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[ElectroClaret]

Welcome, Sam Allardyce.

Exit, half the crowd.

[fatboy47]

I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.

Welcome back Sean.

[criminalclaret]

Welcome back Sean.

Of all the adjectives for Sean Dyche, "extremely objectionable and self centred" certainly wouldn't be the two which spring to mind.....

[Murger]

Parker, Warnock. Can’t think of too many who’ve been promoted twice.

[criminalclaret]

Parker, Warnock. Can’t think of too many who’ve been promoted twice.

Bloody hell not Chris Hughton, the recently sacked Ghana manager? (Brighton and Newcastle promotions)

I really really wouldn't want Hughton. His football is dire. Parker anyday over Hughton

[CoolClaret]

Parker, Warnock. Can’t think of too many who’ve been promoted twice.

Bruce - Birmingham, Hull
Holloway - Blackpool, Palace
McCarthy - Sunderland, Wolves

...Oh and I don't think and certainly don't want it to be any of those three.

[criminalclaret]

Don't mind Steve Bruce as a person but cannot see him as our manager

[ClaretTony]

Of all the adjectives for Sean Dyche, "extremely objectionable and self centred" certainly wouldn't be the two which spring to mind.....

100% not

[AGENT_CLARET]

I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.

This is Scott Parker all day

[fatboy47]

Of all the adjectives for Sean Dyche, "extremely objectionable and self centred" certainly wouldn't be the two which spring to mind.....

Presumed the emoji would be taken as read...I wont let it happen again.

[ClaretTony]

This is Scott Parker all day

My post was replying to someone who was comparing Parker with Robins. Without a doubt Parker from what I’m told.

[Quickenthetempo]

Unlucky? He was sacked going 12 games without a win and 3 points above relegation. Hodgson took over after the transfer window had long ended and got them to 11th, above Chelsea. He paid €53-63m for a bunch of 20 year olds at Strasbourg and they also had a long winless run and finished 13/18th, 12 pts off Europe 10 off relegation, as decidedly lower-mid table as it gets. He was an elite player, better than Keane by far he's not overawed by him because they were rivals, but so far he's not done anything as manager. Big name and focuses on youth so checks those boxes, but any sort of managerial pedigree, no. We can't just go for someone because they're a famous player who signs youngsters because they're still pretty young too. May as well name Defour if we're doing that, and I love Defour but you get my point.

Parker wouldn't fill me with a ton of excitement, but he does have reasonable pedigree, especially for the environment he'd be inheriting- a strong, recently relegated, reasonably favoured team. Wouldn't say I'd be confident of winning the league, but you'd figure we ought to bounce back. I have to admit I still skew Moyes, but Parker could work. I see the temptation in a leftfield gamble like Kjetil Knutsen or Will Still but I'm not sure we're in a position to gamble. In terms of squad strength, you'd say we might be, but given how volatile the finances seem to be by the auditors report, we need to bounce back.

The unlucky part was he had a hard fixture run against all the big clubs at once like Burnley did at the beginning last season. Then Roy came in with all the easy games to play.

[helmclaret]

Latest BV odds… seems like Pace and co are doing a good job of not letting any leaks out.

[It Is What It Is]

The rules are different for players.

If Burnley, QPR & Oxford all went for the same player and offered the same deal we would win, If those same clubs did the same with a manager we would be 3rd pick due to location

Exactly.

[helmclaret]

£2-3 million a year would be the deciding factor.

[burnley007]

Latest BV odds… seems like Pace and co are doing a good job of not letting any leaks out.

Very little movement on those odds over the last few days.
Absolutely no rumours coming out, I do hope that there is plenty going on behind the scenes!

[aggi]

What would people think about Patrick Viera as our new manager.
I watched him on the overlap today and he impressed me how he wasn't phased about anything. Lots of banter and questions about him and Roy Keane. He didn't shirk any.
Plenty of guests in the TV studios are overawed by Keane.

Big name, managerial experience in several countries.
Top level player and serial winner.
French speaker.
Unlucky to get sacked at Palace.

Currently in a job so would be compensation to pay.

Viera seems a pretty good fit according to Wikipedia

the team went on an eight-game winless run, which fans blamed on a summer transfer window in which four 20-year-olds were signed for a combined fee of €53 million but struggled to perform.

Vieira's young team struggled on the pitch as fans expressed hostility to the American owners and their business plan of developing new players

[Holtyclaret]

Working 18 hours a day to feather his own nest

Same for most folk in most jobs?

[Boss Hogg]

My post was replying to someone who was comparing Parker with Robins. Without a doubt Parker from what I’m told.

