Ashes third test

[Taffy on the wing]

Come on ....let's get to stumps.

[criminalclaret]

He will not change, you can post as much as you like.

My 16 year old now loves test cricket BECAUSE of this new style.

This agreesive style aka BazBall is great when applied properly. It's braindead when not.

1nd innings day 2 chasing 500+ = Have every batsman go for it.

2nd innings day 3 chasing 251 to win with 2 days remaining on a swinging pitch = chill your beans, tip away the runs and the win will come at a canter.

Duckett has edges 3 times to slip, how much longer before he's walking...

[Quickenthetempo]

Great session for England.

27 runs chipped off tonight.

Big chance for England now.

[Dressinggown]

You cannot rely on one approach to every scenario that Test cricket throws at you.

We are still 2-0 down in the series.

[equinox]

This agreesive style aka BazBall is great when applied properly. It's braindead when not.

1nd innings day 2 chasing 500+ = Have every batsman go for it.

2nd innings day 3 chasing 251 to win with 2 days remaining on a swinging pitch = chill your beans, tip away the runs and the win will come at a canter.

Duckett has edges 3 times to slip, how much longer before he's walking...

It's not a tap though.

Think of Test cricket before this new attacking ethos?

[summitclaret]

Well we have 2 days to get um. Any batter throwing their wicket away should be put in the stocks and pelted with rotten

[CoolClaret]

You cannot rely on one approach to every scenario that Test cricket throws at you.

We are still 2-0 down in the series.

Basically this -

Played with plenty aggression like in 2005 but with less of the brain dead stuff.

Flintoff and KP in particularly, at Edgbaston and the Oval respectively batting with the middle order/tail aggressively… KP in particularly properly counter punching and taking the chance of a series draw away from the Aussies with a spectacular 158 off 187

[bfcjg]

The weather forecast will to a certain extent dictate our approach.

[dandeclaret]

Just do the bits where you score all the runs quickly, but don't do the shots that get you out.... got it?


Not easy those 5 overs tonight, ball moving about under helpful condiitions, and they got their bit of overdue luck. Hopefully they can win it tomorrow, but as ever, it will be a game of fine margins, hopefully they come out of it the right side this time.

[criminalclaret]

It's not a tap though.

Think of Test cricket before this new attacking ethos?

It's all about balance. Test cricket is a marathon not a sprint. Knowing when to turn on the heat on your opponents and when to ride out a storm are crucial to a batsman.

That was a phenomenal session from England. Great wickets coming from swinging ball on dark conditions.

If I'm opening the batting in that scenario, I've remembering all of those key wickets given away over the last hour and putting that in my head. I'm telling myself I have unlimited time at the crease, trying to play any turning ball as straight as possible and tip away for singles rotating strike / frustrating the bowler and captain field.That's smart play.

If forget about all those wickets and just keep pinging them at 8 an over, it's great fun, but it's more than likely gonna bite me on the arse.

Gimme a 80-1 after 20 over tipping away over 45-3 after 10 with 2 days play

[Rileybobs]

It's all about balance. Test cricket is a marathon not a sprint. Knowing when to turn on the heat on your opponents and when to ride out a storm are crucial to a batsman.

That was a phenomenal session from England. Great wickets coming from swinging ball on dark conditions.

If I'm opening the batting in that scenario, I've remembering all of those key wickets given away over the last hour and putting that in my head. I'm telling myself I have unlimited time at the crease, trying to play any turning ball as straight as possible and tip away for singles rotating strike / frustrating the bowler and captain field.That's smart play.

If forget about all those wickets and just keep pinging them at 8 an over, it's great fun, but it's more than likely gonna bite me on the arse.

Gimme a 80-1 after 20 over tipping away over 45-3 after 10 with 2 days play

Give me 27-0 over 7-0 at the close of play.

[summitclaret]

Just do the bits where you score all the runs quickly, but don't do the shots that get you out.... got it?


Not easy those 5 overs tonight, ball moving about under helpful condiitions, and they got their bit of overdue luck. Hopefully they can win it tomorrow, but as ever, it will be a game of fine margins, hopefully they come out of it the right side this time.

There is no need to score quickly. Just pick up ones and two and thump the bad ball. Proper cricket is the Ashes, especially when 2 nil down and I have a day 3 ticket for OT.

[Tribesmen]

Look win tomorrow , get Jimmy back at OT and dreams can come true .

