Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Nori1958]

What, The fellow he went home to Australia. He's come back to Europe?

Only 24.....how time flies

[NewClaret]

I never understand these type of comments, so because Kent has signed for Fenerbahce, Burnley were never interested so Nixon was wrong?

I thought Nixon always said there was interest from Burnley and Fenerbahce, for whatever reason he hasn’t signed here, maybe we pulled out last minute.

I knew you’d pick up on this one KRBFC

[ClaretLoup]

According to the Nottingham local paper Burnley are vying with Forest to sign Che Adams. It seemed we are in pole position as we can offer Adams a first choice slot whereas Forest can’t.

Last season he banged in a meagre 5 EPL goals in 23 starts but did get five in their extended League Cup run. Apparently he is on £50k per week and only one year left on his deal. Personally I think Tella is the better player and brighter prospect however you can see why the Saints would want to hang on to their less costly and potentially better player and pick up some dosh and offload Adams from the wage bill.

If signed on a long deal and Adams has a moderately successful season, the Clarets could turn a profit and trade up. Also he will have Bellamy as his coach.

[Commy]

Not sure if we are still interested but Gyökeres is causing quite a stir with his comments.

https://twitter.com/AllThingSkyBlue/sta ... MxlUg&s=19

https://twitter.com/andy_cov93/status/1 ... 95/photo/1

[claretburns]

Not sure if we are still interested but Gyökeres is causing quite a stir with his comments.

https://twitter.com/AllThingSkyBlue/sta ... MxlUg&s=19

https://twitter.com/andy_cov93/status/1 ... 95/photo/1

I might be adding 2 and 2 together and getting 5 but the way he talks about having the chance to sign for a club last summer and in the winter window and he chose to stay with Coventry and asking Coventry to sell him to the club that will help his career and is the right fit and not just to the club offering the most money, I think he is talking about us.

[Commy]

He isn't happy about the price on his head with only having a year left on his contract.

[dermotdermot]

According to the Nottingham local paper Burnley are vying with Forest to sign Che Adams. It seemed we are in pole position as we can offer Adams a first choice slot whereas Forest can’t.

Last season he banged in a meagre 5 EPL goals in 23 starts but did get five in their extended League Cup run. Apparently he is on £50k per week and only one year left on his deal. Personally I think Tella is the better player and brighter prospect however you can see why the Saints would want to hang on to their less costly and potentially better player and pick up some dosh and offload Adams from the wage bill.

If signed on a long deal and Adams has a moderately successful season, the Clarets could turn a profit and trade up. Also he will have Bellamy as his coach.

I’d rather have Nathan Tella back instead of him. At double the price.

[northeastclaret]

I agree , I think we have all watched him closely when it was said we are possibly interested in him. I think he looked impressive up until in the match at Burnley he didn’t make the most of the chance provided by Beyers short back pass. Since then every time I have seen him on tv he has shown little end product.

[ClaretLoup]

I’d rather have Nathan Tella back instead of him. At double the price.

Thing is Dermotx2 if Southampton don’t want to sell him then Burnley can offer all the tea in China and it makes no odds. It looks to me like the Saints want to offload the not very prolific Adams, cut their wage bill and hope Tella works the same magic for them as he did for Burnley and put them in or around the auto slots.

It looks more likely to me that we might be able to purchase Nathan in January if things don’t work out for the Saints for whatever reason. A lot could depend on who fills the vacant Southampton manager’s position.

[Anthonini]

Kompany can find a better one for cheaper. Also Agyei is very promising. De Ketelaere is a huge prospect similar profile to De Bruyne maybe even harder working and more volume. Would be awesome if he could get signed. Skov Olsen looks promising too he should go for about 13m euros.

Lukebakio is also for sale for about 15. He's been excellent in the national team lately. Can play as a winger or a striker just like De Ketelaere who can even play as a playmaker.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’d rather have Nathan Tella back instead of him. At double the price.

Che Adams doesn’t set the pulse racing but playing devils advocate this how the two compare.

