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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:54 am
But we are likely to sign a clear upgrade on Chris Wood.
Some of the more naive posters thought orsic was in the bag let’s wait & see what actually happens & believe in twitter less & believe in reality more.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 am

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:00 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:38 am
And you know exactly what happened here do you? If so, you're the only one.

Alan Pace flew to Zagreb himself to try and get this over the line, so don't blame him.
I only have the same information as everyone else out there that journalists are saying.

Even you must be concerned that it took 6 days to negotiate a £7m deal that ended in failure.

6 days for a small deal when we have just had 25m given to us upfront.

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Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:06 am
Dinamo would look pretty silly if they allowed a deal to go through now after this morning’s announcement.
Yes, that's true.
However, maybe the extra dosh would no doubt be some compensation for their embarrassment.

They'd get over it.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:01 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 am
Some of the more naive posters thought orsic was in the bag let’s wait & see what actually happens & believe in twitter less & believe in reality more.
Well how on earth did we manage to sign Cornet then?
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:02 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:00 pm
I only have the same information as everyone else out there that journalists are saying.

Even you must be concerned that it took 6 days to negotiate a £7m deal that ended in failure.

6 days for a small deal when we have just had 25m given to us upfront.
If there was a suggestion this morning that money was an issue you’d have a point. There isn’t.

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Post by Carport » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:02 pm

Lancs Live understands the deal was pretty much finalised, including a fee, but the player had a change of heart.

If that is true he must surely have been nobbled by the Ultras?

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:03 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:01 pm
Well how on earth did we manage to sign Cornet then?
Have we paid for him yet? I’m not suggesting we won’t.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:03 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:02 pm
If there was a suggestion this morning that money was an issue you’d have a point. There isn’t.
The Croatian journo tweeted

''Dinamo rejected €10m offer from @BurnleyOfficial. ''

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:05 pm

If the player had a change of heart you would have thought the statement would reflect that, it reads more like the club wouldn’t let him go.

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Post by RicardoMontalban » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:03 pm
The Croatian journo tweeted

''Dinamo rejected €10m offer from @BurnleyOfficial. ''
That doesn’t suggest money was the issue. All that says is the bid was ultimately rejected.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:06 pm

:lol:
arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 am
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Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:06 pm

Plan B, oh if only Plan B, do we have Plan B, Plan B, if only Plan B

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:07 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 am
Some of the more naive posters thought orsic was in the bag let’s wait & see what actually happens & believe in twitter less & believe in reality more.
No signing is in the bag until it’s done but I was of the opinion that this one was all but done. I’ve posted previously today that this morning’s announcement from Dinamo has amazed me given what I’d been told.

Doesn’t make me naive at all though. I was getting information from trusted sources. I believe those sources are as amazed as I am today.

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Post by HahaYeah » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:10 pm

Are players not ever allowed to leave DZ? :roll:

Are these bad blue boys really so terrifying?

Maybe there's a less dramatic emotional and more mundane explanation for what's gone on.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:11 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:03 pm
Have we paid for him yet? I’m not suggesting we won’t.
Eh? Cornet is registered to us. He's our player, whether we pay or not.

Do you think Lyon can suddenly take Cornet back?

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:11 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:02 pm
If there was a suggestion this morning that money was an issue you’d have a point. There isn’t.
Some have blamed the club, some have blamed the player.

But not once was it ever reported we had agreed a fee.

I'm sure it will all come out.

2 and a half days left. Please be quicker Alan.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:07 pm
No signing is in the bag until it’s done but I was of the opinion that this one was all but done. I’ve posted previously today that this morning’s announcement from Dinamo has amazed me given what I’d been told.

Doesn’t make me naive at all though. I was getting information from trusted sources. I believe those sources are as amazed as I am today.
Do we have a back up plan in place to move on to another target now there’s no orsic?

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:12 pm

Not rocket science. Club had a change of heart due to fan pressure and the risk of losing Champions League dosh. Player must be gutted, but he won’t make a fuss when he’s a international playing for the same fans.

The crux here is do we have a plan B. Persuading Man U to give us Lingard for 5 months would be brilliant, ditto Ramsay. A player in the hole could mean a stronger midfield and Cornet out wide (Dyche worries about tracking back but we are reaching a point where at home as a minimum we need attacking power). So we shall see.

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Post by ClaretAL » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:13 pm

To be fair the lad is probably scared witless for his family who live there with some of the comments and threats their ultras were throwing around
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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:14 pm

onewillieirvine wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:56 am
Good job this board wasn't about in the 60's I don't think we paid money for a player from Alex Elder in 1959 to Frank Casper in 1967 😲 I've got faith in Mr Pace to come up with the goods.
Good job it wasn't around in the 60s/70s you would have got slaughtered saying that about the chairman of the football club.
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Post by Rombald » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:59 am
Some of the more naive posters thought orsic was in the bag let’s wait & see what actually happens & believe in twitter less & believe in reality more.
Wise words. Perhaps you could use the same logic for your ill thought out guessing about the clubs finances, transfer dealings etc
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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 pm

Just for my own clarity - if a fee had been agreed and we were therefore at contract stage, could DZ still back out, or is the acceptance of the fee a contract in and of itself?

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 pm

onewillieirvine wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:56 am
Good job this board wasn't about in the 60's I don't think we paid money for a player from Alex Elder in 1959 to Frank Casper in 1967 😲 I've got faith in Mr Pace to come up with the goods.
That’s spot on - hard to believe now but over eight years without a signing.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:19 pm

Rombald wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 pm
Wise words. Perhaps you could use the same logic for your ill thought out guessing about the clubs finances, transfer dealings etc
Like I’ve always said let’s just see what happens, we will know more about the window in February.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:20 pm

We should have sent Dyche out to batter the ultras.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:20 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 pm
Just for my own clarity - if a fee had been agreed and we were therefore at contract stage, could DZ still back out, or is the acceptance of the fee a contract in and of itself?
Anyone can back out at any stage. If we look back a few years we had both Dorrans and Lansbury sat at the Turf with everything agreed and then their respective clubs pulling the plug.

