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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:18 pm

It did sound and read very Londoncentric didn't it?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Mattster » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:07 pm

Ah right, so nearly getting promoted from the Championship and a couple of promotions with by far the strongest sides in the league is the target?

Let's go all in on Farke then, eh?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Shaggy » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:27 pm

It’s Lampard.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Wokingclaret » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:34 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:27 pm
It’s Lampard.
Pardon

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:44 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:34 pm
Pardon
Pardew*

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Re: Next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:45 pm

Terrible Sun article by a poor journalist.
I know Parker was poor in the Premier League but he knows how to get a team out of the Championship. So similar to VK but he might have learnt something and be less stubborn. I’d prefer him to Lampard.

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Re: Next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:56 pm

I agree with bits in that Sun article, but that journalist is a condescending pillock.

No wonder nobody reads that shite newspaper anymore.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CnBtruntru » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:17 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:27 pm
It’s Lampard.
No It's a message to you Rudi ! ;)

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:44 pm

helmclaret wrote:
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He’s 10/1 on Bet Victor.
That price long gone.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:48 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:49 pm
'The Burnley cognoscenti'.
You rang....?

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcjg » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:50 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:17 pm
No It's a message to you Rudi ! ;)
Stop your messing around. 😁
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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:57 pm

Cifuentes will be announced on thursday because the club always announce new managers when the date has a 1 in it.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:21 pm

What would people think about Patrick Viera as our new manager.
I watched him on the overlap today and he impressed me how he wasn't phased about anything. Lots of banter and questions about him and Roy Keane. He didn't shirk any.
Plenty of guests in the TV studios are overawed by Keane.

Big name, managerial experience in several countries.
Top level player and serial winner.
French speaker.
Unlucky to get sacked at Palace.

Currently in a job so would be compensation to pay.

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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm

The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.

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Re: Next manager

Post by spt_claret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:00 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:21 pm
What would people think about Patrick Viera as our new manager.
I watched him on the overlap today and he impressed me how he wasn't phased about anything. Lots of banter and questions about him and Roy Keane. He didn't shirk any.
Plenty of guests in the TV studios are overawed by Keane.

Big name, managerial experience in several countries.
Top level player and serial winner.
French speaker.
Unlucky to get sacked at Palace.

Currently in a job so would be compensation to pay.


Unlucky? He was sacked going 12 games without a win and 3 points above relegation. Hodgson took over after the transfer window had long ended and got them to 11th, above Chelsea. He paid €53-63m for a bunch of 20 year olds at Strasbourg and they also had a long winless run and finished 13/18th, 12 pts off Europe 10 off relegation, as decidedly lower-mid table as it gets. He was an elite player, better than Keane by far he's not overawed by him because they were rivals, but so far he's not done anything as manager. Big name and focuses on youth so checks those boxes, but any sort of managerial pedigree, no. We can't just go for someone because they're a famous player who signs youngsters because they're still pretty young too. May as well name Defour if we're doing that, and I love Defour but you get my point.

Parker wouldn't fill me with a ton of excitement, but he does have reasonable pedigree, especially for the environment he'd be inheriting- a strong, recently relegated, reasonably favoured team. Wouldn't say I'd be confident of winning the league, but you'd figure we ought to bounce back. I have to admit I still skew Moyes, but Parker could work. I see the temptation in a leftfield gamble like Kjetil Knutsen or Will Still but I'm not sure we're in a position to gamble. In terms of squad strength, you'd say we might be, but given how volatile the finances seem to be by the auditors report, we need to bounce back.

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Re: Next manager

Post by spt_claret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:07 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm
The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.
You don't have to live in the town centre to manage the club, and as someone who doesn't even live in Lancashire anymore I'd say the Ribble Valley and Pendle Hill beat the interchangeable metropolitan dross of most city areas. Not to mention the fact the manager would be inheriting a club that's spent 8 of the last 10 years in the PL, 1 in Europe, and bounced back as Champions the 2 outside the Prem, and an on-paper strong squad, that on paper is brimming with youthful potential just needing a bit of time and the right manager to tap into it.

It's all about perspective. There's plenty of reasons why we should be a very, very attractive prospect to any self-confident or ambitious manager who believes they have the ability to develop players and win things.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quicknick » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:57 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm
The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.
He could live just over the county boundary in Yorkshire. That'd be a good move.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcjg » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:42 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm
The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.
Are you a BBC documentary maker ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:42 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm
The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.
If you’re not going to get an immediate PL job - our vacancy is the most attractive option there is.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:55 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm
The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.
Can you name these more desirable parts of the country selling second tier football clubs to reputable candidates

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:56 am

Casper2 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:55 am
Can you name these more desirable parts of the country selling second tier football clubs to reputable candidates
London clubs.

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:00 am

Casper2 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:55 am
Can you name these more desirable parts of the country selling second tier football clubs to reputable candidates
Norfolk and Oxfordshire

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Re: Next manager

Post by martin_p » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:15 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:55 pm
The problem we have got is selling a second tier football club managerial post in an old fashioned cotton mill town in a dreary East Lancashire to reputable candidates.
I mean, come on, they're are lots of similar positions in a lot more desirable parts of the country. We shouldn't be setting our expectations too high really.
We're Burnley, not Bayern.
Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.
Tin hat on.
We shouldn’t have any problem at all selling a position that has just been a stepping stone to one of the biggest clubs in Europe. Our last three managers are all currently at bigger clubs than Burnley.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:17 am

golden days wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:00 am
Norfolk and Oxfordshire
I’d say the ribble valley is a far more desirable part of the country, next !
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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:18 am

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:56 am
London clubs.
Which second tier clubs are looking for a manager?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:26 am

I don't think the fact that it's an "old fashioned cotton town in a dreary East Lancashire..." is all that relevant.

