Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

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Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by exclaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:19 am

Swiss Ramble is a Twitter account (run by a finance guy) that runs through the accounts of football clubs around the world.

He basically breaks down all parts of a football clubs accounts, then gives you commentary and his own graphs about it.

He makes it very interesting to read, easy to digest and so that anyone can understand it.

This link shows you the entire thread on Twitter - it'll take you 15 minutes to read (properly).

Here it is: https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 6284259328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Enjoy - it just shows you how amazingly well this club is being run!

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by ClaretPope » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:33 am

Very interesting way to present the information from the accounts. I particularly like the quote: "Unlike many clubs #BurnleyFC pay their own way. Since 2009 they generated £104m from operations. Of this, £52m went on players (net), while £16m was invested in infrastructure (mainly Barnfield training ground) and £16m interest/loan payments. £20m increased cash balance."

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by exclaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:34 am

ClaretPope wrote:Very interesting way to present the information from the accounts. I particularly like the quote: "Unlike many clubs #BurnleyFC pay their own way. Since 2009 they generated £104m from operations. Of this, £52m went on players (net), while £16m was invested in infrastructure (mainly Barnfield training ground) and £16m interest/loan payments. £20m increased cash balance."
That goes very well with the clubs mantra of 'living within our means'.

Great point!

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:41 am

I've used this site when I'm mooching around social media poking fun at other clubs and despite the clear information it gives, fans of other clubs try to dismiss what he says.

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by exclaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:46 am

Sidney1st wrote:I've used this site when I'm mooching around social media poking fun at other clubs and despite the clear information it gives, fans of other clubs try to dismiss what he says.
What do you mean, sorry?

He only states facts, none of it is really *opinion*.

He just explains what amortization costs of players means, for example. Which 99% of the population, wouldn't even understand what amortization is...

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by UpTheBeehole » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:50 am

We're knackered if we go down. 100% reliant on the TV money.

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by exclaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:53 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:We're knackered if we go down. 100% reliant on the TV money.
Wrong.

This year's accounts has the Keane and Gray sales in - our profit will be higher.

There's clauses in every players contract saying they take a big pay cut if we go down.

We get parachute payments.

We are about to post a top 10 finish (virtually all but guaranteed).

STFU!
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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by Sidney1st » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:12 am

exclaret wrote:What do you mean, sorry?

He only states facts, none of it is really *opinion*.

He just explains what amortization costs of players means, for example. Which 99% of the population, wouldn't even understand what amortization is...
That's my point.

If you want to pick an arguement with fans of another club about finances swiss ramble is the go to website when people ask for proof.

Boro fans being an example when they've been told Gibson wrote off about £80 million just prior to FFP kicking in, they don't believe it and despite the proof on swiss ramble they still generally don't.

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by exclaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:16 am

Sidney1st wrote:That's my point.

If you want to pick an arguement with fans of another club about finances swiss ramble is the go to website when people ask for proof.

Boro fans being an example when they've been told Gibson wrote off about £80 million just prior to FFP kicking in, they don't believe it and despite the proof on swiss ramble they still generally don't.
Then they're fickle and clearly morons, frankly :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by aggi » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:21 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We're knackered if we go down. 100% reliant on the TV money.
So is 75% of the rest of the Premier League. We've built up some cash reserves so, together with parachute payments, we could last a couple of seasons if we went down. If we didn't get promoted in that time though we'd be scuppered. It's no different to many other clubs though.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:25 pm

An excellent account to follow as he simplifies accounts so most can understand. Not seen the Venkys ones yet but they will be a laugh a minute. Next year's with the lack of parachute payments, almost non existent TV money and reduced match day income, along with an inflated wage bill will be hysterical.
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Post by Milltown1882 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:15 pm

Good read, United's figures are unbelievable.

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:21 pm

Im not one normally to defend UTB , as Ive had a verbal joust or two with him on here.I suspect in this case however his post might just be taking the proverbial...I would agree with those posters recommending Swiss Ramble's work by the way.

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:11 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We're knackered if we go down. 100% reliant on the TV money.
You’re a bundle of fun

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by ecc » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:55 pm

It's a well-respected site.

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Re: Swiss Ramble - Burnley 16/17 Accounts - Simplified

Post by mickleoverclaret » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:25 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We're knackered if we go down. 100% reliant on the TV money.
Aye, last time we went down, it was all over

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