Surprised by this as I don’t think he cones across that way in post match interviews.

[BigGaz]

I've seen quite a few signings down the years that a club has scouted player x or manager y, and ultimately decided that they wouldn't proceed but have let a contact at club z know they might be a good fit for them.

Any chance we can schmooze up to Brighton and ask them nicely for their names on their shortlist?

I would rather Bellamy have a go rather than these uninspiring, repeat failures off the managerial carousel that keep cropping up.

[spt_claret]

The unlucky part was he had a hard fixture run against all the big clubs at once like Burnley did at the beginning last season. Then Roy came in with all the easy games to play.

At the start of that run Palace were 12th, as they were prior to the World Cup break. Hodgson got them 11th, a place higher than before then.
"All the big clubs" - I recognise that Brighton had a great season finishing 6th but they aren't what you'd usually call big club, Palace got 1 point off them in two games in that run. They finished above Chelsea but lost to them in that run, Chelsea are classically a big club but in clear disarray, we can't class both Brighton and Chelsea as big without applying different standards. Before that winless run they'd lost 2/3- to Forest away and Fulham at home,only beating Bournemouth.

Hodgson came in and immediately won 3 in a row,yes against the relegated teams but at the time he took over those were all 6 pointers and he thrashed them especially Leeds. Should have beat Everton, leapfrogged West Ham. Yes he had easier fixtures but last season should have taught us there are no easy PL fixtures.
Hodgson got 18 points in 10 games, that's a huge swing. It stalled out the next season sure but despite a reasonable start to the season Viera stalled out badly and I'm doubtful he'd have done better than Hodgson, as he was lower in the league before the winless run and had dropped points to Leicester, Brentford and got battered by Everton.

[KefkaClaret]

Each name that pops up isn’t inspiring.

[Rick_Muller]

It wasn't the pull of the club that was being questioned, but the location, in which case Oxford utd fits the bill

as someone who grew up in Wiltshire and spent a lot of time in the Cotswolds, I'd take the Ribble Valley and the Pennines over the Cotswolds, but then it's all a personal perspective.

[Clive 1960]

Remember Frank was in town the other week and he if he gets the job it will be after Euros or when England get knocked out that's why possibly Bellamy is looking after things until then, but i might be completely wrong just have to sit tight until Pace reveals who it is ...

[Blyclaret]

Tony …. Has your source indicated what manager they have a preference for yet ??

[AGENT_CLARET]

Each name that pops up isn’t inspiring.

Who are you expecting Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola or someone like Mikel Arteta

[brexit]

Parker, Warnock. Can’t think of too many who’ve been promoted twice.

Mowbray?

[Blyclaret]

With Parker being mentioned as having been interviewed. It has to be him.

[Juan Tanamera]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28386546 ... tt-parker/

So Phil Thomas thinks that anyone who can get a tune out of Danny Dyer, Eddie Hearn and Stuart Broad in a charity kickabout must have something about them and we as Burnley fans must be buffoons for thinking otherwise.
The only buffoon here is Phil Thomas with his pile of condescending bullsh!t.

[jedi_master]

I have absolutely nothing to base anything on, but I reckon our manager is already selected (Lampard or Parker).

I think both have been interviewed, both now either away on holiday or tied up with other commitments (Euros punditry). Bellamy appointed to keep things ticking over on their and the clubs behalf, and possibly did interview at the same time. He may have been given some assurances of retention under whoever the new manager is after the interview process, hence him willing to stick around (and Mike Jackson).

Could be totally wrong, just the vibe I get from the lack of betting movement and lack of media talk in the last week to two weeks on the post. If nothing is getting out of the club it must surely be due to a level of relaxation about the appointment, possibly due to it being already fulfilled.

[LDNBFC87]

I have absolutely nothing to base anything on, but I reckon our manager is already selected (Lampard or Parker).

I think both have been interviewed, both now either away on holiday or tied up with other commitments (Euros punditry). Bellamy appointed to keep things ticking over on their and the clubs behalf, and possibly did interview at the same time. He may have been given some assurances of retention under whoever the new manager is after the interview process, hence him willing to stick around (and Mike Jackson).

Could be totally wrong, just the vibe I get from the lack of betting movement and lack of media talk in the last week to two weeks on the post. If nothing is getting out of the club it must surely be due to a level of relaxation about the appointment, possibly due to it being already fulfilled.

I can believe this.

[elwaclaret]

I suspect the objectionable one used to drive a pink Rolls Royce in a previous life or rather that is the name that springs to mind from conversations with people who support some of the clubs he was involved with.