Adams best champ season at 21 = 22 goals and 5 assists in 46 games.
Adams best Prem Season at 23 = 9 goals and 5 assists in 36 games.

Tella best Champ season at 23 = 17 goals and 4 assists in 39 games.
Tella best Prem season at 22 = 1 goal and 1 assist in 18 games.

Che Adams for a relatively low fee would represent decent business, he’s had 4 full seasons at premier league level and is still relatively young.

[ClaretLoup]

Personally I wouldn’t be unhappy with Adams although he is a bit like Foster who, in all probability, isn’t ready for EPL yet whereas Adams is tried and tested & knows the ropes. I wonder if it’s the case that if we are in for Adams that it implies that we have given up on Tella?

The only way I can see us signing Nathan before the window shuts is if he downs tools a la Tarky and Obafemi but somehow I can’t see this happening as Tella strikes me as a lovely, simple ( in the straightforward sense ) lad who just loves playing football.

I am hoping that these comments are bumped up at some later date in one those look how utterly wrong you have been threads when Tella signs for Burnley.

[FeedTheArf]

Che Adams doesn’t set the pulse racing but playing devils advocate this how the two compare.

Adams best champ season at 21 = 22 goals and 5 assists in 46 games.
Adams best Prem Season at 23 = 9 goals and 5 assists in 36 games.

Tella best Champ season at 23 = 17 goals and 4 assists in 39 games.
Tella best Prem season at 22 = 1 goal and 1 assist in 18 games.

Che Adams for a relatively low fee would represent decent business, he’s had 4 full seasons at premier league level and is still relatively young.

I think the difference is with Adams you know what you're getting. He might bag 5-6 goals a season but he'll be on a big wage (by our standard) and looks like a 12m fee banded around which is a fair chunk of change for a club like ours.

With Tella you're buying potential. He could bag 15, be on the cusp of an England call-up and sold for 40m; he could score 1 and be loaned out to a Championship club the following season.

Tella would be the more exciting, Adams is more of a steady-Eddie (dare I say Dyche?!) signing.

It comes down to how much you're wanting to take a chance on players.

[123EasyasBFC]

Che Adams doesn’t set the pulse racing but playing devils advocate this how the two compare.

Adams best champ season at 21 = 22 goals and 5 assists in 46 games.
Adams best Prem Season at 23 = 9 goals and 5 assists in 36 games.

Tella best Champ season at 23 = 17 goals and 4 assists in 39 games.
Tella best Prem season at 22 = 1 goal and 1 assist in 18 games.

Che Adams for a relatively low fee would represent decent business, he’s had 4 full seasons at premier league level and is still relatively young.

I don’t see Adam’s being a relatively low fee, they signed him for £16mil you’d expect they would want to at least get their money back to sell him

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t see Adam’s being a relatively low fee, they signed him for £16mil you’d expect they would want to at least get their money back to sell him

I’ve seen different sources say varying amounts. Some are saying 6m with only a year left on his contract and others are saying 10-12m.

I think at that sort of money he’s a decent signing. Would get a handful of useful goals

[123EasyasBFC]

I’ve seen different sources say varying amounts. Some are saying 6m with only a year left on his contract and others are saying 10-12m.

I think at that sort of money he’s a decent signing. Would get a handful of useful goals

It’s abit like Gyokeres, clubs will demand the highest fee possible but ultimately when players only have a year left on their contracts they will struggle to get that fee, if we didn’t already have foster, jay and obafemi I’d be all for Adam’s

[Goobs]

Comparions between Tella and Adams are silly. They play different roles. Adams would be the hold up player in the Barnes /Jay role and tella played more of a hybrid winger / inside forward type role. I doubt the signing of 1 position would have a large bearing on the other for anything other than budgetary reasons.

[Rileybobs]

Comparions between Tella and Adams are silly. They play different roles. Adams would be the hold up player in the Barnes /Jay role and tella played more of a hybrid winger / inside forward type role. I doubt the signing of 1 position would have a large bearing on the other for anything other than budgetary reasons.

