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Europe Away

Post by tybfc » Fri May 25, 2018 12:31 am

Can anybody hazard a wild guess as to how the club will sell tickets for our first visit into Europe in decades?

Obviously our allocation will depend upon who we draw and we will never know how many tickets we are given unless the home club release the numbers.

Will it be our normal points system starting at 5000 and reducing to 3000 then to season ticket holders?

Will the usual batches be given to the supporters groups to hand out?

Will the Foundation Group get a batch to give to their chosen few?

Or will it be a free for all like the good old days and queue up outside the ticket office overnight?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri May 25, 2018 12:36 am

Hopefully watch from a tower block above a communist bowl stadium in Belarus!

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri May 25, 2018 6:31 am

Hopefully the tickets for the final are based on pepole attending European games and not given to someone with lots of points that doesn't travel away or attend Europa league games.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by MACCA » Fri May 25, 2018 7:22 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Hopefully the tickets for the final are based on pepole attending European games and not given to someone with lots of points that doesn't travel away or attend Europa league games.
I'll dash your hope now, there's no point waiting 10 months, it's the hope that kills you.

I'm sure a few of the pub lads who support Liverpool, Chelsea, United and Everton will tag a long too though for the p1ss up, most if not all with at ticket, just like a couple of times a season for the big games/weekends away.
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Re: Europe Away

Post by claretwardy88 » Fri May 25, 2018 7:36 am

Hoping foundation gets some!

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Re: Europe Away

Post by whentheballmoves » Fri May 25, 2018 9:56 am

Depends on the size of the ground, they may even need to go to 9000 or 7000 points, 1 ticket per customer style, if we draw a team, say from The Faroe Islands...
Personally, I don't think supporters groups should get any preference for these games, as they are somewhat different from your run-of-the-mill league matches...
Foundation numbers should be limited, too, IMHO. Express an interest, with foundation members' names drawn out of a hat if necessary?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri May 25, 2018 10:00 am

It will be the same system as always surely?

Supporters clubs will get some, foundation some and the rest will be on a points system.

I still haven't had a reply from the club that priority should be on the basis on who was at hartlepool in 1992, when it was -15, and 0-0 and they had just broken the world record for number of games without a goal and we were, frankly and not to put too fine a point on it, ****. Anyone who stood through that deserves first priority if we get FC Lapland away, cos at least it would be warmer there.
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Re: Europe Away

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Fri May 25, 2018 10:10 am

If they up it to say 9,000 loyalty points,
I am pretty sure there will still be
some 8-year olds there. :lol:

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Re: Europe Away

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 25, 2018 11:34 am

Can i post my begging request here now? ;) No way i can get back to queue up

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Re: Europe Away

Post by edison » Fri May 25, 2018 12:11 pm

do those who hold EU passports get priority after March 29?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by claretburns » Fri May 25, 2018 12:28 pm

whentheballmoves wrote:Depends on the size of the ground, they may even need to go to 9000 or 7000 points, 1 ticket per customer style, if we draw a team, say from The Faroe Islands...
Personally, I don't think supporters groups should get any preference for these games, as they are somewhat different from your run-of-the-mill league matches...
Foundation numbers should be limited, too, IMHO. Express an interest, with foundation members' names drawn out of a hat if necessary?
For all games, not just Europe, supporters groups should get no preference or priority whatsoever. Was getting fed up last season of tickets selling out when despite needing 5000+ points supporter clubs could just turn up and take a batch of tickets for themselves, with no checks from the ticket office staff that they have the required points or season tickets.

Part of me sometimes wishes we can go back to the Championship days when you could go to any away you wanted with no hassle over getting a ticket, long before all these thousands of fans came crawling out of the woodwork.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Foshiznik » Fri May 25, 2018 12:29 pm

Loyalty points, schmoyalty points. Think about the kiddiewinks and bandwagoners!

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Re: Europe Away

Post by philh2004 » Fri May 25, 2018 12:49 pm

Nailed on it'll end up being a free for all and a massive balls up.

