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by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:54 am
ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:27 am
We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.
I wondered how you were managing to fill your head with such a load of nonsense.
Now we all know.
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:55 am
jedi_master wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:38 am
Exactly how I feel Tony.
What about an appropriately priced cardigan though?
It would have to be appropriately priced

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by Culmclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:58 am
I am really not sure what on earth people expected. Parker has an excellent record at the level we are at. Lots of names have been touted and quite a few have been odds on favourites but I wouldn’t say that any of them have been noticeably better than Parker.
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by expoultryboy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:58 am
CT : most charity shops have cardigans , and you get a free pipe with it .
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by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:00 am
It doesn’t matter if the manager is standing in the technical area wearing a bin bag so long as the team are being set up properly and winning matches.
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
warksclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:54 am
Sounds a very "woolly" appraisal CT, but absolutely agree, and hopefully we can crack on now and plan fully
Maybe, but I want us to have a successful team with a good manager and not a big name. In my time we've probably had three big names managing us in Martin Buchan, Chris Waddle and Vincent Kompany. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't want any of those three walking through the door. I want a good manager who will repair the dressing room and get us playing as a team again. Frightening when you read reports that tell us the dressing room is fractured and full of cliques.
Clique - that reminds me of a post many years go from our old friend Eli. An argument had started with some posters complaining you couldn't post anything if you weren't in the clique. Eli came on and posted: "It's an interesting word is clique, it can be found between climax and clitoris in the Oxford Dictionary." The argument was ended.
Anyway, back to my point, let's hope we are getting a manager who can galvanise the squad and get it playing again.
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by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
kentonclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:54 am
I wondered how you were managing to fill your head with such a load of nonsense.
Now we all know.
Which nonsense is that, Kenton?
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by NewClaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:35 am
Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his expected appointment? NO
As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO
Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.
Agree with all of this.
I was hoping, maybe naively, for a manager who would unite us all after a difficult last season. I’m also hugely shocked with who we’ve gone for. I was expecting another ‘name’ to help attract investment/players/PR, and an exciting ‘up and coming’ manager in the mould of Kompany to attract a fee ultimately - I thought Pace might of got the taste for those. Although those two statements are contradictory because I doubt such a profile would’ve united us all.
As it happens I think we’re all united in being underwhelmed but agreement he’ll get our full backing if he gives 100%. I suppose all the fans complaining that we would choose a name over experience can now apologise, because to be fair to Pace he’s probably gone and got the man that has the best experience of the immediate task at hand.
I will personally be MUCH happier if this is an appointment that also keeps Bellamy/Jackson. I’d be comforted by that and it’d make the whole appointment make more sense to me. I’d like to see us evolve Kompany’s style vs scrap it and adopt a new one. Especially as it worked so well last time and we now have a better team in my view (pending sales) - certainly in defence, midfield, & on the wings. I’m hoping Parker has agreed to make them his new team and introduce his ideas more slowly as the season progresses given it’s 6 weeks till season starts.
Will get my backing. Also won’t be wearing cardies.
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by expoultryboy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
His biggest problem is sorting out the squad before the season starts. Will he have a keeper , left back , Amdouni , Berge etc .
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
expoultryboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:58 am
CT : most charity shops have cardigans , and you get a free pipe with it .
I once tried smoking a pipe many years ago - never again.
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by burnley007 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:03 am
Has this nightmare been confirmed by the club yet?
I'm still clinging onto the hope that it's a smokescreen...
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by beddie » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:04 am
Walton wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:32 am
He's proven he knows how to get out of the Championship multiple times, and he's about to walk into probably the most talented squad he's ever worked with.
I keep reading about our talented squad, whist that may be the case I do wonder how many of them will actually be here prior to the closure of the transfer window, several have already gone, admittedly some were loans, out of contract etc but now there’s talk of Muric going, no doubt there will be interested for Berge, last seasons squad will be severely depleted.
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by Paulclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:04 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:52 am
3 points from their opening games against Villa, Arsenal, City and Liverpool (okay a shocker) isn’t exactly ‘out of depth’ material, for a newly promoted club, surely.
I fully agree, I live down here and that seems to be the general view of Parker by Bournemouth fans and the fact that they definitely improved under the new manager seems to confirm it to them. They seem to ignore the fact that the new manager worked under the new owner and spent quite a bit of money.
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport ... dow-recap/
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by ElectroClaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:04 am
brexit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:52 am
Let it go C&J most of the posters on here still pick the Sun and woodbines from the corner shop every day
How dare you....
Mirror for me.
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by Cornwallclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:15 am
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:35 am
Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his