Just about to post exactly the same - they play for the same club but they aren't really comparable as players or how they would be deployed at Burnley. We're at least a centre forward light with the departure of Barnes - presuming Weghorst doesn't return. I would personally prefer a centre forward with a better strike rate but we may be able to get a good deal on Adams who at least has Premier League experience and scored goals at that level.

[warksclaret]

As someone has already suggested-Adams is more of a Dyche signing than one of VK. Would be very surprised if we went for him, particularly in view of the overseas names we have been linked with

[MiT]

Matt Doherty another free agent link, fits the mould of prem experience player

Doherty is a good professional and a solid player. He did not fit in at Spurs due to constant switches in management and playing style. I think Kompany could do well with him.

[MiT]

As someone has already suggested-Adams is more of a Dyche signing than one of VK. Would be very surprised if we went for him, particularly in view of the overseas names we have been linked with

Funny that Everton is also linked with him.

14.3m sterling on transfermarkt - might cost a little more due to competition for signature. Lots of PL clubs at mid table need squad players.

Kompany's interest level depends on his need for hold up and finishing play and on whether he thinks Adams is good enough to put the time and effort into him for that role.

[LaLigaClaret]

I wouldn't even consider Adams when we were in the Championship let alone the PL. Given the possible links (all be it not concrete) to overseas players this would be a disappointing signing for me and very much lacking in the excitement stakes. I don't think he would trouble defenders in the PL, predictable and previously known to them I would prefer a less known player to defenders who might be a bit more unpredictable and technically superior or in other words much more of a goal scorer or who has a lot of pace and not someone who struggled in a struggling team.

[Darnhill Claret]

How many homegrown players do we need per game, either on the pitch or in the squad?

[DCWat]

I wouldn't even consider Adams when we were in the Championship let alone the PL. Given the possible links (all be it not concrete) to overseas players this would be a disappointing signing for me and very much lacking in the excitement stakes. I don't think he would trouble defenders in the PL, predictable and previously known to them I would prefer a less known player to defenders who might be a bit more unpredictable and technically superior or in other words much more of a goal scorer or who has a lot of pace and not someone who struggled in a struggling team.

In the few occasions that I’ve seen him, I’ve thought that he looks half decent. There’s certainly plenty to work with.

He wouldn’t be my choice necessarily but I wouldn’t be hugely disappointed if we signed him.

[claretburns]

How many homegrown players do we need per game, either on the pitch or in the squad?

I think it is 8 homegrown players in the 25 man squad. Not sure how many in the match day squad.

[123EasyasBFC]

I think it is 8 homegrown players in the 25 man squad. Not sure how many in the match day squad.

8 in the 25 man squad, don’t remember there being a limit in the match day squad. Then for Europe it’s 8 home grown with 4 being home grown at the club

[taio]

I wouldn't even consider Adams when we were in the Championship let alone the PL. Given the possible links (all be it not concrete) to overseas players this would be a disappointing signing for me and very much lacking in the excitement stakes. I don't think he would trouble defenders in the PL, predictable and previously known to them I would prefer a less known player to defenders who might be a bit more unpredictable and technically superior or in other words much more of a goal scorer or who has a lot of pace and not someone who struggled in a struggling team.

I don't think we should consider him either. Would be underwhelming especially at the figures mentioned. The only way I'd think it would be worthwhile is if it was a free transfer.

[StayingDown4Ever]

I think the difference is with Adams you know what you're getting. He might bag 5-6 goals a season but he'll be on a big wage (by our standard) and looks like a 12m fee banded around which is a fair chunk of change for a club like ours.

With Tella you're buying potential. He could bag 15, be on the cusp of an England call-up and sold for 40m; he could score 1 and be loaned out to a Championship club the following season.

Tella would be the more exciting, Adams is more of a steady-Eddie (dare I say Dyche?!) signing.

