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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:13 am

He’s a winger anyway, not sure where he would fit into the squad. Can’t believe he’s on 130k, that’s mental money for him.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:23 am

plenty of Villa fans saying he is on between 50-70K and nowhere near the 130. Still above our pay grade I would imagine

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:21 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Tue Jul 19, 2022 10:06 pm
Mitrovic has a better goal scoring record in the Premier League than both Barnes and Jay-Rod
Premier league goals

Jay Rod - 23
Mitrovic - 24
Barnes - 45

He beats Jay Rod by one goal

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Post by Suratclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:33 am

Goals to games ratio would be useful

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Post by Grimsdale » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:40 am

Minutes per goal (premier league):
Barnes 290
Jay Rod 305
Mitrovic 694
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:53 am

Belgian press suggesting Bart Verbruggen will be in England today to complete his medical / signing for us.

Deal worth 5m euros.

https://www.lesoir.be/455134/article/20 ... tterSports
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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:53 am

Back to transfers..... Belgium press reporting Bart will travel to Burnley today to sign

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:54 am

Opps... A bit slow there

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:55 am

Wonder if they’ll try get him out to Portugal and play the full 90 on Saturday with a view to him starting at Huddersfield. Interesting.

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:57 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:55 am
Wonder if they’ll try get him out to Portugal and play the full 90 on Saturday with a view to him starting at Huddersfield. Interesting.
You would hope so if he's going to feature in that first game

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:06 am

Grimsdale wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:40 am
Minutes per goal (premier league):
Barnes 290
Jay Rod 305
Mitrovic 694
Caught a few people there.

Mitrovic minutes per goal is 289

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Post by ClaretAL » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:21 am

A bit more on Muric, seems unlikely if Bart Verbruggen is signing.

https://manchestercity.vitalfootball.co ... n-4-years/

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Post by JR1882 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:24 am

Big big investment that is! 4m ish on a young keeper - he must be good. Hopefully will come off like Meslier has for Leeds.

Not sure I’d throw him in to a Friday night away debut game next week however when he has barely met any of the team (assuming he speaks English relatively well they usually do)

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:29 am

Thats a lot for a young keeper, especially if he's going to be starting a week on friday

Every set piece, against everyone, is going to be flinging balls into the box to see how he keeps

Very steep learning curve for him

I just can't see him starting that first game to be honest

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:35 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:29 am
Thats a lot for a young keeper, especially if he's going to be starting a week on friday

Every set piece, against everyone, is going to be flinging balls into the box to see how he keeps

Very steep learning curve for him

I just can't see him starting that first game to be honest
Yes I agree, perhaps he needs a period of time to experience the atmosphere / physicality from the sidelines at first

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Post by Murger » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:38 am

Agreed about Verbruggen. BPF to start next week would be the best bet.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:42 am

Murger wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:38 am
Agreed about Verbruggen. BPF to start next week would be the best bet.
Bloody hope not. I really do not rate him at all.
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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:43 am

JR1882 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:24 am
Big big investment that is! 4m ish on a young keeper - he must be good. Hopefully will come off like Meslier has for Leeds.

Not sure I’d throw him in to a Friday night away debut game next week however when he has barely met any of the team (assuming he speaks English relatively well they usually do)
I once saw a fantastic debut by a goalkeeper away at Huddersfield :lol:
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:47 am

From up the clarets fb page so don’t shoot the messenger....

Burnley have been linked with a €5 million move for Croatian Hajduk Split centre back Mario Vušković. The Croatia U21 international has previously been linked with a move to Brentford, and is a year into a two-year loan spell with Bundesliga 2. side Hamburger SV. He made 24 appearances for them last season as they finished third in the table. He’s also previously has interest from Napoli, Celtic and Torino 🤝⚽️

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:53 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:06 am
Caught a few people there.

Mitrovic minutes per goal is 289
Jay-Rod goals per match 0.19 shot accuracy 36%

Barnes goals per match 0.21 shot accuracy 37%

Mitrovic goals per match 0.23 shot accuracy 37%

Nothing between them, back to the rumours :lol:

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:44 am

I’m sure Cornet is good friends with Bertrand Traore, may be another step to keep Maxwel around for the season.

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:11 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:21 am
Premier league goals

Jay Rod - 23
Mitrovic - 24
Barnes - 45

He beats Jay Rod by one goal
I looked at their goals per games played ratio and Mitrovic was better than both of them. I wonder how people would view someone who came on here and told us both Barnes and Jay couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo when it comes to goal scoring in the Prem League. Im pretty sure the majority on here would not agree.

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Post by dsr » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:25 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:21 am
Premier league goals

Jay Rod - 23
Mitrovic - 24
Barnes - 45

He beats Jay Rod by one goal
Rodriguez has 44 PL goals. 26 for Southampton, 7 for West Brom, 11 for Burnley.

