Brentford v Burnley match thread.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm

Lovely play gets us the corner but we don't scare anyone from there.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm

So is Trafford the worst goal keeper or keeping us in it?

I'm struggling to see past the agendas

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm

claret wizard wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:44 pm
We’d be 4-0 down with Muric in goal today.

Don't think so.
The majority of the saves Trafford has made were pretty routine.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm

Simple things this, not much to do with formation. Second balls, not sharp enough. Passing, too slow. Decision making, awful. They're still dreaming they have a second longer than they actually have. And in the absence of physicality, we should be at least sharper and quicker.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm

But I thought once we started playing teams outside the top six and top ten etc, we'd start winning some games?

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm

Foster only one putting a shift in.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Where have they got extra 4 mins from?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

To be fair if you come up and spend the way we did, you expect us to be at least competitive. This season we have only really competed on two of our Prem games so far. Luton and Forest. Been ripped apart in the others.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Billyblah wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:45 pm
"Sean, pleeeeeease come back. You played Dyche -ball" it was solid, it was boring, but we were rarely steam-rollered, and we came out with some good 1-0 wins ".

I’d demand my penny back, as that would obviously be a lie.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Berge is so so lazy . Cullen needs help with either Cork or Brownhill ( or both ) along side him .

SPC&G · Post by **SPC&G** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Better from us

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

**** weak corner.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

I like to think Russell Ball is sat in the directors box shaking his head staring at our away fans, “this wouldn’t be happening if you had a drum”.

Good effort Zeki

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Good effort!!
Decent move.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm

Beautiful play nvolving Tresor and Amdouni shot. The ball to tresor was delightful but I dfidn't see who by. Corner leads to us having to defend again.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:48 pm

Cullen booked

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:48 pm

The sooner this game is over, the sooner the players can get back to giving sly little digs about the support in their midweek interviews.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:48 pm

Can only think those who can't remember a worse performance missed the 09/10 season and Dyche's last season.

I think the vast majority of players in the team are comfortably good enough for this league (unsure on O'Shea and too early to say on Odobert/Tresor) and are playing way, way below their standard.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:48 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm
But I thought once we started playing teams outside the top six and top ten etc, we'd start winning some games?

I mean it’s only 1-0 and 45 mins in. And not sure anyone’s said we’d win every game!

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:49 pm

All these “Trafford keeping us in it” statements are upsetting the agenda…. Get a grip please…

Come on Burnley!!!!

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:49 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:47 pm
Beautiful play nvolving Tresor and Amdouni shot. The ball to tresor was delightful but I dfidn't see who by. Corner leads to us having to defend again.

Cullen played the ball to Tresor.

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:49 pm

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm
So is Trafford the worst goal keeper or keeping us in it?

I'm struggling to see past the agendas

Judge for yourself - he's made 4 good saves.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:49 pm

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm
So is Trafford the worst goal keeper or keeping us in it?

I'm struggling to see past the agendas

Neither really, but he's certainly not being helped by what's in front of him so far.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:50 pm

Amazingly we can win this

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:50 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:48 pm
I mean it’s only 1-0 and 45 mins in. And not sure anyone’s said we’d win every game!

I haven't said we'll win every game? We've been bad so far today, again. Previous games it was because the opposition was just too good, apparently. So what now?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:50 pm

Trafford has made good saves to keep the score down, but was awful on the goal.

Can we afford a young and inconsistent keeper? My judgment is no. Others are free to make up their own minds of course

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm

Glad for the HT whistle.

We are desperate for some muscle in the niddle, right down the spine. Nice footballers but need a general on the pitch.

Florian · Post by **Florian** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm

Whats annoying is brentford arent even that good
We have been poor. Giving the ball away.
We look good going forward
Somethings got to give

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm

Darthlaw wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm
So is Trafford the worst goal keeper or keeping us in it?

I'm struggling to see past the agendas

He keeps giving them the ball back & occasionally saves one!