expected appointment? NO
As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO
Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.
Completely agree with all the above, well put..
But if we’re 10 points clear at Xmas we’ll all be buying cardigans

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by Commy » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:16 am
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:35 am
Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his expected appointment? NO
As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO
Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.
You would look good in those cardies

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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:19 am
I wish I’d never mentioned the cardigans now


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by billyhamilton82 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:21 am
LincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:07 am
Can’t see the problem with this -
We definitely need an experienced manager.
Of those available with relevant experience - Parker is clearly the front runner.
Experience of playing at the top level, getting out the Championship, the requirements of the PL and he spent his transfer budget well.
He might take a bit of getting used to but this looks like the right choice in the circumstances.
Now the dust has settled a little and putting genuine thought into this appointment it is the best in terms of someone who has already got two teams out of this division, and at the first attempt.
Let's be honest if we start well and smash Rovers we will all be wearing the claret and blue cardigans the club put on sale, next to the Bad Beat Bob underpants.
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by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:21 am
brexit wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:52 am
Let it go C&J most of the posters on here still pick the Sun and woodbines from the corner shop every day
I suppose that’s my point. Reddit probably has a more evenly balanced spread of people than anywhere online. Including here.
Including Burnley fans.
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by clarets1978 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:30 am
ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 10:18 am
It's a bit disingenuous not to mention the worst season for a number of things as well.
Doesnt mean the previous season didnt happen though. People forget very quickly
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by williamjblazkowicz » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:45 am
I do wonder if, aside from the fact that Scott Parker has had success with two promotions from the Championship, one differentiating factor between him and perhaps Lampard is how they've spent their time away from football? I'd be interested to know what Parker has been doing but it doesn't seem to have been appearing on various podcasts like Lampard. Indeed, Lampard seemed to talk about downtime with family (which is fair enough) rather than doing something to improve his craft. I'm sure it's something that will have been discussed in the interview process!
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by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:47 am
There’s a lot to get through this summer. Parker might, just might, be the smart option.
That’s what I’m telling myself, anyway!
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by kentonclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:49 am
clarets1978 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:30 am
Doesnt mean the previous season didnt happen though. People forget very quickly
Obviously, Fulham and Bournemouth fans appear to have completely forgotten a play off final win at Wembley when underdogs against Brentford, and getting automatic promotion back to the Premier League.
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by FCBurnley » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:50 am
My 2 main concerns about Parker are firstly he has been very much a southern based player and Manager barring a spell at Newcastle. Burnley will be a complete shock to his system
Secondly he was sacked by Club Brugge after just 12 games. This hardly instills confidence
As with all new Clarets players and Managers I hope we will give him a fair chance but Burnley can be a very unforgiving place
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:53 am
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:50 am
My 2 main concerns about Parker are firstly he has been very much a southern based player and Manager barring a spell at Newcastle. Burnley will be a complete shock to his system
Secondly he was sacked by Club Brugge after just 12 games. This hardly instills confidence
As with all new Clarets players and Managers I hope we will give him a fair chance but Burnley can be a very unforgiving place
No idea what happened in Belgium for them to ditch him so quickly but had over two years in charge at Fulham and over a year at Bournemouth.
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by ClaretInLeeds » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:55 am
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:50 am
Secondly he was sacked by Club Brugge after just 12 games. This hardly instills confidence
As with all new Clarets players and Managers I hope we will give him a fair chance but Burnley can be a very unforgiving place
Do you know the situation surrounding his departure? Maybe he and his family didn't settle abroad? Maybe he struggled with the language. There could be a myriad of reasons.
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by ClaretAndJew » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:57 am
ClaretInLeeds wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:55 am
Do you know the situation surrounding his departure? Maybe he and his family didn't settle abroad? Maybe he struggled with the language. There could be a myriad of reasons.
If he struggled with the language he's not going to fit in at Burnley then.
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by clarets1978 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:58 am
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:50 am
My 2 main concerns about Parker are firstly he has been very much a southern based player and Manager barring a spell at Newcastle. Burnley will be a complete shock to his system
Secondly he was sacked by Club Brugge after just 12 games. This hardly instills confidence
As with all new Clarets players and Managers I hope we will give him a fair chance but Burnley can be a very unforgiving place
Dont think the southern is a problem. For example had Sean Dyche been up north before he came to us?
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by FCBurnley » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am
ClaretInLeeds wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:55 am
Do you know the situation surrounding his departure? Maybe he and his family didn't settle abroad? Maybe he struggled with the language. There could be a myriad of reasons.
Both reasons he might not settle at Burnley