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Post by Mala591 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:22 pm

The sun’s come out in Burnley! Quick, roll out Weghorst with his Claret & Blue scarf on!

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Post by Indecisive » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:22 pm

Is the consensus now that the Wout signing is the one ‘likely’ one and the other potential (although I think to most people viewed as a real long shot) is Ramsey?

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Post by onewillieirvine » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm

Mind you CT it was worth the wait, Frank Casper was a great signing for us. Signing a player of his ilk would go down well this weekend. I expect Mr Pace will be a busy man.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:11 pm
Eh? Cornet is registered to us. He's our player, whether we pay or not.

Do you think Lyon can suddenly take Cornet back?
That’s very true I won’t argue with any of that but facts are facts & there’s a debt outstanding in him put it this way if we wasn’t to honour that debt we would be chased for the money & legal action would be forthcoming.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm

The more info that comes out, the more its obvious that BFC couldn't do anything else

it happens sadly

Course, if you are in the habit of blaming BFC and the board for everything, then you won't believe it, but to be honest, no one really cares if you do or don't as blaming BFC and the board for everything tends to be a bit wearying to read after a while

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm

Indecisive wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:22 pm
Is the consensus now that the Wout signing is the one ‘likely’ one and the other potential (although I think to most people viewed as a real long shot) is Ramsey?
Yep

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:24 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:19 pm
Like I’ve always said let’s just see what happens, we will know more about the window in February.
If you say that, try doing it, as opposed to continually peddling your ill informed conjecture.

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Post by Goody1975 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:25 pm

One small positive is that this has happened on Saturday morning and not Monday morning.

Alan will keep chipping away and we'll see where we are on Monday night, hopefully far stronger than we are now.

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Post by IWOODLOVETT » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:20 pm
Anyone can back out at any stage. If we look back a few years we had both Dorrans and Lansbury sat at the Turf with everything agreed and then their respective clubs pulling the plug.
Yes, but our Ultras were sitting in the Bob Lord stand drinking cocoa. 😳
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Post by minnieclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:25 pm

He’s contracted to DZ, this is on them.
I hope he stubs his toe tonight and can’t play tomorrow or better still bangs in an OG from 30yds.
I’d still have him in Summer, he’s a player.
I’m in Zagreb in May I'll pop round and have a word.
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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:26 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:24 pm
If you say that, try doing it, as opposed to continually peddling your ill informed conjecture.
But this “conjecture” will it transpire into the truth in February.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:26 pm

I’m sure Alan has suffered from several break downs in large deals throughout his career on Wall Street and by nature won’t be a quitter. I still have faith.

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Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:26 pm

There's always Jack Wilshire.

I'll get mi coat.

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Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:27 pm

lol Jakub
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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:20 pm
Anyone can back out at any stage. If we look back a few years we had both Dorrans and Lansbury sat at the Turf with everything agreed and then their respective clubs pulling the plug.
In the final stages of a transfer then I presume a contract is also signed between the two clubs agreeing to the fees and what not.
So its entirely possible that Osric had signed a contract with us and then had the rug pulled from under him by his own chairman.

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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:28 pm

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:26 pm
There's always Jack Wilshire.

I'll get mi coat.
Looking weirdly tempting, like a 5/10 at closing time on a saturday night.

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Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:30 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm
The more info that comes out, the more its obvious that BFC couldn't do anything else

it happens sadly

Course, if you are in the habit of blaming BFC and the board for everything, then you won't believe it, but to be honest, no one really cares if you do or don't as blaming BFC and the board for everything tends to be a bit wearying to read after a while
Yes but, we are still a boat without the right paddles and we are heading down the river!

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Post by Papabendi » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:30 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:12 pm
Not rocket science. Club had a change of heart due to fan pressure and the risk of losing Champions League dosh. Player must be gutted, but he won’t make a fuss when he’s a international playing for the same fans.

The crux here is do we have a plan B. Persuading Man U to give us Lingard for 5 months would be brilliant, ditto Ramsay. A player in the hole could mean a stronger midfield and Cornet out wide (Dyche worries about tracking back but we are reaching a point where at home as a minimum we need attacking power). So we shall see.
Does anyone really believe either Lingard or Ramsey want to come to Burnley. I don't.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:30 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:26 pm
But this “conjecture” will it transpire into the truth in February.
Like I’ve always said let’s just see what happens, we will know more about the window in February.

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Post by Conroy92 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:31 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:56 am
Imagine the throbber meltdown if we don't sign Weghorst. :mrgreen:
Aye, would be funny to see fans unhappy with two main targets falling through two days before the window shuts and our main striker sold. Or not.
Grow up.

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Post by Carport » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:31 pm

Wilshere anyone? Playmaker we’re looking for similar to Defour but too injury prone? Big article in DM yesterday saying he is looking for a PL club.

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Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:18 pm
That’s spot on - hard to believe now but over eight years without a signing.
Without wishing to become the persistent purveyor of doom we won the first division championship in 1959 by 1967 we had become a middle ranking team heading towards relegation in 70/71.

Doom doom where's Captain Mainwaring when you need him....!

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Post by DuckworthsEA » Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:33 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 29, 2022 12:23 pm
That’s very true I won’t argue with any of that but facts are facts & there’s a debt outstanding in him put it this way if we wasn’t to honour that debt we would be chased for the money & legal action would be forthcoming.
As is the exact same for nearly every single footballer.

So what’s the point you’re trying to make?
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