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm

If we can get half time at 1-0, I’m backing us to win.

And we just have. We’ll win this.

Why? Dunno - watch though.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm

Poor first half. The positive being that we are only one down.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm

Half Time, what a HORRORSHOW.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:52 pm

Trafford a few heebie jeebies but is keeping us in the game.

The stats are scary. Don’t know which is worse. Berge’s 8 passes. Their 12 shots within our 18 yard box. Mbuemu’s dribbles. Our heatmap. Dreadful, dreadful stats.

Need Cork on, beyond badly. Brownhill too. Berge off, Odobert off (for now). Tresor and Ambouni flanking Foster with those three midfielders behind. Kompany looking not good enough but is young, raw, but clever, and will learn fast. He’s now realising that 11 years at the top of this league as a player means naff all.

Amazingly, we remain in the game.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:52 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:50 pm
Trafford has made good saves to keep the score down, but was awful on the goal.

Can we afford a young and inconsistent keeper? My judgment is no. Others are free to make up their own minds of course

They're good saves but they're saves that every goalkeeper signed to a Premier League team should make every time.

hoskinsgoalatswansea · Post by **hoskinsgoalatswansea** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:52 pm

Shockingly poor performance so far. Particularly defensively. Truly awful.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:52 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm
But I thought once we started playing teams outside the top six and top ten etc, we'd start winning some games?

It's only half time ffs

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:52 pm

We are very lucky to only be 1 down here. Can we now take advantage of their poor finishingto get back into this second half?

We have to learn to keep the ball, something we were so bloody good at last season. Now we are lucky if we can put 3-4 passes together.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

Right Vincent let's see what you're made of . Hopefully a team with a bit of fight might turn up in the second half .

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

HT a long way off good enough.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

Delighted at 0-1. Thr boys are about to get a good old fashioned rollicking here I'd imagine. Let's hope it does the trick. Brentford aren't that great, we can still get a result here

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:49 pm
Cullen played the ball to Tresor.

Cheers, it was perfectly weighted with excellent vision. Not had a great season so far but he clearly has his moments.

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:51 pm
If we can get half time at 1-0, I’m backing us to win.

And we just have. We’ll win this.

Why? Dunno - watch though.

Next goal key. If we somehow get it, it's very possible. If we don't it could get very ugly

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:50 pm
I haven't said we'll win every game? We've been bad so far today, again. Previous games it was because the opposition was just too good, apparently. So what now?

We have been poor in comparison to the games at Luton or Forest. Kompany looking way too naive in his selections in my opinion.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:48 pm
Can only think those who can't remember a worse performance missed the 09/10 season and Dyche's last season.

I think the vast majority of players in the team are comfortably good enough for this league (unsure on O'Shea and too early to say on Odobert/Tresor) and are playing way, way below their standard.

But they aren't showing it. Too many of the players out there today have been our weakest so far and it's showing. This is pretty much 09/10 re run without the good start at home whilst the promoted side rode the euphoria

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

Completely crap, our transfers have been horrendous.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:49 pm
Judge for yourself - he's made 4 good saves.

He’s a good shot stopper. It’s the rest of his game where he is weak. That punch out was pathetic. The reaction save for the deflected shot was very good.

Give me a nice rounded steady goal keeper any day of the week, instead of a lower league shot stopper.

claret wizard · Post by **claret wizard** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:46 pm
Don't think so.
The majority of the saves Trafford has made were pretty routine.

I agree, but Muric hardly faced a shot last year. No way is he making those saves.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:53 pm

We've no battlers in this team, everyone of them is powder puff soft.

BigGaz · Post by **BigGaz** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:54 pm

I don’t understand why we’ve taken our:

Possession based game
Short passes only
High defensive line
Get wingers on the ball as much as possible
Nominal Full backs moving into midfield in possession

Approach that had us touted as one of the best championship sides ever and replaced it with whatever the hell this is.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 3:54 pm

Vincent will change it at ht . Berg off and Cork on.