[Lancasterclaret]

That really is superb bowling and fielding in that 2nd Inns by England

Under huge pressure as well

Its not going to be easy, but you'd fancy England from here

[summitclaret]

Give me 27-0 over 7-0 at the close of play.

Only the 0 mattered tonight. However, the 27 is a bonus.

[Rileybobs]

Only the 0 mattered tonight. However, the 27 is a bonus.

Both make tomorrow's task appear much more achievable.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Look win tomorrow , get Jimmy back at OT and dreams can come true .

I guess Jimmy could come in for Robinson. Tbh I would rather we played tongue

[equinox]

Give me 27-0 over 7-0 at the close of play.

Give me (and my son) giving a sh1t about test cricket rather than not.

This series is ridiculous, every session is fascinating.

[criminalclaret]

All forecasts suggest tomorrow be cloudy but mainly dry, maybe the early morning shower. Possibility to get all 90 overs in. Monday a bit more unknown.

Seamers dream tomorrow. We need concentrating batsman at the crease.

We have unlimited time to win this game is we play it smart and make a fantastic atmosphere at Old Trafford for the next test.

[Taffy on the wing]

Just do the bits where you score all the runs quickly, but don't do the shots that get you out.... got it?


Not easy those 5 overs tonight, ball moving about under helpful condiitions, and they got their bit of overdue luck. Hopefully they can win it tomorrow, but as ever, it will be a game of fine margins, hopefully they come out of it the right side this time.

Duckett got lucky a couple of times .....the Aussies have had most of the luck so far.
Hopefully things will change & we get a famous 3-2 Ashes win.

[kentonclaret]

Duckett got lucky a couple of times .....the Aussies have had most of the luck so far.
Hopefully things will change & we get a famous 3-2 Ashes win.

Apart from losing the toss of a coin 3 times

[Darnhill Claret]

Only 2 more tosses to win or lose. There won't be a 5th day in this test match.

[Burnley1989]

Apart from losing the toss of a coin 3 times

We’ve had allllll the luck, nonsense to suggest otherwise

[Ampth7]

Not going to get a better chance than this to win a test match against the Aussies! First hour tomorrow is absolutely vital if we are to have a chance of winning.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not going to get a better chance than this to win a test match against the Aussies! First hour tomorrow is absolutely vital if we are to have a chance of winning.

I agree if Crawley and Duckett can see out the first hour we won’t be a kick in the arse away

[bfcjg]

It's the optimism that kills you

[Quickenthetempo]

Win viz has England at 75%

Smile for once

[TheFamilyCat]

Just back from Headingley. Frustrating weather but the cricket was worth waiting for. Delighted to have bowled them out and to get to the close without losing a wicket, but......

I feel we are chasing 30-40 more than we should be due to the tactics against Head. I've no idea what he has done that makes England think they couldn't get him out by bowling line and length in very helpful conditions.

Hopefully we knock the off tomorrow and it doesn't matter.

[Quickenthetempo]

Just back from Headingley. Frustrating weather but the cricket was worth waiting for. Delighted to have bowled them out and to get to the close without losing a wicket, but......

I feel we are chasing 30-40 more than we should be due to the tactics against Head. I've no idea what he has done that makes England think they couldn't get him out by bowling line and length in very helpful conditions.

Hopefully we knock the off tomorrow and it doesn't matter.

The 30 runs you think we lost was wrestled back in the short batting period.

Travis Head is a very clean hitter of a cricket ball. Think Stokes but a far higher rated batsman.

[fatboy47]

I guess Jimmy could come in for Robinson. Tbh I would rather we played tongue

Thank god you're not a selector then.

Jimmy. was played twice on lifeless corporate pitches. There's a reason he's got 700 wickets.....and I believe he'd have been pretty lethal on the current patch.

If he's fit and rested for OT then he plays...no question at all. He might even be allowed a proper wicket keeper.

[Quickenthetempo]

Thank god you're not a selector then.

Jimmy. was played twice on lifeless corporate pitches. There's a reason he's got 700 wickets.....and I believe he'd have been pretty lethal on the current patch.

If he's fit and rested for OT then he plays...no question at all. He might even be allowed a proper wicket keeper.

Broad and Robinson will be rested.

Anderson and Tongue in

[Newcastleclaret93]

Thank god you're not a selector then.

Jimmy. was played twice on lifeless corporate pitches. There's a reason he's got 700 wickets.....and I believe he'd have been pretty lethal on the current patch.