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:25 am

Murger wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:38 am
Agreed about Verbruggen. BPF to start next week would be the best bet.
Verbruggen will be BPF’s understudy. One for the future

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Post by claretandy » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:27 am

BPF to start, until he messes up.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:30 am

claretandy wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:27 am
BPF to start, until he messes up.
It'll be nice to see the new keeper against Luton :lol:

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:30 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:25 am
Verbruggen will be BPF’s understudy. One for the future
I’d suggest it’s highly unlikely we will be making him our more expensive signing of the summer to be an understudy for a keeper who didn’t stand out in League one last season.
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Post by dandeclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:31 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:43 am
I once saw a fantastic debut by a goalkeeper away at Huddersfield :lol:
Was that NiK The Greek? A mate of mine was convinced he was blind in his left eye given how he failed to react to shots from that side of the pitch frequently :lol: :lol:

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Post by Andingle » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:32 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:47 am
From up the clarets fb page so don’t shoot the messenger....

Burnley have been linked with a €5 million move for Croatian Hajduk Split centre back Mario Vušković. The Croatia U21 international has previously been linked with a move to Brentford, and is a year into a two-year loan spell with Bundesliga 2. side Hamburger SV. He made 24 appearances for them last season as they finished third in the table. He’s also previously has interest from Napoli, Celtic and Torino 🤝⚽️
Believe he has just signed a 3 year contract with Hamburger SV.

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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:42 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:47 am
From up the clarets fb page so don’t shoot the messenger....

Burnley have been linked with a €5 million move for Croatian Hajduk Split centre back Mario Vušković. The Croatia U21 international has previously been linked with a move to Brentford, and is a year into a two-year loan spell with Bundesliga 2. side Hamburger SV. He made 24 appearances for them last season as they finished third in the table. He’s also previously has interest from Napoli, Celtic and Torino 🤝⚽️
Surely the last thing we need is another CB, even with Colins going, we've got Egan-Riley, Long, McNally, THB and Thomas who can all play there if needed.

And if we have any disposal cash I'd far rather we put it towards a forward who might fire us to promotion, than yet another young CB.

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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:44 am

We ain't spending between £4.25m-£6m (according to reports from last week) on a goalkeeper to get splinters on his backside. He will be thrown straight in. I find that concerning as he is 19 and has played 7 first team games in his entire career, but we have to back the decision and see what happens. The goalkeeping coach clearly rates him incredibly highly, and the fact the fee is so large shows that Anderlecht do too.

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Post by northeastclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:45 am

Just checked and Verbruggen is 20 next month, a little bit more encouraging.
If VK thinks he is ready that good enough for me and hopefully from the first match , because BPF would be very much our weak link if he started.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:47 am

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:42 am
Surely the last thing we need is another CB, even with Colins going, we've got Egan-Riley, Long, McNally, THB and Thomas who can all play there if needed.

And if we have any disposal cash I'd far rather we put it towards a forward who might fire us to promotion, than yet another young CB.
I still feel that we need a bit of experience at the back. I don’t know anything about the player and someone said further up he had signed for Hamburg. I still think the best possible signing we could make would be Ben Davies at Liverpool.

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Post by Top Claret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:47 am

claretandy wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:27 am
BPF to start, until he messes up.
BDF must be given his chance in front of a 19 year old rookie.

We have 8 games in a month and we need an experienced goal keeper not a nervous kid

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:48 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:47 am
I still feel that we need a bit of experience at the back. I don’t know anything about the player and someone said further up he had signed for Hamburg. I still think the best possible signing we could make would be Ben Davies at Liverpool.
That would be tricky given he’s just signed for Rangers

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Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:48 am

There’s no chance we’re paying a record fee for a keeper for him to be benched behind Peacock-Farrell.

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Post by Nori1958 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:49 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:31 am
Was that NiK The Greek? A mate of mine was convinced he was blind in his left eye given how he failed to react to shots from that side of the pitch frequently :lol: :lol:
It was.... Promised so much

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:50 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:48 am
That would be tricky given he’s just signed for Rangers
I didn’t know that. Scrap that then! Going from recent links, I feel VK feels the same re the cb position. Jack Hendry was linked the other day. Again I know nothing about him but a few posters on here last month seemed to not rate him.

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Post by AwayClaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:53 am

Posters on here aren't the bench mark 🤣 :D
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Post by tiger76 » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:55 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:47 am
I still feel that we need a bit of experience at the back. I don’t know anything about the player and someone said further up he had signed for Hamburg. I still think the best possible signing we could make would be Ben Davies at Liverpool.
Forget about Ben Davies, he signed for Rangers yesterday.

I share your concerns about the lack of experience in the heart of our defence, and hopefully we'll be able to pick up a free agent as the window progresses if that's what Kompany wants.

