ARTICLE: Goalkeeping cover arrives with signing of Adam Legzdins

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:39 pm

Signing confirmed

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ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:41 pm

It's been a dismal summer.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:42 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It's been a dismal summer.

It has, you came back early. Now can you clear off and allow Burnley fans to discuss a new signing.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:43 pm

Don't let the dickhead on this thread as well Tony.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:43 pm

Happy with that. Keeper cover sorted. Just hoping for a centre half and one more before the window closes.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:43 pm

Goalkeeping cover sorted. Some young ones out on loan for experience. Now to bring in some more outfield quality.

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:44 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It's been a dismal summer.

It isnt over yet .patience abc

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:52 pm

Pearcey wrote:Goalkeeping cover sorted. Some young ones out on loan for experience. Now to bring in some more outfield quality.

Sounds about right to me

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:52 pm

Good deal, cover sorted with a decent standard keeper, who unless a crisis, can't expect to play too many games.

Now ideally get a centre back and a speedy winger and a good summer of business in my opinion.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:54 pm

Wow, just seen that we could have signed him for free a few weeks ago, and now we've paid a fee for him. Nothing like planning eh?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:57 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Wow, just seen that we could have signed him for free a few weeks ago, and now we've paid a fee for him. Nothing like planning eh?

Where did you see that?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:58 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Where did you see that?

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/f ... m-13099396

Some great quotes from May 2017:

“I am absolutely delighted (to stay at Birmingham) because everybody who knows me knows how much the club means to me.

“Coming back here again [in 2015] was a fantastic achievement for me and I want that relationship to continue for as long as possible.

“I have had other people contacting me. I think I represented myself very well last year.

“People have wanted me to consider their opportunities and offers but I am happy where I am. I still want to keep challenging myself at the highest level - and keep improving.

“I’ve had two seasons representing Birmingham City and I don’t want that to end. I want to carry on giving my all for a fantastic football club and city.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:59 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Wow, just seen that we could have signed him for free a few weeks ago, and now we've paid a fee for him. Nothing like planning eh?

Please tell us which member of the Birmingham staff or Burnley staff you have heard this from?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:59 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It's been a dismal summer.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:59 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It's been a dismal summer.

Agree..P1ssed down all August

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:59 pm

Who were people expecting us to bring in as 3rd choice keeper?
Must be difficult to convince someone to come and be number two to an England international never mind a number 3.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:59 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Wow, just seen that we could have signed him for free a few weeks ago, and now we've paid a fee for him. Nothing like planning eh?

You've got that 100% wrong but don't worry, it gives you something else to beat the club up with.

Birmingham had a year's option and triggered it in May to ensure he could not leave for nothing.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:00 pm

He had offers from other clubs. If he'd have had an offer from us he wouldn't have signed that extension with Birmingham, only to leave 3 months later would he?

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:00 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/f ... m-13099396

Some great quotes from May 2017:

Even if the case was true, which it isn't, did with even know Robinson was leaving on the 27th May?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:01 pm

I think by May 27th we knew that Paul Robinson was no longer good enough to be a Premier League goalkeeper

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:02 pm

We wouldn't even have got excited about this signing if we'd been in Division 1.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:You've got that 100% wrong but don't worry, it gives you something else to beat the club up with.

Birmingham had a year's option and triggered it in May to ensure he could not leave for nothing.

It's 100% something to beat the club up with. Legzdins was free to speak to other clubs, who could sign him for nothing had he agreed terms. We obviously didn't approach him.

We've now paid a fee for him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:03 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I think by May 27th we knew that Paul Robinson was no longer good enough to be a Premier League goalkeeper

Irrelevant - option triggered on 27th May to prevent him going out of contract on 1st July. At no point in time was he available as a free agent.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:03 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He had offers from other clubs. If he'd have had an offer from us he wouldn't have signed that extension with Birmingham, only to leave 3 months later would he?

He didn't sign an extension, Birmingham triggered the option in his contract.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:03 pm

ablueclaret wrote:We wouldn't even have got excited about this signing if we'd been in Division 1.

I've always found people who get excited about the signing of a third choice goalkeeper rather odd.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:04 pm

ablueclaret wrote:We wouldn't even have got excited about this signing if we'd been in Division 1.

I don't think anybody is excited by this signing. It was however, a necessity. Change the record!!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:05 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He had offers from other clubs. If he'd have had an offer from us he wouldn't have signed that extension with Birmingham, only to leave 3 months later would he?

I think you've misunderstood the phrase "Blues decided to take up the option in his contract". It means that Birmingham decided to take up the option, not that Legzdins decided to take up the option. Legzdins didn't have a choice - it was in his contract which he signed in 2015, before Burnley were interested.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:05 pm

We've signed a goalkeeper with leggings?

