• ARTICLE: Wood completes Newcastle move

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:35 am**

A bit late this morning but only just picked up the confirmed news

See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/wood-compl ... astle-move

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:38 am**

I thank Chris Wood for all he did for us and his excellent scoring record in a goals per game basis.

I remember his first as a sub at Spurs and if Brentford was his last, that was a good 'un too.

I must hope he doesn't score for them at all until in a different league to us. Otherwise, I wish him well.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:10 pm**

Have to say I find it slightly bemusing that up until Tuesday this week the media always seemed to stereotype Chris Wood as an "ultra physical Burnley lump" with little skill. Since Tuesday he seems to have the skill of Pele, Ronaldo and Messi rolled into one according to the expert Sky pundits....or is that me being cynical?

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:33 pm**

Am I right thinking only Jay Rod available out of the 5 forward players currently? And some supporters seem to think it's a good deal.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:35 pm**

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:33 pm
Am I right thinking only Jay Rod available out of the 5 forward players currently? And some supporters seem to think it's a good deal.

I think Jay is the only one fit to start. Don't know what they are doing regarding Vydra and the injury. This is anything but a good deal for us.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:44 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:35 pm
I think Jay is the only one fit to start. Don't know what they are doing regarding Vydra and the injury. This is anything but a good deal for us.

Totally agree, yet many posters think it is a good deal. The timing could not be worse, especially given the 2 crucial home games coming up.

CT are you now satisfied that the Club had no choice but to sell?

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:53 pm**

Like you, CT I've seen lots of 'lows' in my time following my favourite football club and of course situations have been more serious than in past years. However, this is bizarre. To weaken your squad( and indirectly supplement that of a relegation rival), have people eulogising about what we can now do with the money and presumably 'prepare' for a dog-fight that may include other personnel with little or no heart for it is pretty shameful, dispiriting and nothing more than amateurish. Just totally incredible.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:02 pm**

I'm amazed we are selling voluntary but if the fee is close to the rumoured 25m it's a lot for a currently out of form striker. I'm also quite surprised they see him as an answer for that price but it's a neat trick to destabilise us and of course money isn't an issue for them

I like Wood. I think he has been one of ourbest players and losing him is a generally bad thing. But if he's going anyway nearer to he end of his contract then getting a big wedge is preferable.

Given his form has been poor in frontnof goal we aren't losing s lot there but I think he offers a lot more than people give him credit for.

I wish him well but frankly I hope he can't net anything in the next 5 months (sorry Chris - I hope you get relegated with the sneaky fu js at Newcastle

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:25 pm**

Wood wasn’t going to be the difference maker on us staying up this season. He has been so poor. Realistically we are probably down already, 20m at least gives us some money to start a rebuild.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:44 pm**

BabylonClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:02 pm

Given his form has been poor in frontnof goal we aren't losing s lot there but I think he offers a lot more than people give him credit for.

You would certainly not be alone in believing that to be the case but the stats tell a very different story. Over the past 5 season totalling 144 PL games Chris Wood has provided just 7 Assists (3 last season being the most) and has provided ZERO Assists this season alongside his 3 goals.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:03 pm**

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:53 pm
Like you, CT I've seen lots of 'lows' in my time following my favourite football club and of course situations have been more serious than in past years. However, this is bizarre. To weaken your squad( and indirectly supplement that of a relegation rival), have people eulogising about what we can now do with the money and presumably 'prepare' for a dog-fight that may include other personnel with little or no heart for it is pretty shameful, dispiriting and nothing more than amateurish. Just totally incredible.

If you are in a dog fight, the minimum requirement is that you actually have a dog.

We had no choice really, and there’s time to replace him with someone who is actually up for it. He certainly wasn’t, his own words are testament to that.