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by dsr » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:50 am
My 2 main concerns about Parker are firstly he has been very much a southern based player and Manager barring a spell at Newcastle. Burnley will be a complete shock to his system
Secondly he was sacked by Club Brugge after just 12 games. This hardly instills confidence
As with all new Clarets players and Managers I hope we will give him a fair chance but Burnley can be a very unforgiving place
He may not live in Burnley, of course. Few managers live in the town where they manage. Perhaps he will find a part of the north of England that isn't just like Coronation Street and/or Last of the Summer wine!
You might be right about Burnley being unforgiving in the sense of the fans, though. There seem to be plenty on here who have written him off already, and a few of those have said they won't support him (and by extension, won't support the club).
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by Blyclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am
Parker did as well at Brugge as Kompany did at Burnley last season.
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by clarets1978 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:00 pm
kentonclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:49 am
Obviously, Fulham and Bournemouth fans appear to have completely forgotten a play off final win at Wembley when underdogs against Brentford, and getting automatic promotion back to the Premier League.
Oddly I think if either set of fans were asked to be honest and describe Parker, theyd probably say a very good Championship manager but out of his depth in the premier league. Oddly enough the same statement we'd make about Kompany
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by FCBurnley » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:00 pm
clarets1978 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:58 am
Dont think the southern is a problem. For example had Sean Dyche been up north before he came to us?
Sean played most of his career at Chesterfield!!!
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:00 pm
clarets1978 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:58 am
Dont think the southern is a problem. For example had Sean Dyche been up north before he came to us?
Sean always would say he’d played in the north for Chesterfield and that he wasn’t a southerner.
I don’t honestly think that matters so much these days.
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by clarets1978 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:01 pm
dsr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am
He may not live in Burnley, of course. Few managers live in the town where they manage. Perhaps he will find a part of the north of England that isn't just like Coronation Street and/or Last of the Summer wine!
You might be right about Burnley being unforgiving in the sense of the fans, though. There seem to be plenty on here who have written him off already, and a few of those have said they won't support him (and by extension, won't support the club).
Every single manager that was linked with us has been written off in some form at some point on this thread. Wouldnt have mattered who we appointed
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by ClaretTony » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:02 pm
clarets1978 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:00 pm
Oddly I think if either set of fans were asked to be honest and describe Parker, theyd probably say a very good Championship manager but out of his depth in the premier league. Oddly enough the same statement we'd make about Kompany
As has been said, he only got four games in the Premier League at Bournemouth and was sacked for speaking out. He did take Fulham back down but not with the same authority there that Kompany had here with his recruitment.
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by clarets1978 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:03 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:00 pm
Sean always would say he’d played in the north for Chesterfield and that he wasn’t a southerner.
I don’t honestly think that matters so much these days.
Yep I'll agree with that. I dont call Chesterfield northern but Im not arguing with Sean on that

