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ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:55 am
by ClaretTony
One off, one looking less likely with other clubs in

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Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:58 am
by Right_winger
Oh dear but fairly predictable. Bit of a disastrous transfer window this one

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:58 am
by Granny WeatherWax
Right_winger wrote:Oh dear but fairly predictable. Bit of a disastrous transfer window this one
Certainly is if things remain as they are now.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:59 am
by ClaretAndJew
Let's all **** ourselves into a "bring him home" coma.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:03 am
by randomclaret2
Sorry ?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:08 am
by NottsClaret
Right_winger wrote:Oh dear but fairly predictable. Bit of a disastrous transfer window this one
I've not been following stuff too closely, but I've heard about us signing Gibson and not selling anyone. Is that a disaster?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:08 am
by summitclaret
So far we have spent around the bonus from finishing 7th rather than 17th. Come on burnley get it sorted.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:10 am
by Granny WeatherWax
NottsClaret wrote:I've not been following stuff too closely, but I've heard about us signing Gibson and not selling anyone. Is that a disaster?
Sure is

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:15 am
by IWOODLOVETT
THE LOAN MARKET LOOMS LARGE.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:15 am
by SkiptonClaret
We desperately needed another centre half so adding Gibson is an excellent bit of business. You would hope we have alternatives to Rodriguez and Clucas, if not then undoubtedly a poor window.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:16 am
by SkiptonClaret
IWOODLOVETT wrote:THE LOAN MARKET LOOMS LARGE.
Hope not as it’s proved largely pointless in the past.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:19 am
by Steddyman
I’d said all along that we’d play brinkmanship with Jay then get to the last day of the window and somebody else would come in for him. Should have paid the asking price on this given how much he wanted to come.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:24 am
by summitclaret
My concern is spurs. I know jay would not start much, but the manager rates him. Wage wise we could not compete.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:24 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Steddyman wrote:I’d said all along that we’d play brinkmanship with Jay then get to the last day of the window and somebody else would come in for him. Should have paid the asking price on this given how much he wanted to come.
Your talents are wasted posting on this messageboard! Get down to the club and get yourself a job sorting all our transfers out.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:24 am
by Indecisive
********.

Really wanted Jay. Maybe it is a bit of old fashioned romanticism, but who cares... I’m a football fan, we don’t always think logically.

20 mill for a striker who will probably have left little resale value is a lot though.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:24 am
by Right_winger
NottsClaret wrote:I've not been following stuff too closely, but I've heard about us signing Gibson and not selling anyone. Is that a disaster?
If that’s our window yep sure is. Gibson is Keanes replacement from last year/we desperately required more options at CB anyway.

We are very short on quality from am attaching sense.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:25 am
by mkmel
I don't think you are allowed any loans in the Premier League after the window shuts

So even loans will have to be sorted by Thursday

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:28 am
by Bordeauxclaret
With another potential 10-15 games to cope with from last season, losing a few squad players and only adding one would be seen as a bit of a disaster I think.
I’m confident we’ll bring another two or three in though starting with Hart.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:30 am
by Rick_Muller
Right_winger wrote:If that’s our window yep sure is. Gibson is Keanes replacement from last year/we desperately required more options at CB anyway.

We are very short on quality from am attaching sense.
Yeah I know what you mean, after we failed to replace Keane we had a really crap season finishing only 7th - FFS we could of won the league if we had signed loads of players last year...

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:33 am
by HiroshimaClaret
If true, alleluia for the former, a shame for the latter.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:33 am
by NottsClaret
Right_winger wrote:If that’s our window yep sure is. Gibson is Keanes replacement from last year/we desperately required more options at CB anyway.

We are very short on quality from am attaching sense.
Nah, we'll be fine. It's nowhere near a disaster. And don't start this 'replacement' thing again, Keane left yonks ago. It doesn't have to be one in, one out going back to 1882.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:34 am
by BigChaCha
Don't worry ..... listen to The Happy Clappers and Believe!

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Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:38 am
by NottsClaret
BigChaCha wrote:Don't worry ..... listen to The Happy Clappers and Believe!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzIGWkxjNBM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If you're not happy, clapping and believing after the last five or six years then it's probably time to accept it's never going to make you happy.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:39 am
by burnley007
I'll decide on Thursday at 5.01pm

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:43 am
by Spijed
How can it be a disaster that we now have one of the best defences and set of goalkeepers in the Prem?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:44 am
by Dyched
So the deal “could be off” due something cropping up on his medical.

What the **** is everyones problem then? You want the club to go ahead and sign him anyway?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:46 am
by Granny WeatherWax
Dyched wrote:So the deal “could be off” due something cropping up on his medical.

What the **** is everyones problem then? You want the club to go ahead and sign him anyway?
Of course not.

The issues is that having so few targets is that it makes going for a replacement difficult, especially given we do our deals in the last throws of the window.

We will see though.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:47 am
by ayrshireclaret83
Still confident that Jay will be a claret by the close of the window

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:48 am
by martin_p
Maybe other teams being in the picture for Rodriguez will focus the club’s mind a little.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:49 am
by HiroshimaClaret
Is there a `domestic` option available for the `No.10` role?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:51 am
by D8BFC
I wonder how much that Number 10 who played for Espanyol would cost yesterday?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:53 am
by Dyched
Granny WeatherWax wrote:Of course not.

The issues is that having so few targets is that it makes going for a replacement difficult, especially given we do our deals in the last throws of the window.