[Clive 1960]

Was he really in town last week?
I've seen 1 random comment on here saying he was seen at Crow Wood

Surely that was a p*****ke?

only going of what people have said maybe he was passing through and just spent the night there like a lot of celebrities do ...

[ElectroClaret]

If nothing is getting out of the club it must surely be due to a level of relaxation about the appointment, possibly due to it being already fulfilled.

Either that or our choices have turned us down and we're now scrabbling about to secure someone else.
(Hope it's the first scenario, of course).

[The Project]

only going of what people have said maybe he was passing through and just spent the night there like a lot of celebrities do ...

It's a mystery but i think it is highly doubtful that Lampard stayed the night at Crow wood. If that was the case, guaranteed in this day and age picture evidence would be available online.

[morninbob]

I have absolutely nothing to base anything on, but I reckon our manager is already selected (Lampard or Parker).

I think both have been interviewed, both now either away on holiday or tied up with other commitments (Euros punditry). Bellamy appointed to keep things ticking over on their and the clubs behalf, and possibly did interview at the same time. He may have been given some assurances of retention under whoever the new manager is after the interview process, hence him willing to stick around (and Mike Jackson).

Could be totally wrong, just the vibe I get from the lack of betting movement and lack of media talk in the last week to two weeks on the post. If nothing is getting out of the club it must surely be due to a level of relaxation about the appointment, possibly due to it being already fulfilled.

Lampard was 1/2 now 6/4, Parker is 20/1 fill your boots.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Im hopeful it’s going to be a name not on that list.

[The Project]

Im hopeful it’s going to be a name not on that list.

Same here

[Quickenthetempo]

Viera seems a pretty good fit according to Wikipedia

the team went on an eight-game winless run, which fans blamed on a summer transfer window in which four 20-year-olds were signed for a combined fee of €53 million but struggled to perform.

Vieira's young team struggled on the pitch as fans expressed hostility to the American owners and their business plan of developing new players

He did mention the owners of Palace wanting to change style and age of players.
Like most new club owners.
There's not much evidence of that being successful though.

Just think he might be the best out of all the big name ex player candidates our owners obviously want.

[elwaclaret]

I think it could be argued that Patrick Vieira was very successful bringing a new generation through… getting time for young players to develop will always be an issue at most clubs and quite often the manager is long gone before the long view bears fruit.

[wilks_bfc]

Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑
What’s the attraction to Robins? His stats as a manager aren’t spectacular. I don’t see how you could rate him higher than Parker for example. Genuinely interested, not a dig at all

I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.

It may be me misinterpreting Tony’s post, but as hes replying not Penworthams post which specifically mentions 2 names, I’m reading that as Parker being the “extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League” not BFS, Pearson or any of the other names mentioned

[Vanders1994]

Can't access my athletic for some reason but andy jones has just put this on his X account

[blatherwickstattoos]

Hearing a young manager going in at Brighton. Not sure what Leicester are up to but my number 1 choice would be potter if we could convince him to drop a league.

[Vanders1994]

Guardian said Potter was leicesters number one choice last night again not sure how true that is

[Fizzy]

I'd take Potter in a heartbeat, but think it's unlikely

[RVclaret]

His article suggests there is no rush and might not even be a new man in by the time the players return on June 24th.

Must say I find that a bit concerning, and would have thought having someone in by then is quite important?

Other than that, sounds like the title could be Head Coach and not manager this time, and playing style, developing young players and fitting with the owners vision are the priorities.

[RVclaret]

Hearing a young manager going in at Brighton. Not sure what Leicester are up to but my number 1 choice would be potter if we could convince him to drop a league.

Now Southgate has said he’s leaving England if we don’t win the Euros I would say it’s highly likely Potter will be waiting for that.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Now Southgate has said he’s leaving England if we don’t win the Euros I would say it’s highly likely Potter will be waiting for that.

I was thinking this myself. Potter would have been great for us imo. Level headed guy, plays good football, adaptable with tactics. Ticks all the box’s for me. I can see us going for a young foreign manager

[Spijed]

Other than that, sounds like the title could be Head Coach and not manager this time, and playing style, developing young players and fitting with the owners vision are the priorities.

Once upon a time trying to win football matches was considered a priority.

[elwaclaret]

Now Southgate has said he’s leaving England if we don’t win the Euros I would say it’s highly likely Potter will be waiting for that.

I could see SD also potentially being an outsider for that job. There were rumours he was thinking of walking and with the takeover possibly happening I can see the new owners wanting a Stella appointment at Everton. He worked in the setup prior to working with us and has a reputation for getting the best out of his pool of players.