It comes down to how much you're wanting to take a chance on players.

I think we already took a chance on the pony Foster. I wouldn’t want us wasting that sort of money on another flop.

[boyyanno]

I'm not saying I want Adams (I'd love the Milik link to be true) but to suggest he isn't worth the fee is a bit silly imo.

Statistically he isn't bad in the PL and hes not quite in his peak yet.

Last 3 seasons:

2022- 2023 Played 28 scored 5 assists 3
2021-2022 Played 30 scored 7 assists 3
2020-2021 Played 36 scored 9 assists 5

If we start turning our nose up at these kind of players then that Premier league big boy mentality has crept in quicker than I thought it would.

He's easily worth 10-12m of someone's money in today's market.

[gandhisflipflop]

I think we already took a chance on the pony Foster. I wouldn’t want us wasting that sort of money on another flop.

The pony foster? You cannot be serious?

[Enola Gay]

The pony foster? You cannot be serious?

Check his posting history, he's very serious.

[TheFamilyCat]

How many homegrown players do we need per game, either on the pitch or in the squad?

Does 'homrgrown" mean qualifies to play for England, or does Cullen count as being born in England?

[gandhisflipflop]

Check his posting history, he's very serious.

Just when I thought some fans couldn’t get any more clueless about the game. This will resurface in 12 months and make the poster look very silly imo

[Burnley1989]

Just when I thought some fans couldn’t get any more clueless about the game. This will resurface in 12 months and make the poster look very silly imo

He’s a ******* fan on the wind up, ignore him, he will be banned soon

[123EasyasBFC]

Saw a link to Tillman from Bayern who’s been on loan at rangers, very good player with a lot of potential, played both 10 and 9 role this season, would be perfect fit as that false 9 striker like barnes played back end of season

[RVclaret]

Saw a link to Tillman from Bayern who’s been on loan at rangers, very good player with a lot of potential, played both 10 and 9 role this season, would be perfect fit as that false 9 striker like barnes played back end of season

I like his playing profile as you say, also age and lowish fee rumoured makes sense.

[123EasyasBFC]

I like his playing profile as you say, also age and lowish fee rumoured makes sense.

Don’t know how real of a rumour it is, just liked the look of him this season when watching rangers

[Newcastleclaret93]

L’Equippe saying we are making moves alongside two other clubs for Arnaud Nordin

[123EasyasBFC]

L’Equippe saying we are making moves alongside two other clubs for Arnaud Nordin

Could be why kompany and Bellamy where out watching montpellier other week

[LaLigaClaret]

I'm not saying I want Adams (I'd love the Milik link to be true) but to suggest he isn't worth the fee is a bit silly imo.

Statistically he isn't bad in the PL and hes not quite in his peak yet.

Last 3 seasons:

2022- 2023 Played 28 scored 5 assists 3
2021-2022 Played 30 scored 7 assists 3
2020-2021 Played 36 scored 9 assists 5

If we start turning our nose up at these kind of players then that Premier league big boy mentality has crept in quicker than I thought it would.

He's easily worth 10-12m of someone's money in today's market.

Yes he probably is ....to someone else just not us.

You will notice his goal scoring record is going backwards not progressing upwards and do you really believe that record would be good enough to keep us up. We cannot afford to go into a PL season with JayRod, Obefemi and Foster who are not exactly showing great goal scoring at the moment. Two of these have not performed well in terms of scoring last season and whilst I'm not writing them off they are hardly going to make PL defenders quake in their boots. I would suggest adding someone that that poor a record is not likely to set the world alight. We need a proven quality goal scorer not known well by PL defenders and I'm afraid Che Adams is not that man.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Yes he probably is ....to someone else just not us.

You will notice his goal scoring record is going backwards not progressing upwards and do you really believe that record would be good enough to keep us up. We cannot afford to go into a PL season with JayRod, Obefemi and Foster who are not exactly showing great goal scoring at the moment. Two of these have not performed well in terms of scoring last season and whilst I'm not writing them off they are hardly going to make PL defenders quake in their boots. I would suggest adding someone that that poor a record is not likely to set the world alight. We need a proven quality goal scorer not known well by PL defenders and I'm afraid Che Adams is not that man.

