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Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:12 pm
by ClaretTony
Chris Silverwood sacked as England cricket coach
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:14 pm
by SMClaret
Hurrah
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:16 pm
by CleggHall
Yes team selection in Australia was bizarre.
Of little help to Root but ECB chief exec Harrison should go too, without his bonuses.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:22 pm
by dougcollins
Comes as no surprise following Giles.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:30 pm
by dandeclaret
And next.... James Taylor.
Then they can start to put proper structures back in place, and get the balance between 4 day and one day development right.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:35 pm
by Milltown1882
Good start to the new dawn for the red ball game.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:35 pm
by Andreshotboots
Should never have been appointed, awful choice..
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:38 pm
by JarrowClaret
Why do sky say sacked and bbc/ ECB say that he stood down?
Either way it had to happen we have been awful away and just competitive at home for a number of years not sure it is entirely down to coaches and selection need some casualties further up the ECB chain methinks, Harrison is there anyone else left after that?
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:41 pm
by RVclaret
Excellent news!
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:45 pm
by joey13
How he got the job in the first place , I don’t understand.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:51 pm
by ClaretTony
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:30 pm
And next.... James Taylor.
Then they can start to put proper structures back in place, and get the balance between 4 day and one day development right.
And that’s exactly what it should be - getting the balance between the two formats right.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:15 pm
by tiger76
The right decision by the ECB, but unless there is radical root and branch reform of the county structures it won't matter who's at the helm.
I'd go much further and abolish the central contract system as well, guys who want to earn their England caps should be scoring runs in the domestic game, but that takes us back to the scheduling again, and until that situation is resolved England's batting woes will continue.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:18 pm
by bfcjg
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:12 pm
Chris Silverwood sacked as England cricket coach
He didn't see that coming,rather like our batsmen against the opposition bowlers.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:20 pm
by Gunfury
Hope they go for Gary Kirsten
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:21 pm
by ClaretTony
Gunfury wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:20 pm
Hope they go for Gary Kirsten
I think he’d be a good appointment
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:22 pm
by CleggHall
Andrew Gale is available!
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:23 pm
by Gunfury
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:21 pm
I think he’d be a good appointment
Me too…he did well with India and South Africa and the players said his coaching and advice improved their game,especially the batters which we need desperately
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:24 pm
by Milltown1882
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:21 pm
I think he’d be a good appointment
Kirsten or Ponting for me - although it would have to be split coaches if Ponting as I doubt he’d want that intense a schedule away from home from what he has said on podcasts recently.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:32 pm
by Buxtonclaret
Gunfury wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:20 pm
Hope they go for Gary Kirsten
Remember reading a good article a few years back attributed to Dhoni, who claimed Kirsten was the best thing that had happened to Indian cricket in years.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:40 pm
by Milltown1882
Bit left field but Langer is available after tomorrow.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:43 pm
by Colburn_Claret
About time
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:10 pm
by Quickenthetempo
tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:15 pm
The right decision by the ECB, but unless there is radical root and branch reform of the county structures it won't matter who's at the helm.
I'd go much further and abolish the central contract system as well, guys who want to earn their England caps should be scoring runs in the domestic game, but that takes us back to the scheduling again, and until that situation is resolved England's batting woes will continue.
I fail to see how taking money off players will help? It will just push even more of the better players to white ball franchise game.
Plus the counties will have less money as they would have to pick up their wages.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:29 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Took them far too long but got there in the end
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:31 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Should have gone half way through the India series last summer.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:42 pm
by jrgbfc
Milltown1882 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:40 pm
Bit left field but Langer is available after tomorrow.
Doesn't sound like Langer is too popular with the Aussie lads.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 9:56 pm
by CleggHall
Doesn’t matter who they choose as coach because you can’t play test cricket without opening batsmen. Sadly we haven’t got any!