I have ALWAYS been supportive of Wood, so I am not coming at this from the position of one of his “knockers” so I state the following with that in mind.
What’s incredible is even after hearing his departing words, people still think we have lost an asset, someone you’d want around in a scrap. We absolutely haven’t. We’ve got spectacular money for a “professional” athlete who either can’t or won’t motivate himself. For the last 6 months, he’s been stealing money. I couldn’t care less whether he’s been half decent for the rest of the time, nor do I care about his goal scoring record. He’s one of the main reasons we are where we are, and we are well rid.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 pm**

Forgive me, I was always under the impression that if a player left the club there would be one ready to replace him. There isn't as far as I can see but, as you say, we've got some money, slowly depreciating as I write.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:51 pm**

Doesn’t seem to be much love loss between the club and Wood judging by both sides articles which is a surprise for what is supposed to be a united dressing room.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:04 pm**

Silkyskills - "presumably 'prepare' for a dog-fight that may include other personnel with little or no heart for it is pretty shameful, dispiriting and nothing more than amateurish. Just totally incredible."

No choice he used his contract terms to leave and has said he was"playing in his comfort zone". Doesn't sound like someone up for a dogfight to me. I think to call the club amateurish is ignoring the facts.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:07 pm**

Petersa wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:10 pm
Have to say I find it slightly bemusing that up until Tuesday this week the media always seemed to stereotype Chris Wood as an "ultra physical Burnley lump" with little skill. Since Tuesday he seems to have the skill of Pele, Ronaldo and Messi rolled into one according to the expert Sky pundits....or is that me being cynical?

absolutely spot on

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:17 pm**

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:44 pm
Totally agree, yet many posters think it is a good deal. The timing could not be worse, especially given the 2 crucial home games coming up.

CT are you now satisfied that the Club had no choice but to sell?

The club will hopefully learn not to include clauses like this release one in future contacts. Trippier, also at Newcastle left for a song.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:29 pm**

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 pm
Forgive me, I was always under the impression that if a player left the club there would be one ready to replace him. There isn't as far as I can see but, as you say, we've got some money, slowly depreciating as I write.

We’ve been well and truly caught out with this deal. Now we are searching frantically for a replacement with any potential selling club knowing how desperate we are.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:31 pm**

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:17 pm
The club will hopefully learn not to include clauses like this release one in future contacts. Trippier, also at Newcastle left for a song.

You do realise that a player can demand a release clause if he wants ? He can also decline to sign a new contract if the club doesn't agree to a release clause. Release clauses are pretty common.

The club therefore, have nothing to learn.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:32 pm**

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:17 pm
The club will hopefully learn not to include clauses like this release one in future contacts. Trippier, also at Newcastle left for a song.

Doubt there is much they can do as players have all the power. What would be a disaster is if we were not actively planning for Wood's replacement when he had a release clause. Indeed that would be negligent.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:33 pm**

brunlea99 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:31 pm
You do realise that a player can demand a release clause if he wants ? He can also decline to sign a new contract if the club doesn't agree to a release clause. Release clauses are pretty common.

The club therefore, have nothing to learn.

At least someone understands how it works! The player has all the power in a negotiation, not the club! Wait until they find out what Cornets is

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:34 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:29 pm
We’ve been well and truly caught out with this deal. Now we are searching frantically for a replacement with any potential selling club knowing how desperate we are.

So we have been negligent then.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:35 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:29 pm
We’ve been well and truly caught out with this deal. Now we are searching frantically for a replacement with any potential selling club knowing how desperate we are.

I’m wondering if any other clubs have players who have a stupid release clause with no stipulations other than the fee

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:39 pm**

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:34 pm
So we have been negligent then.

I’m not sure how it can be considered negligent. I would assume there will be other clubs with such clauses and you always run this particular risk if one is triggered. I’m not sure what the club could have done to prevent this.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:40 pm**

joey13 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:35 pm
I’m wondering if any other clubs have players who have a stupid release clause with no stipulations other than the fee

I would think most clubs will have although I’ve obviously no examples.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:43 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:39 pm
I’m not sure how it can be considered negligent. I would assume there will be other clubs with such clauses and you always run this particular risk if one is triggered. I’m not sure what the club could have done to prevent this.