If we're away first leg, we'll have 7 days from finding out who we play, to the game. They'll be no time for priority points, no time to post tickets out etc.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Dyched » Fri May 25, 2018 12:53 pm

Its probably been posted somewhere but what is the draw date and dates of the games? Thanks

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Foshiznik » Fri May 25, 2018 12:56 pm

Dyched wrote:Its probably been posted somewhere but what is the draw date and dates of the games? Thanks
I know it's the 19th June for the draw. Not too sure of the games but I am sure it's late July.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri May 25, 2018 12:56 pm

Dyched wrote:Its probably been posted somewhere but what is the draw date and dates of the games? Thanks

All dates here

http://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Dyched » Fri May 25, 2018 1:02 pm

Thanks Both

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Re: Europe Away

Post by houseboy » Fri May 25, 2018 1:14 pm

claretburns wrote:For all games, not just Europe, supporters groups should get no preference or priority whatsoever. Was getting fed up last season of tickets selling out when despite needing 5000+ points supporter clubs could just turn up and take a batch of tickets for themselves, with no checks from the ticket office staff that they have the required points or season tickets.

Part of me sometimes wishes we can go back to the Championship days when you could go to any away you wanted with no hassle over getting a ticket, long before all these thousands of fans came crawling out of the woodwork.
Sorry bud but these 'thousands of fans crawling out of the woodwork' are making money for the club. Would you rather we were in the PL playing in front of the 2k hardy souls that braved the elements in the 4th division? EVERY team loses support the further down the leagues they go and EVERY team regains that support when they go back up. It's part of football. I get kind of sick of the 'loyal football fan' who criticises others for not wanting to spend hard earned watching sh!te. I missed a chunk of the 4th division days but not because we were there but for other personal reasons that had nothing to do with football, but I can tell you that with the rubbish that was being served up just then I certainly would have chosen my games, as did a lot of people. Do you honestly think that 40k plus would turn up every week if Liverpool were in the bottom tier? Or City? Or Arsenal? Correct, they wouldn't.
Football snobbery is just as bad as any other kind of snobbery.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by whentheballmoves » Fri May 25, 2018 2:14 pm

When's the League Cup 2nd and 3rd round dates? (I know we join in the latter.)

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Leisure » Fri May 25, 2018 4:19 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:All dates here

http://www.uptheclarets.com/friendlies-and-key-dates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Tony - I can see the League Cup 1st Round date on the list but can't see the 2nd round onward?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri May 25, 2018 5:21 pm

Supporters clubs should absolutely get priority. Its up to them to police their members. But supporters club are the lifeblood of the club when we dont have the premier league money etc.

Ive no issue with the likes of Accy Clarets, Boundary Clarets etc getting a certain % of tickets and I would trust them to manage their allocation fairly.

They have a thankless enough task as it is. If they dont get tickets they would just jack it in.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri May 25, 2018 5:47 pm

It should be a single file Sherpa Van Trophy Final like queue all the way around and past the cricket club up to the Fire Station.
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Re: Europe Away

Post by Goodclaret » Fri May 25, 2018 6:23 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Supporters clubs should absolutely get priority. Its up to them to police their members. But supporters club are the lifeblood of the club when we dont have the premier league money etc.

Ive no issue with the likes of Accy Clarets, Boundary Clarets etc getting a certain % of tickets and I would trust them to manage their allocation fairly.

They have a thankless enough task as it is. If they dont get tickets they would just jack it in.
Not sure I agree with supporters clubs getting priority for the European ties to be honest. Yes, they travel domestically on a regular basis and I don't mind the fact they get a batch for the PL but it's not as though they are going to run a coach to Belarus. I travel regularly to away games in the PL but (usually) drive. Why would they deserve a ticket more than me?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Noble Peter » Fri May 25, 2018 6:51 pm

I’ll go without a ticket if I have to

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Re: Europe Away

Post by jrgbfc » Fri May 25, 2018 7:28 pm

Not sure what you're all worrying about? I'm sure our ticketing department will have it all in hand.
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Re: Europe Away

Post by 2 Bee Holed » Fri May 25, 2018 7:54 pm

jrgbfc wrote:Not sure what you're all worrying about? I'm sure our ticketing department will have it all in hand.
Post of the year. :D

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Paul Waine » Fri May 25, 2018 8:42 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:It should be a single file Sherpa Van Trophy Final like queue all the way around and past the cricket club up to the Fire Station.
There's an idea. priority should go to all the fans who got to the Sherpa Van Trophy Final and, maybe, the FA Youth Cup Final at t'Turf in 1968.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri May 25, 2018 8:47 pm

Paul Waine wrote:There's an idea. priority should go to all the fans who got to the Sherpa Van Trophy Final and, maybe, the FA Youth Cup Final at t'Turf in 1968.

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It should go...

