Next manager

[RVclaret]

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/head- ... is-tactics

A good analysis of Bournemouth's season in Championship. 2nd highest scorers, lowest conceded. Summarised by the author as very exciting football

Another good one here:

https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-a ... tt-parker/

[ClaretAndJew]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

[ClaretInLeeds]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

Reddit

[ClaretAndJew]

Reddit

Yes, Reddit.

73 million daily users to the website.

6.9 million following the r/soccer subreddit alone.

[dandeclaret]

Yeah but cardigans!

Yeah but Reddit……

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

Oh no not rinsed how will we all cope.

[Cazaris]

Kompany coming wasnt a coup at the time. He was a manager with very little experience that had failed miserably at a big club in Belguim. You're sat there judging a manager that has clear credentials to get us promoted over a result which was acheived in the premier league anyway. I assume by that theory Stan Ternent must one of our worst ever managers with all the 6's and 7's we conceded with him...... And with all that you say you'd rather go into the season with a guy that was leaving and has never managed a team.... You're on a wind up right??

Of COURSE Kompany coming in was a coup, are you mad? When the general consensus around the football world was "Kompany? At Burnley? Really?" that tells you everything.

Also, failed miserably at Anderlecht? Can you provide proof of that? Because from what I'm seeing they were floundering mid-table until Kompany took over and then started reaching semi-finals and finals of cups and qualifying for the Europa Conference League. If that's failure in your eyes then you need your eyes checked.

Stan was a decent manager, you'll get no criticism of him from me, but yes I am saying I'd rather go into the season with Bellamy at this point. He knows the squad, will have been heavily involved in their recruitment, probably has his own ideas of what went wrong that Kompany was probably not listening to (hence the rift between them and him supposedly leaving) but let me give you my thought-process as to why: What better way to prove to the guy who wasn't listening to your ideas than to take the team he recruited and twist things and potentially get a better result out of them? Bellamy, if the rumours are true, would be DRIVEN to prove Kompany wrong on many levels. Yes, he's not got experience of the Championship. Neither did Kompany and he absolutely ****** the league. People are putting too much stock into "knowing the Championship" and not enough into "Plays a style of football that can win against teams with a lot of different (often negative) styles".

To Parker's credit, he's capable of that, but if he does join and we do go back up, don't expect to stay there for very long.

[KRBFC]

Remind me what you've been saying about people supporting Kompany?

Nice to see you're supporting the new potential manager from the off.

It doesn’t matter who is appointed, they will get my full support, clean slate for them to show me they’re an upgrade on Kompany. Hopefully they can get close to Kompanys 101 point haul, I doubt it though.

[ClaretAndJew]

Oh no not rinsed how will we all cope.

We'll cope well.

I'm just offering a suggestion of how other people are reacting to the news.

[Swizzlestick]

Reddit or not, Fulham and Bournemouth fans are hardly
glowing in their appraisals.

[warksclaret]

Reading this NEXT MANAGER post for the past 5 weeks, and more specifically since yesterday when news of Parker appeared, makes me realise why there is such a mental health issue in this country. If the decision is made, lets get on with it, the bickering is not going to change the man or the nature of his football.Some anti-Parker readers are getting themselves in a real state. Not everyone's first choice, including mine, but he has a number of positives about him, and I could give you a long list of names being mentioned that would have been far worse for our club in my opinion. I now want to see the structure of our backroom being confirmed, and coaches and playing staff coming together to plan our new season in a very demanding league

[Holtyclaret]

Feel free to come back to this mid-season if I'm wrong.

No one likes a clever sh1t

[South West Claret.]

I’m just as interested to know who our next board and ownership are.

[ElectroClaret]

If i remember rightly, there were quite a few Watford fans having a bit of a chuckle when we appointed Dyche.
(Although some were sad to see him go).

As i recall, that didn't turn out too shabby...

[Shaggy]

If it is to be Parker then hopefully he gets off to a good start. An iffy start and a negative result against Rovers he will be hounded out in a similar fashion to Laws. Already got that feel about it.

[Walt]

As someone said in last few days on this, or another thread. Huddersfield fans also laughed at us signing Arfield.

It doesn't matter what he did/didn't do. It matters what he does here.

[Mattster]

No one likes a clever sh1t

Better than a thick one

[Mattster]

Reddit or not, Fulham and Bournemouth fans are hardly
glowing in their appraisals.

I asked someone to find a Fulham or Bournemouth fan with a positive opinion of Parker on twitter. Best they could come up with was

"He'll do you a good job in championship, he had us playing well, he got us and Fulham promoted but honestly think that's his level, if memory serves me right, he didn't do well in Belgium, Short term he is ideal but definitely not a long term solution.

He wasn't my preferred choice when we took him on either, Fulham fans weren't exactly singing his praises. Once you see the football, you understand why. Not taking away what he done because 2 promotions from 2 attemps is a good record. Its just difficult to watch unfortunately"

That was the most positive opinion across both clubs. The only other club he managed he was sacked after 12 games with the worst points per game record of the last 4 decades.