What I meant was that we needed to be proactive in identifying replacements when we know that a key player has a release clause. If we haven't then it is negligent imo. It's basic risk management.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:43 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:39 pm
I’m not sure how it can be considered negligent. I would assume there will be other clubs with such clauses and you always run this particular risk if one is triggered. I’m not sure what the club could have done to prevent this.

Plenty of clubs insert clauses stipulating things like , can only be released if a top 4 club comes in or you won’t be sold to a rival ,hasn’t Tarkowski got something like that in his ?

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:48 pm**

joey13 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:43 pm
Plenty of clubs insert clauses stipulating things like , can only be released if a top 4 club comes in or you won’t be sold to a rival ,hasn’t Tarkowski got something like that in his ?

I’m sure I read that Tarky’s clause only related to nw clubs.

Have to say it wasn’t a very well inserted clause that’s allowed our main striker to join a rival at this stage of the season.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:53 pm**

Just saw Wood's interview on Sky - sounded very respectful towards BFC.

For him it obviously a case of improved terms and a 'bigger' profile club. Can't blame him for that.

Now we will see whether Pace is as (pro)active as all of us hope he would be.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:55 pm**

brunlea99 wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:31 pm
You do realise that a player can demand a release clause if he wants ? He can also decline to sign a new contract if the club doesn't agree to a release clause. Release clauses are pretty common.

The club therefore, have nothing to learn.

Of course I realize a player can demand such a clause. Likewise the buyer can refuse to allow it. There perhaps be another solution. However my point is the club should try to avoid an exact clause like this in future. If a player or more precisely his advisor doesn't agree so be it.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:00 pm**

Stayingup wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:55 pm
Of course I realize a player can demand such a clause. Likewise the buyer can refuse to allow it. There perhaps be another solution. However my point is the club should try to avoid an exact clause like this in future. If a player or more precisely his advisor doesn't agree so be it.

Wood confirmed he knew nothing about it, that he leaves all that stuff to his agent. When he signed that last deal with us it was an extension we wanted him to sign which leaves his advisors in a strong position.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:33 pm**

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:43 pm
What I meant was that we needed to be proactive in identifying replacements when we know that a key player has a release clause. If we haven't then it is negligent imo. It's basic risk management.

If that was the case, you’d be reviewing the transfer market (and also looking at players not on the market as it were) every couple of weeks for the entire time of a players contract, and doing that for every player in every position who has a release clause.

It’s unfeasible and unmanageable.

I don’t think the club have done anything wrong here - they certainly haven’t been negligent. If we hadn’t signed Wood those years ago because of the clause, the club wouldn’t been hammered and rightly so.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:54 pm**

A player that I could never really take to, despite some good returns. He’s a real hot and cold player, on a good run, you’d back him to score, on a bad run (and there have been a good few) he didn’t contribute anywhere near enough, in my eyes.

Despite not being his biggest fan, his departure leaves a hole that urgently needs filling. The positions that we need to start filling won’t come cheap!!

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:57 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:33 pm
If that was the case, you’d be reviewing the transfer market (and also looking at players not on the market as it were) every couple of weeks for the entire time of a players contract, and doing that for every player in every position who has a release clause.

It’s unfeasible and unmanageable.

I don’t think the club have done anything wrong here - they certainly haven’t been negligent. If we hadn’t signed Wood those years ago because of the clause, the club wouldn’t been hammered and rightly so.

That's not how it should work surely. If it was me I would have a standing list of players that may be suitable for every position where there was a release clause. Similarly for all upcoming ooc player.

It's not unfeasible or unmanageable. It's common sense forward planning/ risk management.

Also, there is nothing wrong with release clauses in principle, but surely a Club would try to insist on it only being applicable in Summer windows. It has been alleged that this could have been the case with Wood's contract.

