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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by FeedTheArf » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:42 am

claretlegend wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:26 am
The Senegalese striker looks a real handful. I can't see us beating Man United and Brentford to him though.

Done anyone know what Nixon headline of 'Burnley, Stevenage want keeper' is about?
Green perhaps? Can’t see either of Hladky or Green wanting to be 4th choice.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 am

If we get Cajuste, I think that's us done for CM. I do see the argument for another given we would be one injury away from Laurent starting and two injuries away from a really bad situation in the deeper roles.

But I can see Parker trying to trim the squad from here (minus a striker) and taking that risk. We do have Bauress in emergency reserve, though that's a big ask of him he obviously has quality.

One caveat is perhaps we get an old head on loan, with good experience and someone happy to get less game time. Not Jack Cork, but a slightly younger version who's been there and seen a scrap.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:55 am

Don’t know if anyone has put it already but apparently Luca is off the Espanyol on loan ….

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:56 am

I don't know much about Johnstone apart from his highlights reel on Youtube is all in a single match against Leeds, and he has played a grand total of 36 games in the last 4 years. Why do we think he is so good? What is he like with his distribution?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:57 am

The Shire Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:55 am
Don’t know if anyone has put it already but apparently Luca is off the Espanyol on loan ….
That seems a sensible move for him and us.
As long as it's only a loan!!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:59 am

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:57 am
That seems a sensible move for him and us.
As long as it's only a loan!!
I would add that I hope we have a recall option too! Of he's on fire come January, and our wingers are not, it would be good to have the ability to bring him back.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:59 am

Johnstone is one of those keepers who has never quite established himself at Premier League level, but he's got a good reputation and at 32 still has time on his side as a keeper. His career is a bit reminiscent of Tom Heaton in many respects.

I'm fairly sure he'll have played quite a bit of football both at United and Villa with Tuanzebe, which might be helpful. He's also been in England squads with Walker. Those links help, particularly when a new keeper needs to build a unit with his defence in the space of about a fortnight before the season.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:02 am

His stats in the Premier League for all time are:

73 Games, 128 conceded, 15 saves.

I could be reading TransferMarkt wrong, but that is what it seems to show.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:03 am

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:02 am
His stats in the Premier League for all time are:

73 Games, 128 conceded, 15 saves.

I could be reading TransferMarkt wrong, but that is what it seems to show.
15 saves has to be wrong surely!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:05 am

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:02 am
His stats in the Premier League for all time are:

73 Games, 128 conceded, 15 saves.

I could be reading TransferMarkt wrong, but that is what it seems to show.
I'm very confident he'll have made many, many more saves than 15 from 73 games!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnmark » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:06 am

claretlegend wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:26 am
The Senegalese striker looks a real handful. I can't see us beating Man United and Brentford to him though.

Done anyone know what Nixon headline of 'Burnley, Stevenage want keeper' is about?
It’s a typo. It’s should read ‘Burton, Stevenage want keeper’

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:07 am

taio wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:05 am
I'm very confident he'll have made many, many more saves than 15 from 73 games!
I'd hope actually the only stat that's correct there is games played

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:08 am

BigGaz wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:04 am
I've been told that Cajuste is far more advanced than what is currently being reported, IE practically done.
I was hopeful until you posted

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:08 am

The Shire Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:55 am
Don’t know if anyone has put it already but apparently Luca is off the Espanyol on loan ….
Bad decisions if true
Unless we get in a replacement that is
Just a sweetener for Espanyol, imo
Weakens our options, pace is always an option, to me, late on in a game

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Re: Summer transfer window

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:10 am

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:07 am
I'd hope actually the only stat that's correct there is games played
The conceded goals is right. 15 is clean sheets.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:14 am

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:54 am
If we get Cajuste, I think that's us done for CM. I do see the argument for another given we would be one injury away from Laurent starting and two injuries away from a really bad situation in the deeper roles.

But I can see Parker trying to trim the squad from here (minus a striker) and taking that risk. We do have Bauress in emergency reserve, though that's a big ask of him he obviously has quality.

One caveat is perhaps we get an old head on loan, with good experience and someone happy to get less game time. Not Jack Cork, but a slightly younger version who's been there and seen a scrap.
As it stands should we sign Cajuste, we would have him, Cullen, Hannibal and Laurent as front line players comfortable in a midfield two, plus Ramsey who can play there but is probably more comfortable slightly further forwards and in any event has a question mark against him because he missed all of last season and is readjusting to regular football.