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:45 pm
by Andreshotboots
Shane Warne. Knows the game inside out, knows English cricket inside out, a winner, played in some of the best teams on the planet, great man manager and would receive the ultimate respect from the players and staff. Give him a blank paper to re launch test cricket in this country.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:11 pm
by arise_sir_charge
Kirsten, Warne, Ponting all decent shouts.
I wouldn’t go near Langer, watching that The Test doc on Amazon he came across as a complete tool, the kind of bloke that with a decent side can get away with it but I could easily see players not responding to him if times were tough.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:32 pm
by claretabroad
I'm glad he's gone. Hopefully his replacement will do better.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:55 am
by ŽižkovClaret
dandeclaret wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:30 pm
And next.... James Taylor.
Then they can start to put proper structures back in place, and get the balance between 4 day and one day development right.
That make a quartet?
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:58 am
by tiger76
claretabroad wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:32 pm
I'm glad he's gone. Hopefully his replacement will do better.
Whoever takes over can't do any worse surely. He needed to go purely for his bizarre team selection during the Ashes tour.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:08 pm
by onewillieirvine
Looks like Thorpe has gone as well. Busy time for Strauss.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pm
by ClaretTony
Thorpe departure confirmed.
Root to continue as captain next month in West Indies.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:24 pm
by tiger76
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:24 pm
Thorpe departure confirmed.
Root to continue as captain next month in West Indies.
Wholesale clear out of the entire coaching staff it seems, no surprise Root continues as skip though as there's no obvious successor ATM.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:31 pm
by Vanders1994
tiger76 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:24 pm
Wholesale clear out of the entire coaching staff it seems, no surprise Root continues as skip though as there's no obvious successor ATM.
I'd hope there will be wholesale changes to the playing XI for the first test in the West Indies
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:43 pm
by tiger76
Vanders1994 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:31 pm
I'd hope there will be wholesale changes to the playing XI for the first test in the West Indies
Well if that's what you expect I think you may be in for disappointment, but we'll know when the squad is named.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:46 pm
by Vanders1994
tiger76 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:43 pm
Well if that's what you expect I think you may be in for disappointment, but we'll know when the squad is named.
It's not what I expect, I'm expecting to be disappointed
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:51 pm
by tiger76
Vanders1994 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:46 pm
It's not what I expect, I'm expecting to be disappointed
Sadly it's par for the course for an England cricket fans these days. It wouldn't even surprise me if the WI beat us, they come mighty close to winning in England a couple of summers ago, and they have arguably improved since then, well England have gone backwards at a rate of knots.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:54 pm
by ashtonlongsider
No surprise in Giles, Silverwood and Thorpe's carrying the can for the debacle down under this winter. I'm very surprised that Root's remaining as captain and I'm more shocked that Harrison still remains in position of CEO following the turmoil over the last 6 months of so.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:53 pm
by helmclaret
I think it will be Langer after the Windies tour.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:24 pm
by ClaretTony
ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 4:54 pm
No surprise in Giles, Silverwood and Thorpe's carrying the can for the debacle down under this winter. I'm very surprised that Root's remaining as captain and I'm more shocked that Harrison still remains in position of CEO following the turmoil over the last 6 months of so.
I don't think they could do much about the captaincy given we've not long to go before the tests in the West Indies and if we are going to get new people in three roles it might be best to get those appointments in place soon. Root's is the first name on the team sheet but I don't think he now has a long term future as captain.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:45 pm
by arise_sir_charge
helmclaret wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:53 pm
I think it will be Langer after the Windies tour.
I think Langer would be a disaster.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:18 pm
by Aclaret
Would prefer Kirsten to Langer.
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:20 pm
by joey13
Gunfury wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 8:20 pm
Hope they go for Gary Kirsten
So do I , but can’t see it , he’s to outspoken for the stuffed shirts at Lords
Re: Silverwood sacked
Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:53 pm
by tiger76
arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:45 pm
I think Langer would be a disaster.
I don't think he'll be a disaster I know he'll be a disaster, blimey! getting him would be jumping from the frying pan into the fire, anyone but him please.