Tbf La liga I think you are massively under rating how hard it is to score goals in the prem. for context in our last season in the prem we only had one player that scored more than that.

The next highest was Ben Mee with 3.

Adams would represent good business. He has about 50 goal contributions in 145 games at prem level. That’s not a bad return at all especially for a 26 year old.

[JarrowClaret]

Tbf La liga I think you are massively under rating how hard it is to score goals in the prem. for context in our last season in the prem we only had one player that scored more than that.

The next highest was Ben Mee with 3.

Adams would represent good business. He has about 50 goal contributions in 145 games at prem level. That’s not a bad return at all especially for a 26 year old.

To be honest I would rather save the money and go with what we have. That said Adams is an international and does score a decent amount of goals at Prem level so if we sign him I have no doubt given the opportunity he will score goals for us.

[boyyanno]

Yes he probably is ....to someone else just not us.

You will notice his goal scoring record is going backwards not progressing upwards and do you really believe that record would be good enough to keep us up. We cannot afford to go into a PL season with JayRod, Obefemi and Foster who are not exactly showing great goal scoring at the moment. Two of these have not performed well in terms of scoring last season and whilst I'm not writing them off they are hardly going to make PL defenders quake in their boots. I would suggest adding someone that that poor a record is not likely to set the world alight. We need a proven quality goal scorer not known well by PL defenders and I'm afraid Che Adams is not that man.

I'd be happy with a striker giving us 10-15 goal contributions in the PL. If I'm honest you're being unrealistic if you expect us to go and sign someone who is going to get more for the same cost. Its far more difficult than it looks, Wood was giving us that (more goals and less assists) and the general opinion was we would struggle to do much better.

He's played less games and Saints got relegated this year so it's not exactly fair to say he's gone backwards really. The other thing is Adams would add a different dynamic that we maybe lost with Barnes leaving.

He wouldn't set the world alight but he'd be an astute signing. Like I say I'd much prefer Milik or possibly some others but given he's not just a goal scorer he's got decent stats, no idea how you can judge them as poor.

Decent bit on him here-

https://www.footballfancast.com/burnley ... er-league/

[LaLigaClaret]

I'd be happy with a striker giving us 10-15 goal contributions in the PL. If I'm honest you're being unrealistic if you expect us to go and sign someone who is going to get more for the same cost. Its far more difficult than it looks, Wood was giving us that (more goals and less assists) and the general opinion was we would struggle to do much better.

He's played less games and Saints got relegated this year so it's not exactly fair to say he's gone backwards really. The other thing is Adams would add a different dynamic that we maybe lost with Barnes leaving.

He wouldn't set the world alight but he'd be an astute signing. Like I say I'd much prefer Milik or possibly some others but given he's not just a goal scorer he's got decent stats, no idea how you can judge them as poor.

Decent bit on him here-

https://www.footballfancast.com/burnley ... er-league/

I would be happy as well if we had a striker scoring 10 to 15 goals in the PL but Adams is not likely to do that is he. Barnes would not work in the PL which is why he has gone to Norwich, Frankly our record the last time we went down is a good example of why a Barnes type player isn't going to cut it in the PL. We didn't score enough goals. The teams that went down this year had Barnes style players and they couldn't score goals either. Quite why you think Che Adams who struggled to score goals in a struggling team and going backwards is a good deal is beyond me. I know VK knows best but I would be astonished if Adams is added to Obafemi. JayRod and Foster and or Weghorst (another firing blanks all day long) as our strike force this year. Adams would be better suited to a Championship side like Norwich or Blackburn. I didn't say they were poor players but Foster hasn't clicked at Championship level so how will he be at PL level ? Obafemi struggled at Championship Swansea and didn't rip up trees for us last year. Jayrod is a year older and has been sussed out at PL level by defenders some time ago.