Our managers don't generally tend to reside in the town, apart from Stan of course.
SD was down the Ribble Valley and im assuming Kompany was Cheshire way.

It's the job that should attract.
If a manager is deterred by his surroundings, he's probably not the one for us.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:30 am

There's me thinking the manager had to live up Stoops/in the Kierby hotel as part of their contract!

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:31 am

Casper2 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:17 am
I’d say the ribble valley is a far more desirable part of the country, next !
The ribble valley is nice, but not quite up to the cotswolds

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:42 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:30 am
There's me thinking the manager had to live up Stoops/in the Kierby hotel as part of their contract!
I thought they slept at the Turf

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Re: Next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:47 am

golden days wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:31 am
The ribble valley is nice, but not quite up to the cotswolds
That hardly matters. We’ll be offering a salary to someone in an industry that helps them do both.

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Re: Next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:49 am

golden days wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:31 am
The ribble valley is nice, but not quite up to the cotswolds
Cotswolds is beautiful, but not really near any football clubs with more pull than Burnley.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:49 am

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:42 am
I thought they slept at the Turf
Apparantly VK did, don’t you know he was working 18 hours a day haha

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Re: Next manager

Post by dsr » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:51 am

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:56 am
London clubs.
Ever been to White Hart Lane? It doesn't strike me as being a dream place to live, but they still get managers.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:52 am

Working 18 hours a day to feather his own nest

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:53 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:49 am
Cotswolds is beautiful, but not really near any football clubs with more pull than Burnley.
It wasn't the pull of the club that was being questioned, but the location, in which case Oxford utd fits the bill

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:56 am

All managers take into account the location, the main reason that JDT left rovers was due to the damp in his Mill Hill terrace and his landlord not sorting it, so he left and went back to Copenhagen.
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:00 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:56 am
All managers take into account the location, the main reason that JDT left rovers was due to the damp in his Mill Hill terrace and his landlord not sorting it, so he left and went back to Copenhagen.
His son has signed a 2 year deal at Blackburn, staying in the ribble, he is frequently at pleckgate school where his does one to one training, friend of mines lad goes and has spoken to him there a few times

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:02 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:00 am
His son has signed a 2 year deal at Blackburn, staying in the ribble, he is frequently at pleckgate school where his does one to one training, friend of mines lad goes and has spoken to him there a few times
The rules are different for players.

If Burnley, QPR & Oxford all went for the same player and offered the same deal we would win, If those same clubs did the same with a manager we would be 3rd pick due to location

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:03 am

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:21 pm
What’s the attraction to Robins? His stats as a manager aren’t spectacular. I don’t see how you could rate him higher than Parker for example. Genuinely interested, not a dig at all.

I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Row Z » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:17 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:02 am
The rules are different for players.

If Burnley, QPR & Oxford all went for the same player and offered the same deal we would win, If those same clubs did the same with a manager we would be 3rd pick due to location
Disagree. Don’t think a manager who is ambitious and wants to manage in the premier league picks QPR or Oxford over us to achieve that aim. We have a strong recent history of being in the premier league and squad capable of returning. Location isn’t Burnley it’s North England.

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Re: Next manager

Post by colne-claret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:19 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:03 am
I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.
Hope it’s not Paul Jewell.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:25 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:03 am
I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.
Oh No…Not Nigel Pearson

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:26 am

colne-claret wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:19 am
Hope it’s not Paul Jewell.
Bloody hell, there’s a name from the past. His son Sam might have been useful. He was head of recruitment at Brighton until recently and he’s now at Chelsea.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Row Z » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:26 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:34 am
With Kompany I was referring more to the fact that upon winning the league he opted to ‘upgrade’ a number of players, who were some of the best in the Championship, rather than working to improve them. Rob Edwards achieved the same, in fact slightly more, by coaching his players - some of whom had come from the lower leagues.

It’s not hard to imagine that some of our players felt let down.
Agree with this. VK did say it was an attempt to short circuit our growth up to Brighton levels quicker than they’ve got there and perhaps he didn’t see the growth in those championship players to reach those heights. This supports the thought that he’s a mercenary as you’re quite right, dropping players who’ve just performed excellently is only going one way!

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Re: Next manager

Post by colne-claret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:35 am

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:25 am
Oh No…Not Nigel Pearson
Thankfully…I think he only has one.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:36 am

colne-claret wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:35 am
Thankfully…I think he only has one.
Didnt he take Leicester up twice ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by colne-claret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:40 am

Rumpelstiltskin wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:36 am
Didnt he take Leicester up twice ?
One was league one.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:41 am

colne-claret wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:40 am
One was league one.
I’m very happy and relieved to be wrong.

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Re: Next manager

Post by MeeActon1 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:46 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:03 am
I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.
Welcome, Sam Allardyce.

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Re: Next manager

Post by criminalclaret » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:48 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:03 am
I’ve been told that one of them is an extremely objectionable, self centred bloke but he does have two promotions to the Premier League. Robins is not really for me. He’s done a superb job at Coventry to be fair but his long term management record isn’t anything to get excited about.
Bloody hell not Chris Hughton, the recently sacked Ghana manager? (Brighton and Newcastle promotions)

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