Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Vegas Claret]

Not that it was likely anyway but Fenerbache lost against Lille in their Champions League qualifier so it's even more unlikely they could afford Sander now.

[agreenwood]

Andros “we should have signed him” Townsend is off to Turkey.

Signing for Antalyaspor. Odd one.

[KlyBfc]

Twine has to stay until someone else can get in the squad who is homegrown.

I think with 9 subs if we only lose one out home grown senior players, the club could just have one of the academy lads on the bench each week. 8 is still more than enough to cover all bases whilst giving a young lad match day experience with the first team.

[ervi34]

I don't think Beyer will to be honest.

O'Shea looked better than him last year (certainly defensively) but I think one of the big things is that O'Shea will likely score a few headers and that will make a big impact on his valuation.

I'm not sure it's a fair to compare them.

Jordan Beyer played only 15 times for us in the PL. He featured at the start of the season where Kompany persisted with his crazy style that would make any defender struggle. By the time he became more pragmatic, Beyer was already struggling with injuries.

Remember how awful O'Shea looked in the first 15 games? It's also worth mentioning that he previously played in PL with WBA, unlike Beyer. But he improved as the time went on, and Beyer unfortunately couldn't do that.

[mkmel]

Andros “we should have signed him” Townsend is off to Turkey.

Signing for Antalyaspor. Odd one.

Thought he loved being at Luton?

Having said that wasn't he linked with a move to Turkey when he was training with us?

[agreenwood]

Thought he loved being at Luton?

Having said that wasn't he linked with a move to Turkey when he was training with us?

Once he signed a longer deal for Luton in January, he barely featured for them (played more than 60 mins just 3 times post December). He was sub again on Monday and Edwards only
saw fit to bring him on for the last 10 mins.

We made a lot of mistakes last summer, but failing to sign Townsend doesn’t look to have been one of them.

[wadeswondergoal]

Call me naive, but the club wouldn’t realise a 4 minute interview with DoS expressing his delight at the result and performance on Monday night if he was about to leave the club, surely?

[ervi34]

Call me naive, but the club wouldn’t realise a 4 minute interview with DoS expressing his delight at the result and performance on Monday night if he was about to leave the club, surely?

They did the similar thing Kompany.

[FeedTheArf]

Once he signed a longer deal for Luton in January, he barely featured for them (played more than 60 mins just 3 times post December). He was sub again on Monday and Edwards only
saw fit to bring him on for the last 10 mins.

We made a lot of mistakes last summer, but failing to sign Townsend doesn’t look to have been one of them.

Add to that he’s probably one of their higher earners then it makes perfect sense to move him on.

[wadeswondergoal]

They did the similar thing Kompany.

Valid point. They won’t make the same mistake twice will they?

[123EasyasBFC]

They did the similar thing Kompany.

Even worst with the kompany one it was clearly before the forest game where the interview took place so the club will of scheduled it’s release and could of easily pulled it

[brazilianclaret]

I'm not sure it's a fair to compare them.

Jordan Beyer played only 15 times for us in the PL. He featured at the start of the season where Kompany persisted with his crazy style that would make any defender struggle. By the time he became more pragmatic, Beyer was already struggling with injuries.

Remember how awful O'Shea looked in the first 15 games? It's also worth mentioning that he previously played in PL with WBA, unlike Beyer. But he improved as the time went on, and Beyer unfortunately couldn't do that.

And he played on the left hand side of the two which although he did play there most of the championship season he does prefer the right and the problems and musical chairs at left back won't have helped him!

[spt_claret]

I'm not sure it's a fair to compare them.

Jordan Beyer played only 15 times for us in the PL. He featured at the start of the season where Kompany persisted with his crazy style that would make any defender struggle. By the time he became more pragmatic, Beyer was already struggling with injuries.

Remember how awful O'Shea looked in the first 15 games? It's also worth mentioning that he previously played in PL with WBA, unlike Beyer. But he improved as the time went on, and Beyer unfortunately couldn't do that.

