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Souness!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:12 pm
by IanMcL
Graham Souness ripping into the naff football in the prem.

Love it. Dead right.

British game traditionally tough and uncompromising and as our Sean would say....honest.

Now refs blow for any squeal and fall.

Hope the orem realise that was our unique selling point before it is too late.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:00 pm
by yTib
the beginning of the end was when footballers started turning up wearing gloves.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:01 pm
by boatshed bill
yTib wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:00 pm
the beginning of the end was when footballers started turning up wearing gloves.
Actually it was shin pads, followed by long sleeves. :D

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:20 pm
by EricaJacko
Souness and Roy Keane say it how it is. They don't mess about.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:31 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
It was actually when some of the players from the continent turned up and the definition of 'character' changed.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:01 am
by RammyClaret61
IanMcL wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:12 pm
Hope the orem realise that was our unique selling point before it is too late.
Unfortunately I think it already is. :cry:

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:29 am
by elwaclaret
In my world, you fall over when you can no longer stand up. You don’t move when you are hurt. If a player is rolling about it is cheating. If you could have played on and don’t it is cheating. Referees are there to see shirt pulls and late tackles and have VAR to double check every decision... let’s have less decisions and more football.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 3:12 am
by RammyClaret61
elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:29 am
In my world, you fall over when you can no longer stand up. You don’t move when you are hurt. If a player is rolling about it is cheating. If you could have played on and don’t it is cheating. Referees are there to see shirt pulls and late tackles and have VAR to double check every decision... let’s have less decisions and more football.
Exactly. Remember when you had to be physically brought down for a foul. Not this “there was contact, so had a right to go down” sh1te.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:03 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:31 pm
It was actually when some of the players from the continent turned up and the definition of 'character' changed.
Can’t say characters like zola. Bergkamp. Henry. Asprilla. Cantona. Vieira. Ginola. Di canio changed it for the worse.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:22 am
by timshorts
elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 2:29 am
You don’t move when you are hurt. If a player is rolling about it is cheating.
Having popped both achilles tendons while playing, I can safely say that this bit isn't necessarily true. It may be if you break a bone in which case it probably hurts to move but when you badly sprain an ankle or ping a tendon it's another matter.
Rolling over and over though is completely unnatural though. Writhing, thumping the ground, holding the popped item and swearing a lot are all to be expected.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:49 am
by PremierLeagueClass
Much as I like Souness, he’s starting to reach his sell by date now. Too many “in my day” rants.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:29 am
by TopCat
PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:49 am
Much as I like Souness, he’s starting to reach his sell by date now. Too many “in my day” rants.
But he is not wrong.
Still one of the best for me.

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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:53 am
by Bin Ont Turf
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:03 am
Can’t say characters like zola. Bergkamp. Henry. Asprilla. Cantona. Vieira. Ginola. Di canio changed it for the worse.
Note the word 'some'.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 9:59 am
by Swizzlestick
PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:49 am
Much as I like Souness, he’s starting to reach his sell by date now. Too many “in my day” rants.
100% this. He’s not a great pundit at all, provides no real tactical insight and just falls back into cliched, ‘back in my day’ rants which gets the hits on social media I guess. Keane is the same.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:01 am
by Swizzlestick
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:31 pm
It was actually when some of the players from the continent turned up and the definition of 'character' changed.
Which players?

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:10 am
by Bigvince
All I can say is when I turn on to watch a game, and sourness and Roy Keane are the pundits I’m more than happy

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:16 am
by IanMcL
boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:01 pm
Actually it was shin pads, followed by long sleeves. :D
Well I thought it had started to look iffy, when Burnley played in their stripey pyjamas, in that 'original 12' picture!😁

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:19 am
by IanMcL
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:31 pm
It was actually when some of the players from the continent turned up and the definition of 'character' changed.
I remember when Jurgen Klinsmann arrived, a notorious diver.

He didn't dive. When asked, he said that he came to the Prem because it was an honest league and fair play still counted. He wanted to embrace that, not abuse it.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:23 am
by IanMcL
timshorts wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 8:22 am
Having popped both achilles tendons while playing, I can safely say that this bit isn't necessarily true. It may be if you break a bone in which case it probably hurts to move but when you badly sprain an ankle or ping a tendon it's another matter.
Rolling over and over though is completely unnatural though. Writhing, thumping the ground, holding the popped item and swearing a lot are all to be expected.
I headed the pavement, with my face, last week. I laid very still for some time, clutching the side of my face, which was telling me is was hurt, in no uncertain terms!

Wriggling was not an option!

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:30 am
by RalphCoatesComb
Says it like it is, or was.

Probably too late to recover it for football now. Pretending to be hurt when you're not is simply cheating but, the authorities have no will to stamp out cheating.

It would be an interesting stat to see which teams, and which players within teams, spend the most time rolling about on the floor for nothing. My guess is that we'd be pretty low down that league.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:47 am
by SalisburyClaret
RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:30 am
Says it like it is, or was.

Probably too late to recover it for football now. Pretending to be hurt when you're not is simply cheating but, the authorities have no will to stamp out cheating.

It would be an interesting stat to see which teams, and which players within teams, spend the most time rolling about on the floor for nothing. My guess is that we'd be pretty low down that league.
We'd have been relegated

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:05 am
by RalphCoatesComb
SalisburyClaret wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:47 am
We'd have been relegated
That's a relegation I can take ;)

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:09 am
by MrTopTier
Since the Lacazette incident the other week. There have been pundits calling it out a bit more. The Son incident against Utd was also put in the spotlight. The fact that more pundits and managers are calling it means that people like Dyche who have been calling out for years have now got some well needed back up.

As for the assertion that the character of the game changed when all the fancy foreigners came here is nonsense.The greatest diver in English football was Francis Lee probably only matched in the modern era by Jamie Vardy.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:21 am
by Suratclaret
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:23 am
I headed the pavement, with my face, last week. I laid very still for some time, clutching the side of my face, which was telling me is was hurt, in no uncertain terms!

Wriggling was not an option!
But did you scream?!

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:32 pm
by Hipper
I don't want football to go back to the days of 'assassins' - the likes of Ron Harris, Norman Hunter and don't forget, Roy Keane. Quality players need to be allowed to play and we now have the pitches where they can do this and the Laws and practices to stop it.

Of course I do not like cheating in any form which is perhaps what they are talking about?

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:38 pm
by tim_noone
MrTopTier wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:09 am
Since the Lacazette incident the other week. There have been pundits calling it out a bit more. The Son incident against Utd was also put in the spotlight. The fact that more pundits and managers are calling it means that people like Dyche who have been calling out for years have now got some well needed back up.

As for the assertion that the character of the game changed when all the fancy foreigners came here is nonsense.The greatest diver in English football was Francis Lee probably only matched in the modern era by Jamie Vardy.
Francis Lee indeed the greatest of Divers..... I think your mistaking Vardy ....with Salah of Liverpool. I think Jamie Vardy is a very honest Footballer tbf.

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:50 pm
by IanMcL
Suratclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:21 am
But did you scream?!
Excellent! :lol:

The answer is that I took it on the chin, like Burnley!

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:13 pm
by Belgianclaret
I thought Hutchinson was an excellent diver, used to tap his own back heel to create some noise and then went down like a stone

Re: Souness!!!

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:40 pm
by Stayingup
boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:01 pm
Actually it was shin pads, followed by long sleeves. :D
Then it got to snoods and tights. Oooh.