It's actually worse than I initially thought though. It's one thing failing to plan for Wood leaving. However, surely we were planning for no Jay, Ash or Vydra from June? So why are we apparently scrambling around to get a striker in and likely to be held to ransom. Sorry, no. I am afraid it's another own goal and maybe even worse than Marneygate.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:45 pm**

Ashley Barnes will rise like a Phoenix

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:49 pm**

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:45 pm
Ashley Barnes will rise like a Phoenix

You know what, I think he might. I know it's long shot, but I think he has the fight. It's gonna need something like that because I just can't see us attracting a decent striker atm.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:57 pm**

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:45 pm
Ashley Barnes will rise like a Phoenix

Pat love bring yer boots

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:52 pm**

He’s not been interested and admits he’s been in his comfort zone. I don’t understand that comment from any footballers. I still plat at 51 for Garstang walking football and take it serious. Every game should be played as if it’s your last game. He’s been handsomely payed and it makes my blood boil watching players who can’t be arsed.

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:37 pm**

Have NUFC announced Junior Stanislas yet?

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:41 pm**

In view of his ‘comfort zone’ comments , this is one player we didn’t want in the dressing room at the moment as we fight relegation.
And there will be more , won’t there Mr Tarkowski ?

Posted: **Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:43 pm**

Agree Tarks next with a bit of luck

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:15 am**

As I mentioned in a different thread (before this transfer was confirmed) I'm kind of gutted about this. Have watched every Burnley match this season (including finding dodgy streams of every cup game) at mostly 3 am NZ time; setting alarm clocks and the works. I started with wanting to watch Wood, as not many NZ players play in the top leagues and I've always wanted an EPL team to follow.... but ended up caring about the result too and getting to know the other players.

That will teach me for following a player, rather than a team I guess... I honestly thought Wood would retire there, and I'd keep supporting you lot after he leaves. Probably hard for many English fans to understand... but NZ is a pretty **** football nation so it's easy to become a 'fan boy' of a player rather than a team when we get someone playing EPL. As a NZ fan I still want Wood to bang in goals for Newcastle, yet the more I think about it, in my heart I want Burnley to be the team that stays up out of the two; have always liked the underdog (as opposed to the rich Saudi money). I've followed Woods career closely and know he's a very nice guy (based on numerous accounts of fans, etc, that have meet him) so from a personal view will still watch his Newcastle matches and cheer for him but I can understand why you lot would be ****** at him given the relegation situation.

A little off topic... but make my life easier with continuing to follow Burnley and sign another kiwi (because clearly this board has that power)! There is a youngish (22) kiwi guy Joe Bell in the norway top flight who is a class midfielder; especially if you get relegated (I hope not) he should be good enough for the Championship as is and imo has the potential to be an EPL midfielder.

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:24 am**

He certainly divided opinion and to me whilst he was scoring you tolerated his shortcomings in other areas but this year his lack of goals has had me starting to question his starting place.

Considering that there are only a handful of players that improve upon leaving us and I don’t think Wood will fall into that category it is probably the optimum time to sell and a good deal for us.

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:50 pm**

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:49 pm
You know what, I think he might. I know it's long shot, but I think he has the fight. It's gonna need something like that because I just can't see us attracting a decent striker atm.

I love Ashley Barnes attitude and approach and he could be the guy to rally the troops on the pitch. Come on Barnesey!

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:38 pm**

My opinion on release clauses: Why aren't they secret and then if triggered the player goes?

To me it seems that a player or agent should not be able to "Leak" a release clause- They should void the terms of their contract if they do so.

Would it not be much better to have clubs actually bid what they think a player is worth, and if they so happen to trigger a release clause then lucky them. I don't see how it's fair that a player can insert the clause and then leak it to secure a deal. It literally gives the club no power at all. It stinks!

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:05 pm**

Just out of interest, was he one of our highest earners. Think I read Mee was our highest? Imagine he’ll get a substantial increase at Newcastle.

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:07 pm**

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 14, 2022 2:38 pm
My opinion on release clauses: Why aren't they secret and then if triggered the player goes?

To me it seems that a player or agent should not be able to "Leak" a release clause- They should void the terms of their contract if they do so.

Would it not be much better to have clubs actually bid what they think a player is worth, and if they so happen to trigger a release clause then lucky them. I don't see how it's fair that a player can insert the clause and then leak it to secure a deal. It literally gives the club no power at all. It stinks!

How do you suggest it could be enforced?

