the day the window closes, we are stuffed. Even if we got a youngster like Trafford as short term backup, short term is not 10-20 games.

An offer too good of course, say £15m, could be a different matter. Any less and with City’s sell on clause it wouldn’t be worth it.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Seems very unlikely that Muric moves on unless there is inside knowledge that he wants to. If we sign Verbruggen and he picks up an injury the day the window closes, we are stuffed. Even if we got a youngster like Trafford as short term backup, short term is not 10-20 games.

An offer too good of course, say £15m, could be a different matter. Any less and with City’s sell on clause it wouldn’t be worth it.

We would still have BPF as back up and potentially a youngster.

[Nori1958]

Seems very unlikely that Muric moves on unless there is inside knowledge that he wants to. If we sign Verbruggen and he picks up an injury the day the window closes, we are stuffed. Even if we got a youngster like Trafford as short term backup, short term is not 10-20 games.

An offer too good of course, say £15m, could be a different matter. Any less and with City’s sell on clause it wouldn’t be worth it.

Was the sell on 40 percent?

[brunlea99]

El Bilal Toure

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sour ... ign-toure/