That feels slightly light to me, although I think Sonne and Humphreys have played in defensive midfield roles. That's why we might still be holding a candle for Brownhill although I don't know how realistic that now is. I'm not sure Bauress is really in the equation here - he might play league cup ties should he stay with us but he's not realistically an option in the Premier League.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:15 am

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:08 am
Bad decisions if true
Unless we get in a replacement that is
Just a sweetener for Espanyol, imo
Weakens our options, pace is always an option, to me, late on in a game
Agree. Can’t really see it though. He started yesterday in the stronger team that Parker managed.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:17 am

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:08 am
Bad decisions if true
Unless we get in a replacement that is
Just a sweetener for Espanyol, imo
Weakens our options, pace is always an option, to me, late on in a game
I agree

Can't see it happening personally especially as he is essentially an extra player for the squad due to his age.

IMO it would probably be a more likely loan destination for Adewumi, Sambo and Sonne.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:20 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:17 am
I agree

Can't see it happening personally especially as he is essentially an extra player for the squad due to his age.

IMO it would probably be a more likely loan destination for Adewumi, Sambo and Sonne.
Are any of those 3 good enough to play in La Liga though?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:24 am

claretspice wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:14 am
As it stands should we sign Cajuste, we would have him, Cullen, Hannibal and Laurent as front line players comfortable in a midfield two, plus Ramsey who can play there but is probably more comfortable slightly further forwards and in any event has a question mark against him because he missed all of last season and is readjusting to regular football.

That feels slightly light to me, although I think Sonne and Humphreys have played in defensive midfield roles. That's why we might still be holding a candle for Brownhill although I don't know how realistic that now is.
I agree, as I said it does leave us vulnerable in the case of even one injury. It's not really what I'd prefer, just what I can see happening. We could look at it like Brownhill being replaced by a combination of Cajuste and Ramseys return. Again agree that's light but unless we get some bodies out the door pronto I think he'll risk it for now with Bauress in reserve as the fourth.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:25 am

Does it feel like we really haven't spent much so far this summer?
I am happy with our dealings, but there must be a decent pot left for a striker, surely?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:26 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:20 am
Are any of those 3 good enough to play in La Liga though?
The answer to that I think is "who knows"! Adewumi is an interesting one, he had a very good season albeit in the Scottish prem. Would love to see him tested at a higher level.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:28 am

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:25 am
Does it feel like we really haven't spent much so far this summer?
I am happy with our dealings, but there must be a decent pot left for a striker, surely?
I suppose we spent a fair whack on obligation to buy players that triggered when we got promoted too. But with Trafford going you'd have thought one more bigger signing isn't off the cards?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:28 am

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:24 am
I agree, as I said it does leave us vulnerable in the case of even one injury. It's not really what I'd prefer, just what I can see happening. We could look at it like Brownhill being replaced by a combination of Cajuste and Ramseys return. Again agree that's light but unless we get some bodies out the door pronto I think he'll risk it for now with Bauress in reserve as the fourth.
But Parker said we were one light last season, which is why we signed Shelvey. If we didn't want to rely on Bauress in the Championship last season as a reserve I think it's a huge leap to rely on him this season. I think it's more likely we'll bring in one more myself.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:28 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:20 am
Are any of those 3 good enough to play in La Liga though?
I would say Sonne could be. Peru international.

Worth baring in mind the much maligned Pires played 28 games in La Liga before joining us.

Additionally, I’d say maybe Benson, Beyer, Delcroix, Ramsey and maybe Banel are options for Espanyol.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:29 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:20 am
Are any of those 3 good enough to play in La Liga though?
Adewumi and Sonne I would say yes.

As for Sambo, tbh, no idea.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:30 am

claretspice wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:28 am
But Parker said we were one light last season, which is why we signed Shelvey. If we didn't want to rely on Bauress in the Championship last season as a reserve I think it's a huge leap to rely on him this season. I think it's more likely we'll bring in one more myself.
Fair point! And maybe he'll look to bring in experience again like i suggested in OP. Shelvey obviously didn't do much for us but I can see why he was after that profile of player.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Firthy » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:37 am

BigGaz wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:04 am
I've been told that Cajuste is far more advanced than what is currently being reported, IE practically done.
Can't be right. He's unfollowed us on some phone app

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:37 am

taio wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:10 am
The conceded goals is right. 15 is clean sheets.
Cripes. So in the remaining 58 games he conceded an average of over 2 a game!? Not saying that's his fault, but an incredible amount of goals to ship.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:47 am

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:56 am
I don't know much about Johnstone apart from his highlights reel on Youtube is all in a single match against Leeds, and he has played a grand total of 36 games in the last 4 years. Why do we think he is so good? What is he like with his distribution?

Yes, I have my doubts. He's definitely a downgrade on Trafford.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:51 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:47 am
Yes, I have my doubts. He's definitely a downgrade on Trafford.
I mean, what else can we expect? We’re not exactly in a position to replace the most expensive ever British goalkeeper off to play for one of the biggest clubs in world football with someone of equal quality.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:03 am

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:25 am
Does it feel like we really haven't spent much so far this summer?
I am happy with our dealings, but there must be a decent pot left for a striker, surely?
Net spend will be at around 25m once the Trafford deal goes through.