We will see though.
Oh yes I can see it now

We lose out on our 1st target but sign the 2nd. “This clubs a joke, cant sign our first target, disastrous”

Eh? Im right ain't I?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:55 am
by Bangers&Mash
Jay is that desperate to come he wants double the wage of any other player.

Not surprised though, being a fan counts for nothing when it's your job. Very few on here would accept less money to work for the club than they are getting already. Doesn't stop you being a super fan, just putting family first.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:58 am
by Granny WeatherWax
Dyched wrote:Oh yes I can see it now

We lose out on our 1st target but sign the 2nd. “This clubs a joke, cant sign our first target, disastrous”

Eh? Im right ain't I?
why would anyone criticise the club for signing their 2nd choice midfielder as their 1st choice was injured?

The interesting bit is do we actually have 2nd choice?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:01 am
by Nonayforever
Even if other clubs offer more than us for Jay, that doesn't mean he will want to go there, from what I've heard he wants to come here and therefore it's either us or he stays put.
It's just a matter of matching other clubs offers.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:03 am
by BigChaCha
Nah, we'll be fine. It's nowhere near a disaster. And don't start this 'replacement' thing again, Keane left yonks ago. It doesn't have to be one in, one out going back to 1882.
That's not what SD thinks. He recently said that having only 3 recognised central defenders last season was "tricky".

A blind man on a galloping horse can see that and it was a big risk that luckily we got away with.

It's surprising tbh because SD did the same thing when he got us promoted the first time by not adding to the midfield depth which we were crying out for, resulting in relegation because of no back up when Marney got injured!

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:04 am
by jlup1980
If the rumours about Mee are correct and he's close to signing a new deal then we're done from defensive viewpoint. Same with GK's if Hart signs in today.

We're still lacking another midfielder and a number 10 / winger but they could still happen. There's plenty of time to get a couple of deals over the line. Brentford wouldn't be a bad place to start - Woods and Watkins would be more than welcome.

For all the moaning from the many, I still believe the club knows exactly what it's doing. We had Mawson over the line by all accounts, then it fell through and we sorted Gibson ASAP. Pope's injury has blindsided us a little as I don't think a GK was part of the plan but we've dealt with that quickly. We've tried with Jay Rod but rightly won't pay silly money for him. It'll all come together over the next few days.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:14 am
by claretspice
To end up going into this season with only 7 senior players to fill what is regularly 5 midfield berths, with 2 of those 7 struggling to recover from lengthy injury lay offs, would be negligent.

As was ending up in a situation where we only had 3 centre backs last season. The fact that the risk nrver materialised doesn't change that fact. If youre driving a car whilst wearing a blindfold, the fact you escape without incident doesnt change the fact its a reckless thing to do.

Gibson is an excellent signing. But it doesn't chamge the fact that, once again, we're at serious risk of ending up failing to land key targets and in the case of Rodriguez that appears to be after we've spent 2 months messing around without taking the initiative to get a deal done.

Work to be done this week.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:23 am
by Rileybobs
claretspice wrote:To end up going into this season with only 7 senior players to fill what is regularly 5 midfield berths, with 2 of those 7 struggling to recover from lengthy injury lay offs, would be negligent.

As was ending up in a situation where we only had 3 centre backs last season. The fact that the risk nrver materialised doesn't change that fact. If youre driving a car whilst wearing a blindfold, the fact you escape without incident doesnt change the fact its a reckless thing to do.

Gibson is an excellent signing. But it doesn't chamge the fact that, once again, we're at serious risk of ending up failing to land key targets and in the case of Rodriguez that appears to be after we've spent 2 months messing around without taking the initiative to get a deal done.

Work to be done this week.
Whilst I don’t disagree with your post, wasn’t it reported that Dyche was happy with Taylor as cover for left-sided centre half? Sounds less than ideal but we’ve not seen him play there so it’s not possible to judge.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:39 am
by Woodleyclaret
We dont need Clucas Dwight Mc can step up but we do need a box finishing 20 goals a season striker.
We dont score enough and need Jays creativity £20m is the price we need to pay to sort it out

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:43 am
by Rileybobs
Woodleyclaret wrote:We dont need Clucas Dwight Mc can step up but we do need a box finishing 20 goals a season striker.
We dont score enough and need Jays creativity £20m is the price we need to pay to sort it out
You do know that only Salah, Kane, Aguero and Vardy were the only players to score 20 goals last season?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:52 am
by cutsy123
ClaretAndJew wrote:Let's all **** ourselves into a "bring him home" coma.
i'm glad he's not coming. we can do better

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:55 am
by Goobs
cutsy123 wrote:i'm glad he's not coming. we can do better
You got any realistic names?

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:59 am
by claretblue
'...The Rodriguez chase has been ongoing all summer...'

wrong verb Tony! :?

:cry:

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:00 pm
by cutsy123
Goobs wrote:You got any realistic names?
its not a point of names.

I dont think we should be looking to re-sign players who have left. It's like they are running out of ideas, and trying to bring anybody in

there is a vast network of strikers younger and better

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:02 pm
by claretblue
D8BFC wrote:I wonder how much that Number 10 who played for Espanyol would cost yesterday?
more important...how much would he cost today? :D

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:02 pm
by NRC
Call one of them out from the network then

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:20 pm
by tybfc
Clucas deal off as personal terms can't be agreed.

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:40 pm
by Pstotto
Iweropinthewergonnasignjohnchiedozie...

Re: ARTICLE: Clucas and Rodriguez signings beginning to look less likely

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:41 pm
by bfcjg
TBH not bothered for either.