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by Mattster » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:04 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:53 am
No idea what happened in Belgium for them to ditch him so quickly but had over two years in charge at Fulham and over a year at Bournemouth.
Alienated the board, players and fans. Worst points per game record of any permanent appointment at Club Brugge in the last 4 decades.
The statement pretty much summed up the boards feelings. It said he'd been sacked. When he was appointed and who he replaced then ended with the sentence "In 12 games, the Briton could only win 2 times". No thanks or anything like that.
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by Swizzlestick » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:14 pm
Blyclaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am
Parker did as well at Brugge as Kompany did at Burnley last season.
How are these two situations comparable? Brugge are one of the biggest and wealthiest clubs in Belgium.
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by mybloodisclaret » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:16 pm
It seems to me that no matter what your particular choice of who the manager should be, an appointment is imminent.
Whether you like or not, the time is fast approaching to put petulant whinging away, and unite behind the club, players and manager.
We have a new season weeks away, and a bit of a derby at the end of next month.
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by jlup1980 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:19 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
I was hoping, maybe naively, for a manager who would unite us all after a difficult last season. I’m also hugely shocked with who we’ve gone for. I was expecting another ‘name’ to help attract investment/players/PR, and an exciting ‘up and coming’ manager in the mould of Kompany to attract a fee ultimately - I thought Pace might of got the taste for those. Although those two statements are contradictory because I doubt such a profile would’ve united us all.
Parker might not be on the same level as Kompany, but he had a successful career at the top level, including internationally. Over 350 PL appearances for clubs like Chelsea, Newcastle, West Ham and Spurs shouldn't be dismissed. He should hold the respect of the players in the squad through his record as a player. We might not attract the same calibre of player as Kompany, but I suspect Parker will have more pull than many of our previous managers.
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by brexit » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:23 pm
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:04 am
How dare you....
Mirror for me.
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Apologies, are woodbines still available, or can you get woodbine flavoured vapes?
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by brexit » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:25 pm
dsr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:59 am
He may not live in Burnley, of course. Few managers live in the town where they manage. Perhaps he will find a part of the north of England that isn't just like Coronation Street and/or Last of the Summer wine!
You might be right about Burnley being unforgiving in the sense of the fans, though. There seem to be plenty on here who have written him off already, and a few of those have said they won't support him (and by extension, won't support the club).
Ribble Valley I would guess: probably West Bradford
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by Steddyman » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:28 pm
I'm not sure if this has already been posted, but interesting interview with Cullen about Parker when he was playing for Charlton:
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/5 ... ott-parker
I've completed the grieving process of not having a 'name' and I have fully come to terms with Parker as the new manager.
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by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:29 pm
There is a big difference from someone managing in Belgium who doesn’t speak the language and a Belgian managing here who is multilingual and who has lived here for years.
I don’t see the Bruge time as relevant. He was also sold a bit of a pup at both AFCB and Fulham with transfers so I’ll give him a chance and hope him and Pace see eye to eye, if they do it sounds like it will be the first time for Parker as a manager.
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by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:32 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 11:01 am
Frightening when you read reports that tell us the dressing room is fractured and full of cliques.
Losing dressing rooms normally are. If you are not getting into a losing team you wonder what is the point. Find a mate thinking similar you form a clique.
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by Denno97 » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:32 pm
We’re not going to get anyone of the quality of Kompany, however Parker sounds the best of an uninspiring list. He has my support and backing
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by dsr » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:34 pm
CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:29 pm
There is a big difference from someone managing in Belgium who doesn’t speak the language and a Belgian managing here who is multilingual and who has lived here for years.
I don’t see the Bruge time as relevant. He was also sold a bit of a pup at both AFCB and Fulham with transfers so I’ll give him a chance and hope him and Pace see eye to eye, if they do it sounds like it will be the first time for Parker as a manager.
Kompany's team talks at Anderlecht, or at least the ones shown on YouTube, were in English. Belgium has two main languages and the speakers of either don't necessarily speak both.
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by Tricky Trevor » Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:35 pm
clarets1978 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:03 pm
Yep I'll agree with that. I dont call Chesterfield northern but Im not arguing with Sean on that
Only 12 miles South of Sheffield but borderline N/Mids.