Around 60m spent
Then around 35m on sales of Trafford, Massengo and Costelloe

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:05 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 9:19 am
Still think we need another centre mid.
Nixon linked us with Jordan James at Rennes (ex Birmingham) early in the window, I think he would be a great cm option to

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:12 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:51 am
I mean, what else can we expect? We’re not exactly in a position to replace the most expensive ever British goalkeeper off to play for one of the biggest clubs in world football with someone of equal quality.

Absolutely, but it doesn't alter the facts.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:23 am

Baffled by us going for the much older and inferior Johnstone over ramsdale. Presumably the difference in fee would be around 10 mill which spread over a number of seasons wouldn't be a huge deal.

We'd have a better and younger goalkeeper. Strange.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:24 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:12 pm
So as it stands, where are the goals coming from?
Same place the goals came from last year?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:25 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:24 am
Same place the goals came from last year?
Brownhill?

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Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:29 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:25 am
Brownhill?
That's why I hope he signs, however anyone who fills that's position could get goals. We don't particularly play football that suits a goal poacher, unless we change tactics

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:29 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:47 am
Yes, I have my doubts. He's definitely a downgrade on Trafford.
He's got a far lower ceiling but in terms of being equipped, right now, to manage a defence through a challenging Premier League season, with all the scrutiny that entails, I'm less sure the difference is so profound.

Two years ago I thought Trafford was a good signing at the wrong time. No guarantees but Johnstone has the potential to be a case of signing an inferior profile of player, but the right sort of player for now.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:30 am

Goliath wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:23 am
Baffled by us going for the much older and inferior Johnstone over ramsdale. Presumably the difference in fee would be around 10 mill which spread over a number of seasons wouldn't be a huge deal.

We'd have a better and younger goalkeeper. Strange.
The difference in wages would be absolutely enormous.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:31 am

Goliath wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:23 am
Baffled by us going for the much older and inferior Johnstone over ramsdale. Presumably the difference in fee would be around 10 mill which spread over a number of seasons wouldn't be a huge deal.

We'd have a better and younger goalkeeper. Strange.
Ramsdalea wages probably, who’s the better and young keeper we already have?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:33 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:31 am
Ramsdalea wages probably, who’s the better and young keeper we already have?
We don't have a keeper currently better than either if Trafford goes

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by jtv » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:42 am

Has talk of the Croatian guy (forgot his name) fizzled out to nowt?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:51 am

willsclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 10:37 am
Cripes. So in the remaining 58 games he conceded an average of over 2 a game!? Not saying that's his fault, but an incredible amount of goals to ship.
Spent most of those matches with bottom 5 teams, as I remember. Even the very best of keepers would ship goals with them defences in front of them.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:56 am

claretspice wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:30 am
The difference in wages would be absolutely enormous.
You have absolutely no idea if that's true. They will currently be on similar packages I imagine as Ramsdales will probably have cut massively on relegation.

Ramsdale would probably want about 70k, he won't get as much as he got moving from Arsenal, his reputation has dropped. For a goalkeeper at his prime with a lot of experience it's probably worth it.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretspice » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:00 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:56 am
You have absolutely no idea if that's true. They will currently be on similar packages I imagine as Ramsdales will probably have cut massively on relegation.

Ramsdale would probably want about 70k, he won't get as much as he got moving from Arsenal, his reputation has dropped. For a goalkeeper at his prime with a lot of experience it's probably worth it.
I don't know but I think it's a reasonable assumption given their career trajectories and what's been reported. Certainly it's a reasonable hypothesis to answer your question about why we'd go for Johnstone.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:09 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:00 pm
I don't know but I think it's a reasonable assumption given their career trajectories and what's been reported. Certainly it's a reasonable hypothesis to answer your question about why we'd go for Johnstone.
I would have thought Johnstones on a good wage. He was signed to compete for the number 1 shirt not as a number 2 so maybe 40-50k. I'd prefer us to pay an extra 20 or so on a better, younger keeper with a much higher sell on value.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:13 pm

I'm under the impression Ramsdale's wages don't reduce due to Southampton's relegation because there was no such clause in his contract. He would cost considerably more in terms of both fee and wages than Johnstone.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:26 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sun Jul 27, 2025 12:09 pm
I would have thought Johnstones on a good wage. He was signed to compete for the number 1 shirt not as a number 2 so maybe 40-50k. I'd prefer us to pay an extra 20 or so on a better, younger keeper with a much higher sell on value.
Think they are expecting Weiß to be that young keeper just too soon right now.

Johnstone at the last World cup got ahead of Popey. 4 caps for England, made some saves and clean sheets. Think Trafford has taken his place.

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