[eastcoastclaret]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

I prefer to use my own eyes and do research to form an opinion on something. Parker isn't the ideal candidate, but who is. The problem with fans is that there is rarely a consensus and its the vocal ones with the extreme views who shout the loudest. Given the chance, I'm sure Parker will be fine.

[ClaretPete001]

If i remember rightly, there were quite a few Watford fans having a bit of a chuckle when we appointed Dyche.
(Although some were sad to see him go).

As i recall, that didn't turn out too shabby...

Not sue that's true Dyche did very well at Watford - he was a victim of the new Italian owners who have subsequently appointed a new manager every ten minutes dependent upon the weather.

[Gordaleman]

For whatever reason, there are people on this board that will never accept Americans on the board of BFC, no matter how qualified, or how well they might serve the needs of our club.

I would advise them to read the following about our board of directors, which is freely available on the club website.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ff-members

We have some very highly qualified people from the sporting and business world, and in a relatively short time, I'm sure they will achieve great things for our small town club.

We will all have had our favourites when it comes to the new manager, but whoever the board appoints, I will support them.

C'mon you Clarets.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

We'll cope well.

I'm just offering a suggestion of how other people are reacting to the news.

Hopefully similar to times when Huddersfield fans mocked us signing Arfield.

[Blyclaret]

This board is a howl. Who exactly did ye want. Fancy Dan Kompany came in all talk failed miserably in premier league and the first club that came in for him he ****** off.
Give Parker a chance. Maybe he was 3rd or 4th choice but that’s the way it goes sometimes. I have a good feeling about him.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Can’t see the problem with this -

We definitely need an experienced manager.

Of those available with relevant experience - Parker is clearly the front runner.

Experience of playing at the top level, getting out the Championship, the requirements of the PL and he spent his transfer budget well.

He might take a bit of getting used to but this looks like the right choice in the circumstances.

[claretwardy88]

Sky bet suspended the market now

[AGENT_CLARET]

Which ones though? Must be a lot of screenshots

The one's going grazy about Parker and the ones from those that think this team is worst than the one we went up with

[Blyclaret]

These Bournemouth and Fulham supporters weren’t complaining when Parker got the promoted. That’s all **** talk from opposition fans. What did you expect them to say.

[AGENT_CLARET]

This board is a howl. Who exactly did ye want. Fancy Dan Kompany came in all talk failed miserably in premier league and the first club that came in for him he ****** off.
Give Parker a chance. Maybe he was 3rd or 4th choice but that’s the way it goes sometimes. I have a good feeling about him.

They wasn't the first club that come in for him

[FeedTheArf]

For whatever reason, there are people on this board that will never accept Americans on the board of BFC, no matter how qualified, or how well they might serve the needs of our club.

I would advise them to read the following about our board of directors, which is freely available on the club website.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ff-members

We have some very highly qualified people from the sporting and business world, and in a relatively short time, I'm sure they will achieve great things for our small town club.

We will all have had our favourites when it comes to the new manager, but whoever the board appoints, I will support them.

C'mon you Clarets.

I don’t understand this belief that people haven’t taken to the board because they’re American. That’s utter nonsense.

I think it has more to do with putting the club hundreds of millions into debt for the sole benefit of ALK.

[clarets1978]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

Is that the same Fulham & Bournemouth he got promoted?

[clarets1978]

These Bournemouth and Fulham supporters weren’t complaining when Parker got the promoted. That’s all **** talk from opposition fans. What did you expect them to say.

You'd get a similar type of thing on here with Kompany even though he managed us to our best ever season for points

[ClaretPete001]

The only issue I have with Parker is that he very publicly decided that a team that eventually did very nicely wasn't good enough for the PL and in many ways left the board at Bournemouth very little option but to sack him.

Pragmatic, plays a 4-2-3-1 with a double pivot - if we can keep the midfield trio of Cullen, Berge and Brownhill he would do nicely.

I don't know anyone of Bellamy's temperament that became a good manager. Most managers were leaders on the pitch like Allardyce, Dyche or Pep.

Other, like Zidane or Conte were difficult characters but led teams and became a talisman seeing out their contracts at a small number of clubs.

I can't think of anyone who was a bit of an outsider seemingly attracting controversy wherever they go..!

No criticism of Bellamy because he was a very good player and mavericks probably make great coaches but he doesn't display the characteristics normally required as a manager.

[ClaretPete001]

You'd get a similar type of thing on here with Kompany even though he managed us to our best ever season for points

It's a bit disingenuous not to mention the worst season for a number of things as well.

[Socrates]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

Both of them?

[CoolClaret]

For whatever reason, there are people on this board that will never accept Americans on the board of BFC, no matter how qualified, or how well they might serve the needs of our club.

I would advise them to read the following about our board of directors, which is freely available on the club website.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/mor ... ff-members

We have some very highly qualified people from the sporting and business world, and in a relatively short time, I'm sure they will achieve great things for our small town club.