Hereford game - 100,000 points
Orient game - 80,000 points
Sherpa Van - 60,000 points
Pre 2009 posters on Clarets Mad - 40,000 points

General sale
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Re: Europe Away

Post by Paul Waine » Fri May 25, 2018 8:49 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:It should go...

Hereford game - 100,000 points
Orient game - 80,000 points
Sherpa Van - 60,000 points
Pre 2009 posters on Clarets Mad - 40,000 points

General sale
I'm guessing you missed the FA Youth Cup Final, Bin?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri May 25, 2018 8:50 pm

Paul Waine wrote:I'm guessing you missed the FA Youth Cup Final, Bin?
How can you tell? :D
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Re: Europe Away

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri May 25, 2018 8:55 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:It should go...

Hereford game - 100,000 points
Orient game - 80,000 points
Sherpa Van - 60,000 points
Pre 2009 posters on Clarets Mad - 40,000 points

General sale
Only 100,000 for that Hereford game!?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by jrgbfc » Fri May 25, 2018 8:58 pm

All this worrying about getting tickets. If you want to go get your travel booked then worry about tickets. Worst case scenario you're in the home end or partying in a European town/city with hundreds/thousands of other Clarets!

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri May 25, 2018 8:58 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Only 100,000 for that Hereford game!?
I know.

I've always said that my points system is a disgrace.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat May 26, 2018 12:41 am

Goodclaret wrote:Not sure I agree with supporters clubs getting priority for the European ties to be honest. Yes, they travel domestically on a regular basis and I don't mind the fact they get a batch for the PL but it's not as though they are going to run a coach to Belarus. I travel regularly to away games in the PL but (usually) drive. Why would they deserve a ticket more than me?
Ditto. I drive to every single away game. Never go on the coaches. But wouldnt begrudge them a batch of tickets.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 26, 2018 1:11 pm

Leisure wrote:Tony - I can see the League Cup 1st Round date on the list but can't see the 2nd round onward?
They've not been confirmed - will add them when I get them, similarly the FA Cup
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Post by Dyched » Sat May 26, 2018 1:17 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Ditto. I drive to every single away game. Never go on the coaches. But wouldnt begrudge them a batch of tickets.
Yep. Im also expecting the supporters clubs to provide transport to and from the airport (England) which would be a massive help in keeping costs down.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by dpinsussex » Sat May 26, 2018 1:36 pm

Draw 19th June.

Fixtures 26 July and 2nd August for the lazy people who can't be bothered to click on a link.
:) :) :)
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Re: Europe Away

Post by Nonayforever » Sat May 26, 2018 6:34 pm

I went to the FA youth cup final and patted either Leighton James or Steve Kindon on the back as they went up for the trophy.

I can't remember which one of the two played in the final ?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Winstonswhite » Sun May 27, 2018 8:42 am

dpinsussex wrote:Draw 19th June.

Fixtures 26 July and 2nd August for the lazy people who can't be bothered to click on a link.
:) :) :)
The draw might well be the 19th of June for the first and second rounds proper, but surely you only find out where you will definitely be playing once the first qualifying round has been decided- which is the week before (19th of July)?

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Re: Europe Away

Post by dpinsussex » Sun May 27, 2018 8:49 am

Winstonswhite wrote:The draw might well be the 19th of June for the first and second rounds proper, but surely you only find out where you will definitely be playing once the first qualifying round has been decided- which is the week before (19th of July)?
Correct. That's why it's going to be a logistical nightmare

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Re: Europe Away

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun May 27, 2018 9:07 am

I’m booking the 23rd July - 3rd August off work to cover both options :)

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Re: Europe Away

Post by piston broke » Sun May 27, 2018 9:11 am

Winstonswhite wrote:The draw might well be the 19th of June for the first and second rounds proper, but surely you only find out where you will definitely be playing once the first qualifying round has been decided- which is the week before (19th of July)?
I was informed, on another thread, we could, possibly, get a team who come in at our level. Without them being seeded.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by Croydon Claret » Sun May 27, 2018 9:15 am

It's going to be expensive if we only have potentially a weeks notice before booking anything.

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Re: Europe Away

Post by claretblue » Sun May 27, 2018 9:21 am

Paul Waine wrote:There's an idea. priority should go to all the fans who got to the Sherpa Van Trophy Final and, maybe, the FA Youth Cup Final at t'Turf in 1968.

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That’s my ticket sorted! :D

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Re: Europe Away

Post by bfcmik » Sun May 27, 2018 1:38 pm

What, no priority for the 37,243 people who were part of that record low crowd back in the 80s?

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