O'Shea looked bad for more than 15 games I'd say, he had a strong second half to the season but a very ropey first half.
Beyer also had the problems of:
-not playing on his natural right side (granted he played left a lot in the championship but different kettle of fish)
-rarely having a settled or natural LB besides him (we saw AAD, Delacroix, Roberts and Vitinho all play there before Taylor)
-general defensive organisation with similar RB shuffling problems
-A less confident keeper behind him in a very inexperienced and young Trafford (regardless of debates over quality it's hard to argue that Muric wasn't the more experienced/confident/braver keeper)

It's the same as Ekdal faced. He had a bad game at Fulham but was on his weaker side against a fast attacking line with Vitinho on the wrong side at LB and an at the time defensively anonymous Odobert at left wing. The pair of them and AAD got hung out to dry by Kompany trying to overcomplicate his setup and got injured before he got any grip, it's no wonder they didn't look as good.

[fatboy47]

If all our players were fit and playing in their best positions then Dara wouldn't be in our best three CH's.

IMO.

[Quickenthetempo]

If all our players were fit and playing in their best positions then Dara wouldn't be in our best three CH's.

IMO.

He's the quickest and chips in with goals from corners.

He came through the toughest test well on Monday night.

[burnley007]

If all our players were fit and playing in their best positions then Dara wouldn't be in our best three CH's.

IMO.

Occasionally on here I find it difficult to comprehend what I am reading.

This is one of those occasions.

[elwaclaret]

Occasionally on here I find it difficult to comprehend what I am reading.

This is one of those occasions.

Football is about opinions, I don’t share his by a country mile.

[Quicknick]

If all our players were fit and playing in their best positions then Dara wouldn't be in our best three CH's.

IMO.

The point is they aren't fit, and I wonder whether they ever will be consistently. O'Shea seems to be made of sterner stuff. Plus he's a leader. Easily our best CH.

[steve1264b]

Utd in for DeJong and Barca willing to sell, Ugarte keen on a utd move and his agent has arrived in Manchester.

Be surprised if Berge was still on the list.

Berge not going will mean we will probably have to sell somone for good money.

[kentonclaret]

On the BBC Gossip page it says that talks are progressing between Brentford and Burnley for the transfer of Darra O’Shea, which will result in Burnley seeing a profit on the £7m they paid to sign him from WBA.
At the very top of the Gossip page the headline states that Brentford are standing firm on their £60m fee required to see Ivan Toney leave the club. Brentford paid Peterborough £4m for Ivan Toney. That doesn’t mean they will be asking any less for the player when he leaves.

[Quickenthetempo]

On the BBC Gossip page it says that talks are progressing between Brentford and Burnley for the transfer of Darra O’Shea, which will result in Burnley seeing a profit on the £7m they paid to sign him from WBA.
At the very top of the Gossip page the headline states that Brentford are standing firm on their £60m fee required to see Ivan Toney leave the club. Brentford paid Peterborough £4m for Ivan Toney. That doesn’t mean they will be asking any less for the player when he leaves.

Every media outlet just repeats the same stuff.

There's about 3 journalists that actually do any digging.

[ElectroClaret]

On the BBC Gossip page it says that talks are progressing between Brentford and Burnley for the transfer of Darra O’Shea...

Really wouldn't like to see this, just hope it's lazy gossip.

[ClaretTony]

If all our players were fit and playing in their best positions then Dara wouldn't be in our best three CH's.

IMO.

He definitely would for me - he'd be in our best one

[ClaretTony]

On the BBC Gossip page it says that talks are progressing between Brentford and Burnley for the transfer of Darra O’Shea, which will result in Burnley seeing a profit on the £7m they paid to sign him from WBA.

SSN reporting that we are in talks too although apart on our valuation of him

[Bordeauxclaret]

Good to see Alan playing hardball again.

[kentonclaret]

SSN reporting that we are in talks too although apart on our valuation of him

Brentford are reportedly standing firm on their £60m valuation fee for Ivan Toney and Alan Pace must be just as resolute on the fee that we require for O’Shea. Judged on his display on Monday night he could be the difference between us getting promoted or spending another season in the Championship.

[CFS]

Let's not get carried away Luton were extremely poor.

[Woodleyclaret]

We were superb stopping Luton getting their game together and thrashing them.

[mkmel]

O'Shea and Esteve our best two centre backs IMO.

And they give us a good balance and have formed a good partnership.

[ElectroClaret]

Ben Mee 35 next month, I'm assuming that's one of the reasons Brentford are after strengthening their back line.

Or is BM not first choice any more?

[Goliath]

Good to see Alan playing hardball again.

'Would you take 7 million and four?'

[claretskeith]

We were superb stopping Luton getting their game together and thrashing them.

Yep. Why do some fans always say the opposition were poor, when we win. I'm quite sure Luton will be hunting down a top 6 place come the end of the season.