We will all have had our favourites when it comes to the new manager, but whoever the board appoints, I will support them.

C'mon you Clarets.

It's not 'for whatever reason' which is disingenuous.

It's because American capitalists have a very different outlook on sport/business and what their role entails than what has been the norm with British chairman from the founding of the football league up until the mid/late 90s.

If they operated differently then opinions would be more supportive - as it stands for me the footballing department has gone backwards since they have took over (going from Dyche to Parker exemplifies that), everything has gotten significantly more expensive for the match attending fan and now the parts of the football club are used as collateral for whatever types of deals they have taken out in an attempt to line their own pockets... parts of the club that were well secure after previously consolidating in the PL under Garlick.

Not to mention the two consecutive sponsors that have some seriously nefarious links in the far east.

[ClaretTony]

We're being rinsed for this appointment by Fulham and Bournemouth fans on Reddit.

Are these the fans of the two clubs where he won promotion to the Premier League?

[mdd2]

You'd get a similar type of thing on here with Kompany even though he managed us to our best ever season for points

And our worst season for points per game in a season I am guessing

[Walton]

He's proven he knows how to get out of the Championship multiple times, and he's about to walk into probably the most talented squad he's ever worked with.

[ClaretTony]

Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his expected appointment? NO

As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO

Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.

[Cap]

He's proven he knows how to get out of the Championship multiple times, and he's about to walk into probably the most talented squad he's ever worked with.

Hmm maybe but that Fulham squad included Mitrovic and cost around €306m to assemble according to transfer market, if I am looking at the correct year.

[jedi_master]

Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his expected appointment? NO

As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO

Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.

Exactly how I feel Tony.

What about an appropriately priced cardigan though?

[gawthorpe_view]

Exactly how I feel Tony.

What about an appropriately priced cardigan though?

Nowt wrong with cardigans.

Might get one meself.

[gawthorpe_view]

Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his expected appointment? NO

As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO

Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.

[Paulclaret]

My son-in-law is a Bournemouth fan and said that Parker was brilliant for them in the Championship but was out of his depth in the Premier League. It has to be noted that Bournemouth sacked him after 4 games! Yes, that was after he spoke out after they got thrashed 9-0 at Liverpool, but he obviously felt that he hadn't had the support from the owner, Maxim Demin, who was already in negotiations to sell the club to current owner Bill Foley, and wasn't prepared to put any further money into the club when they got promoted. Bournemouth only improved in the second half of the season after the takeover.

[Hibsclaret]

It’s a strange one when someone with all the credentials is as uninspiring as this tbh. He even reached individual heights as a player above our last manager as he was named FWA player of the year. Let’s see how he does but with his experience of prior promotions and the quality of the squad, anything less than top 2 would be a failure tbh. How good he would be in the prem is another question entirely.

[ClaretPete001]

Hmm maybe but that Fulham squad included Mitrovic and cost around €306m to assemble according to transfer market, if I am looking at the correct year.

It looks like they spent similar to us after promotion Eur116 million but did manage to retain their squad.

They also spent some £9 million net in the Championship after relegation. We've already spent £25 million.

Everything depends upon who we sell this summer and for how much...! If we can do what Fulham did then Parker should have enough to give it a real go.

[colnegeezer]

So, I should pretend to be ecstatic about us appointing him?

I'm sorry, but i can't pretend to be anything other than massively disappointed with this appointment.

[RVclaret]

My son-in-law is a Bournemouth fan and said that Parker was brilliant for them in the Championship but was out of his depth in the Premier League. It has to be noted that Bournemouth sacked him after 4 games! Yes, that was after he spoke out after they got thrashed 9-0 at Liverpool, but he obviously felt that he hadn't had the support from the owner, Maxim Demin, who was already in negotiations to sell the club to current owner Bill Foley, and wasn't prepared to put any further money into the club when they got promoted. Bournemouth only improved in the second half of the season after the takeover.

3 points from their opening games against Villa, Arsenal, City and Liverpool (okay a shocker) isn’t exactly ‘out of depth’ material, for a newly promoted club, surely.

[brexit]

Yes, Reddit.

73 million daily users to the website.

6.9 million following the r/soccer subreddit alone.

Let it go C&J most of the posters on here still pick the Sun and woodbines from the corner shop every day

[warksclaret]

Would Parker have been my choice? - NO
Am I excited about his expected appointment? NO

As I've said before
Was I excited with Chris Waddle's appointment? YES
Was I excited with Sean Dyche's appointment? NO

Will Parker get my full support? Of course he will. We have had managers in my time watching Burnley who I've eventually been pleased to see the back of, and the last one fits into that category, but a Burnley manager is assured my full support and that's what Parker will get. Although, I will not be buying any overprices cardigans from the club shop.

Sounds a very "woolly" appraisal CT, but absolutely agree, and hopefully we can crack on now and plan fully