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Post by northeastclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:59 am

Top Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:47 am
BDF must be given his chance in front of a 19 year old rookie.

We have 8 games in a month and we need an experienced goal keeper not a nervous kid
The problem is BPF often plays like a nervous kid. The Wednesday fans say that his his major weakness and why Leeds got rid and we have seen it when he has played for our first team .

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:02 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:30 am
I’d suggest it’s highly unlikely we will be making him our more expensive signing of the summer to be an understudy for a keeper who didn’t stand out in League one last season.
BFP has played successfully in the Championship and League 1. He’s done well internationally. Bart may be great but it’s going to take time for him to get anywhere near up to speed and no way is he going to start until BFP screws up.

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:04 am

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:44 am
We ain't spending between £4.25m-£6m (according to reports from last week) on a goalkeeper to get splinters on his backside. He will be thrown straight in. I find that concerning as he is 19 and has played 7 first team games in his entire career, but we have to back the decision and see what happens. The goalkeeping coach clearly rates him incredibly highly, and the fact the fee is so large shows that Anderlecht do too.
Having thought about this, he was benched at Anderlecht. I’m not sure what will have changed to make him go straight in to our team unless they mistakenly believe the Championship is a much lower standard than the Belgian Pro League?

My expectation/hope would be that the up front contribution is very small, the guaranteed payment quite reasonable over a long period & the total potential value being the €5-6m reported, with those coming when he starts playing games.

Having said that he’ll probably be first choice!!

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Post by northeastclaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:04 am

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:02 am
BFP has played successfully in the Championship and League 1. He’s done well internationally. Bart may be great but it’s going to take time for him to get anywhere near up to speed and no way is he going to start until BFP screws up.
As said above that will be Luton at the latest then

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Post by Darnhill Claret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:12 am

I’m sure VK has looked at the ‘character’ of his young defensive signings and decided that they are all strong minded enough for the rigours of the championship. Cork, Brownhill, Rodriquez and Barnes will help them on the pitch if required but to me Cullen and Bastien will ensure that no experienced opposition forward will exploit their seeming ‘inexperience. I think they will all prove themselves in that department.
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Post by jedi_master » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:16 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:04 am
Having thought about this, he was benched at Anderlecht. I’m not sure what will have changed to make him go straight in to our team unless they mistakenly believe the Championship is a much lower standard than the Belgian Pro League?

My expectation/hope would be that the up front contribution is very small, the guaranteed payment quite reasonable over a long period & the total potential value being the €5-6m reported, with those coming when he starts playing games.

Having said that he’ll probably be first choice!!
Perhaps Kompany was planning to play him as first choice this season before he left? We will have to wait and see but I'd be shocked (and concerned) if we are planning on having Peacock-Farrell as our Number 1 after a disappointing loan in League One with Sheff Weds.

I hasten to add, it's not my preference this - I'd have kept Hennessey 100% and been very happy with him as our first choice. I think when you have such a young central defence, it stands to reason that some experience in goal behind them would be hugely beneficial. It's asking for trouble IMO having a 19 year old keeper behind a 20 year old and a 19 year old (if we are to assume that it would be Harwood-Bellis and Egan-Riley at centre back from the off - and I believe it will be) pair of centre backs. I suppose the thing I am not mentioning there is that one of Cork or Cullen will be dropping in to support them, and possibly both will be screening them too.

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Post by SkiptonClaret » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:17 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:12 am
I’m sure VK has looked at the ‘character’ of his young defensive signings and decided that they are all strong minded enough for the rigours of the championship. Cork, Brownhill, Rodriquez and Barnes will help them on the pitch if required but to me Cullen and Bastien will ensure that no experienced opposition forward will exploit their seeming ‘inexperience. I think they will all prove themselves in that department.
I sincerely hope Barnes isn't spending too long on the pitch for us this season. Transfer window a part failure if he does.

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Post by bpgburn » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:18 am

AwayClaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:53 am
Posters on here aren't the bench mark 🤣 :D
How dare you!!

As this thread shows, we are blessed to have some of the finest footballing brains on this MB and I for one hope that VK refers to it on a daily basis to pick those brains.

I mean where else could you find out who is likely to leave the club purely by someone being able to interpret photos/videos of a players facial expressions?
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by Quicknick » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:19 am

northeastclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:45 am
Just checked and Verbruggen is 20 next month, a little bit more encouraging.
If VK thinks he is ready that good enough for me and hopefully from the first match , because BPF would be very much our weak link if he started.
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Re: Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

Post by It Is What It Is » Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:23 am

northeastclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:45 am
Just checked and Verbruggen is 20 next month, a little bit more encouraging.
If VK thinks he is ready that good enough for me and hopefully from the first match , because BPF would be very much our weak link if he started.
....Norris is an even weaker link.
The goal he conceded at Shrewsbury was schoolboy.

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