Is Gabor Kiraly back?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:06 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:It's 100% something to beat the club up with. Legzdins was free to speak to other clubs, who could sign him for nothing had he agreed terms. We obviously didn't approach him.

We've now paid a fee for him.

Yes, he was free to talk to other clubs but not free to sign for another club until 1st July. Once Birmingham triggered that clause, he was not available for free to any club from 1st July. That's how it works.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:06 pm

How were those other offers he speaks about presented to him then?

Were clubs tapping up Birmingham's 2nd choice keeper?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:11 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:How were those other offers he speaks about presented to him then?

Were clubs tapping up Birmingham's 2nd choice keeper?

He was free to discuss with other clubs and would have been able to leave for nothing on 1st July had Birmingham allowed his contract to run down. They didn't - they triggered the one year and that meant he remained under contract until 1st July 2018.

We have similar one year clauses we can trigger for Brady, Defour, Gudmundsson, Westwood, Chris Long and Pope of the current first team squad.

Legzdins was obviously happy with it at the time but they've since signed a new first choice goalkeeper.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:17 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I think by May 27th we knew that Paul Robinson was no longer good enough to be a Premier League goalkeeper

Hi UTB, May 27th I'm pretty sure that we believed that Paul Robinson would recover from his back problem and would continue in his role as 2nd/3rd choice behind Tom Heaton. As we all know now, Paul Robinson's recovery didn't progress and, so he made the decision to retire.

Nick Pope is a good keeper - and will progress. I expect we will see him hold the number 2 position this season, though maybe Adam Legzdins will be able to push him hard for a position on the bench.

It's what all Premier squads need, 1st choice keeper - there is none better than Tom Heaton - a good 2nd choice keeper and a good 3rd choice keeper.

No one wants an injury to their 1st choice keeper to be the end of the team's season. I know nothing about Adam Legzdins; it appears that Sean Dyche has fixed our "3 keepers" challenge.

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boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:19 pm

3 years!!!! Ridiculous.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:20 pm

Get him part way to retirement.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:22 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Get him part way to retirement.

To me it implies that none of our existing goalkeepers, with the obvious exception of Heaton, will be good enough even for third choice.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:25 pm

It tells me the recruitment team aren't up to the job.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:30 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It tells me the recruitment team aren't up to the job.

Only if their job is to make you happy. If their job is to recruit a squad to keep us in the PL they appear to have been well up to it.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:31 pm

boatshed bill wrote:To me it implies that none of our existing goalkeepers, with the obvious exception of Heaton, will be good enough even for third choice.

They are young and in need of more playing experience. One of them is already an under-21 international. It implies to me that our existing goalkeepers are being given exactly what's required.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:32 pm

Legzdins going to keep us in the Premiership, give me strength.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:32 pm

boatshed bill wrote:To me it implies that none of our existing goalkeepers, with the obvious exception of Heaton, will be good enough even for third choice.

Or maybe it means that in a couple of years, we might be back in the Championship with Heaton having moved on, Pope as number 1 and Legzdins as a decent back up option.

Or if we're still in the Premier League and Legzdins decides he wants to move on we get a fee for him rather than him moving on a free.

Seems good business all round to me.

1968claret · Post by **1968claret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:33 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It tells me the recruitment team aren't up to the job.

FFS give it a rest.
We have signed a back up keeper. End of story.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:34 pm

We've signed a player for three years who won't be of great use even if we get relegated.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote:They are young and in need of more playing experience. One of them is already an under-21 international. It implies to me that our existing goalkeepers are being given exactly what's required.

I'd wholeheartedly agree if our latest recruit was on a shorter contract.
How old does a goalkeeper have to be to play for Burnley?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:35 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I'd wholeheartedly agree if our latest recruit was on a shorter contract.
How old does a goalkeeper have to be to play for Burnley?

He's 30 and younger than Tom Heaton - that's not old for a goalkeeper

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He's 30 and younger than Tom Heaton - that's not old for a goalkeeper

I was referring to the younger lads.
You have to wonder, If we had Jordan Pickford we'd probably loan him out

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:38 pm

But he's with us for three years with no realistic chance of improvement, and keeping out any young keepers beneath him.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:39 pm

ablueclaret wrote:But he's with us for three years with no realistic chance of improvement, and keeping out any young keepers beneath him.

Exactly.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:40 pm

Keeping them out of what!? Better for them to be playing each week or are you suggesting we drop Heaton to give a youngster a game!?

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:40 pm

ablueclaret wrote:We've signed a player for three years who won't be of great use even if we get relegated.

He'll be of more use to Burnley than you are!

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:41 pm

Low expectations by Charles Claret.