[Selby Claret]

'Would you take 7 million and four?'

lovely stuff

[123EasyasBFC]

Let's not get carried away Luton were extremely poor.

This weekend will be a better indicator to how good any first weekend results were, but it doesn’t take away from how we played and we can get every better

[agreenwood]

Swiss media outlet Blik reporting that we’re trying to shift out Amdouni.

Little bit speculative, but here you go..

https://www.blick.ch/sport/bei-burnley- ... 35947.html

[Bowclaret]

Hate to see the lad leave. He’s been awesome for us after a tricky start however, if he goes we should get north of 30M for him - he’s that good and crucial to us going back up.

BUT, I see Brentford and obviously Ipswich struggling this season - big decision for the lad !

[Swizzlestick]

Let's not get carried away Luton were extremely poor.

It's possible to nullify teams and make them look poor too. Mengi, Ogbene, Doughty, Morris, Chong, Adebayo all featured regularly last season. Was impressed with the tactical tweaks employed that limited their opportunities.

[RVclaret]

Swiss media outlet Blik reporting that we’re trying to shift out Amdouni.

Little bit speculative, but here you go..

https://www.blick.ch/sport/bei-burnley- ... 35947.html

As long as Odobert stays i’m fine with this (if true).

[Tall Paul]

Really wouldn't like to see this, just hope it's lazy gossip.

It's just a link to the McGrath/Percy article that was discussed on here yesterday.

[Ric_C]

Wouldn't be against that if we can get back what we paid for Amdouni

[wadeswondergoal]

Swiss media outlet Blik reporting that we’re trying to shift out Amdouni.

Little bit speculative, but here you go..

https://www.blick.ch/sport/bei-burnley- ... 35947.html

It’s a tenuous link based on him being fit but not selected on Monday night. I’m interested to see who’s in the squad on Saturday.

[clarets1978]

Swiss media outlet Blik reporting that we’re trying to shift out Amdouni.

Little bit speculative, but here you go..

https://www.blick.ch/sport/bei-burnley- ... 35947.html

To be fair I found the google translate of this article more entertaining than the actual subject but I think you're right. Doesn't really say a lot at all

[Bowclaret]

It’s a tenuous link based on him being fit but not selected on Monday night. I’m interested to see who’s in the squad on Saturday.

Me too. For example, if Berge is fit, does he start ? Interesting !

For me, definitely.

[clarets1978]

It’s a tenuous link based on him being fit but not selected on Monday night. I’m interested to see who’s in the squad on Saturday.

They could have done an article on the invisible man nobody talks about as well. Hans Delcroix. no preseason games, has a squad number, wasnt mentioned as missing or injured by Scott Parker.

[clarets1978]

Me too. For example, if Berge is fit, does he start ? Interesting !

For me, definitely.

Imagine if Berge had played on Monday night, Fosters run for the 4th would have been regular throughout the game

[whiffa]

Me too. For example, if Berge is fit, does he start ? Interesting !

For me, definitely.

I agree, but who do you drop? Odobert and push Brownhill up? Or drop Brownhill who just had a great game and scored a goal? Tough one. Plus we've Amdouni to come back in.

[Bowclaret]

I agree, but who do you drop? Odobert and push Brownhill up? Or drop Brownhill who just had a great game and scored a goal? Tough one. Plus we've Amdouni to come back in.

Very tricky and controversial but I would drop Vitinho to get Berge in this team and play Brownhill more right hand side.

Great choice for our Head Coach but again very tricky

[Commy]

Sky Sports now saying that Brentford haven't met our valuation of O'Shea. From what I saw on Mission to Burnley 2 with standing our ground with money for Kompany, I think we are going to do that with the players as well. About time we dug our heels in. It also looks like the players (Wout, Berge, Odobert and O'Shea) are, at the minute, being very professional about it.

[NewClaret]

SSN reporting that we are in talks too although apart on our valuation of him

The ‘in talks’ phrase always makes me laugh. What is there to talk about?

My ‘talks’ would sound like: “we value him at £20m. That’s what you’ll have to pay to secure him. Don’t bother calling us unless you’re willing to pay that”.

Then they either call with an offer or don’t. That’d keep the talks nice and efficient

[Stproc]

If all our players were fit and playing in their best positions then Dara wouldn't be in our best three CH's.

IMO.

He’s easily in the best 2.