If he's fit and rested for OT then he plays...no question at all. He might even be allowed a proper wicket keeper.

Jimmy has had two shocking test matches. I wouldn’t be against playing him but I think Tongue is in better form.

[taio]

Broad and Robinson will be rested.

Anderson and Tongue in

Broad will not be rested

[Newcastleclaret93]

Broad and Robinson will be rested.

Anderson and Tongue in

I think there is almost zero chance Broad gets rested he’s bowling far too well

[Quickenthetempo]

Broad will not be rested

Old Trafford has pace, bounce and spin.

Broad and Jimmy can't both play together and Stokes already said Jimmy will be back in.

[nil_desperandum]

I feel we are chasing 30-40 more than we should be due to the tactics against Head. I've no idea what he has done that makes England think they couldn't get him out by bowling line and length in very helpful conditions.

I was out and recorded it, and have only just finished watching. The 27-0 was v important and a great relief, but like you, I was baffled by England's decision to start bowling short stuff at Head when we were looking like getting wickets almost every over by simply continuing to bowl good old-fashioned line and length in what were, as you say, helpful conditions. It's been v small margins in the first two tests, let's hope that this decision doesn't cost us.

[taio]

Old Trafford has pace, bounce and spin.

Broad and Jimmy can't both play together and Stokes already said Jimmy will be back in.

If we win this test there is zero chance Broad will be dropped

[nil_desperandum]

Old Trafford has pace, bounce and spin.

Broad and Jimmy can't both play together

Why? They've done it before, on rather a lot of occasions.
Anderson, Broad, Wood and Woakes would be a good unit at Old Trafford (if Broad feels fit enough).

[Quickenthetempo]

I think there is almost zero chance Broad gets rested he’s bowling far too well

We will see.

I called the 3 Aussie changes right for this Test, two of Englands. But had Woakes down to play Lords. (Which we would have won easy, if he was in the team with his record there.)

[taio]

Complete nonsense

[fatboy47]

Why? They've done it before, on rather a lot of occasions.
Anderson, Broad, Wood and Woakes would be a good unit at Old Trafford (if Broad feels fit enough).

Good call.
I'd bet my shirt that the above happens.

[Quickenthetempo]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/records/gr ... -matches-1
Just been doing a bit of digging for Old Trafford as I wasn't convinced Jimmy had the best of records there. Decent record with an average of 22.

But Woakes and Mo Ali both average 18 there.

[Quickenthetempo]

As for Broad. He's 37 and just played 3 on Tests on the bounce.

The bowling department is holding on by a thread, we would be stupid to risk him.

[Vino blanco]

Old Trafford has pace, bounce and spin.

Broad and Jimmy can't both play together and Stokes already said Jimmy will be back in.

“Broad and Jimmy can’t both play together “, ...well they’ve been playing together for the last 17 years I think it is and they have taken just short of 1,300 wickets together, so they must be doing something very right together.

[Clive 1960]

Play proper cricket and we will win also we'll done to all the bowler's putting in a shift with us one bowler down . Looking forward later today.

[Ric_C]

It feel like we've pulled this out of the bag, whilst being a bowler down and under the pump at one stage. Basically roles reversed from the last test. I hope I'm right.

[fatboy47]

We can safely rule out the draw now.

Today's really our last chance to keep the series alive. If we can wear down their attack by leaving the short stuff, and everything from the 5th stump outwards then we can chase this down.

If the Aussies produce 10 unplayable snorters then we'll have to hold our hands up and take it on the chin. But if we simply hand it to them with a continuation of our gormless dim-witted nonsense, then going forwards, we probably need to look for some changes at the top.

[Quickenthetempo]

“Broad and Jimmy can’t both play together “, ...well they’ve been playing together for the last 17 years I think it is and they have taken just short of 1,300 wickets together, so they must be doing something very right together.

Oh they have been superb over the years together.

But both are just about reaching 80mph with fitness issues. And as explained will be playing on the fastest and bounciest pitch in the country.

We have huge fitness issues in the bowling department where our bowlers are struggling to complete games.

[matttheclaret]

14 wickets in the series for Broad so far isn't it? Joint most with Cummins.

If we get the runs today and the series is still alive, no way Broad is rested for Old Trafford

[Longsidelenny1882]

For me jimmy tongue foakes in for broad Robinson and bairstow upthecolne