Posted: **Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:09 pm**

I think where BFC went wrong was allowing a release clause that works in mid-season. I would expect (and so should most players, I would think) that release clauses would be reasonable for close season, but not January.

As for Trippier mentioned above, the reported £3.5m release clause was a pretty good amount for a player with no PL experience, and surely more than we would have got if we had sold him that summer instead of extending his contract. His value a year later would have been £nil, out of contract.

Posted: **Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:35 am**

nixclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:15 am
As I mentioned in a different thread (before this transfer was confirmed) I'm kind of gutted about this. Have watched every Burnley match this season (including finding dodgy streams of every cup game) at mostly 3 am NZ time; setting alarm clocks and the works. I started with wanting to watch Wood, as not many NZ players play in the top leagues and I've always wanted an EPL team to follow.... but ended up caring about the result too and getting to know the other players.

That will teach me for following a player, rather than a team I guess... I honestly thought Wood would retire there, and I'd keep supporting you lot after he leaves. Probably hard for many English fans to understand... but NZ is a pretty **** football nation so it's easy to become a 'fan boy' of a player rather than a team when we get someone playing EPL. As a NZ fan I still want Wood to bang in goals for Newcastle, yet the more I think about it, in my heart I want Burnley to be the team that stays up out of the two; have always liked the underdog (as opposed to the rich Saudi money). I've followed Woods career closely and know he's a very nice guy (based on numerous accounts of fans, etc, that have meet him) so from a personal view will still watch his Newcastle matches and cheer for him but I can understand why you lot would be ****** at him given the relegation situation.

A little off topic... but make my life easier with continuing to follow Burnley and sign another kiwi (because clearly this board has that power)! There is a youngish (22) kiwi guy Joe Bell in the norway top flight who is a class midfielder; especially if you get relegated (I hope not) he should be good enough for the Championship as is and imo has the potential to be an EPL midfielder.

Sorry, I tried to draw attention to a couple of candidates that could have increased our NZ contingent, but they fell on deaf ears at the time. One of them was Bell and the other was Liberato Cacace.

Looking back at the players I suggested in these threads is a bit eye opening. Despite restricting myself to players who I suspected would move for small amounts ( that subsequently did ) the majority have gone on to do very well at their new clubs. Quite a few going on to be leading players in their respective leagues.

The newspapers even suggested we were interested in Fulgini ( after he lit up the French league in the two seasons after he made my tombola pick list - at a time when he was in the last year of his contract and his club was struggling financially ). That one was annoying because we obviously looked at the club and decided to chase after Santamaria late in the window ( another good player, but one that had already agreed on a move by all accounts ) and we ignored Fulgini. Sadly, I suspect he is now regarded as a 10-15m player or more, which would end any Winter interest in him ( not that he would be chomping at the bit to come to us now ).

Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:33 pm
In terms of central midfielders, Dan Barlaser ( who looked good in relegated Rotherham last season and when he was playing at Accrington the season before ) and Jamie McGrath ( who was excellent for St Mirren last season and is attracting a bit of interest in this window, with 500K being the rumoured price point clubs will have to reach to sign him ) are two that I like the look of.

My top pick for a young defensive midfielder, who could be viewed as a long term replacement for Cork, would be Patrick Berg of Boldo / Glimt, along with his left back team member Fredrik André Björkan whose contract ends this year. Sticking with Bodo / Glimt Alfons Sampsted is a right back we could look at, but I prefer Christian Dahle Borchgrevink of Valerenga.

The contract of Henrik Heggheim, a central defender, who plays for Viking FK is also set to end this season. I think he is well worth a look at and to a much lesser extent Halldor Stenevik, who plays as an inverted right wingerfor Stromsgodset. Sticking with those clubs Joe Bell, a central midfielder of Viking, caught my eye along with Johan Hove who plays for Stromgodset in the same position.

Yup, I watched the Norwegian Elite Serien last year.

Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:18 pm
Left Wing Backs

Ryan Manning
Max Lowe
Omar Richards
Anthony Caci (X)

Possibles - (F) Demetri Mitchell, (F) Liberato Cacace

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