[Vegas Claret]

I didn't say they were poor players but Foster hasn't clicked at Championship level so how will he be at PL level ? Obafemi struggled at Championship Swansea and didn't rip up trees for us last year. Jayrod is a year older and has been sussed out at PL level by defenders some time ago.

Grealish cost 100 million, had already played in the PL and was absolute bobbins for the best team in World Football in his first full season (not 6 months). Players take time to settle, Foster had no pre-season then injuries

[boyyanno]

I would be happy as well if we had a striker scoring 10 to 15 goals in the PL but Adams is not likely to do that is he. Barnes would not work in the PL which is why he has gone to Norwich, Frankly our record the last time we went down is a good example of why a Barnes type player isn't going to cut it in the PL. We didn't score enough goals. The teams that went down this year had Barnes style players and they couldn't score goals either. Quite why you think Che Adams who struggled to score goals in a struggling team and going backwards is a good deal is beyond me. I know VK knows best but I would be astonished if Adams is added to Obafemi. JayRod and Foster and or Weghorst (another firing blanks all day long) as our strike force this year. Adams would be better suited to a Championship side like Norwich or Blackburn. I didn't say they were poor players but Foster hasn't clicked at Championship level so how will he be at PL level ? Obafemi struggled at Championship Swansea and didn't rip up trees for us last year. Jayrod is a year older and has been sussed out at PL level by defenders some time ago.

Strangely enough the team that went up as Champions in the championship and had 101 points had a Barnes type player up top. If goals can be shared around the team then having a forward getting 10-15 goal contributions (which is goals and assists) isn't a big problem. As I've already said I think it's unlikely we will go and get one for the same price. I think you're being way too overly negative about some of our players, Obefami didn't struggle at Swansea and Foster needs time to bed in. I suspect our highest scorer this season will be an inside forward like Tella, looks to me like Kompany wants more from a Striker than goals.

Anyway we aren't going to agree so...

[Quicknick]

I'd be happy with a striker giving us 10-15 goal contributions in the PL. If I'm honest you're being unrealistic if you expect us to go and sign someone who is going to get more for the same cost. Its far more difficult than it looks, Wood was giving us that (more goals and less assists) and the general opinion was we would struggle to do much better.

He's played less games and Saints got relegated this year so it's not exactly fair to say he's gone backwards really. The other thing is Adams would add a different dynamic that we maybe lost with Barnes leaving.

He wouldn't set the world alight but he'd be an astute signing. Like I say I'd much prefer Milik or possibly some others but given he's not just a goal scorer he's got decent stats, no idea how you can judge them as poor.

Decent bit on him here-

https://www.footballfancast.com/burnley ... er-league/

Interesting article.

[davideyresleftear]

Yes he probably is ....to someone else just not us.

You will notice his goal scoring record is going backwards not progressing upwards and do you really believe that record would be good enough to keep us up.

That's a good point but I think you need to take his team into account here, as Southampton have gone backwards in a dramatic fashion. It's chicken and egg sure. Did Southampton get relegated as they relied on Adams, and he didn't deliver? Or did he fail to deliver because they were crap? Either way, getting into the right team can transform a player. Look at Tella

[CrosspoolClarets]

The interesting thing about Adams is that even though Saints had a few foreign forwards that took a lot of the limelight it was still Adams who scored or assisted in 4 of their 6 Premier League wins (he was out injured for one). He isn’t one of those strikers who doesn’t score at that level, as sadly Jay now can be.

On that subject the stats of Onuachu are interesting - big money signing from Genk, virtually a goal a game in the first half of the season for them, zero for Saints in the second half. One to ponder if Tresor remains a target. A very different league to try to get space in the final third and score or create. If we do sign Tresor, we will need to be patient, something that based on the above discussion is in short supply.

[Lancasterclaret]

Realistically with Adams though, where is the potential sell on value?

There isn't one

Does seem a strange choice