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Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:46 pm
by Steve1956
Simply magnificent today...leads the line so well

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:57 pm
by RVclaret
Agree, thought he was terrific. Some really good movement, particularly for the goal.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:30 pm
by Bfc
He was dead on his feet at the finish, which isn’t surprising, given the shift he put in today.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:32 pm
by Vino blanco
A proper footballer, excellent today, some great link up play.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm
by Billy Balfour
He's great to watch.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:33 pm
by Hibsclaret
Great stuff from the Dutch master.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:35 pm
by mkmel
Worked his balls off today and excellent assist for our goal

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:38 pm
by jdrobbo
His work rate was unbelievable and I’m so pleased that he managed to get that assist. He deserved it.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:38 pm
by tiger76
Again he plays a huge part is creating the goal, and although he might not score many he's showing his undoubted class at vital moments.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:59 pm
by jedi_master
Excellent today

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
by beddie
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:08 pm
by HollandsPies
beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.
Christ on a bike, are you blind? :lol:

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:11 pm
by beddie
HollandsPies wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:08 pm
Christ on a bike, are you blind? :lol:
8-) 8-) 8-)

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:36 pm
by brunlea99
beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.
You must have missed a LOT of games in the eighties, nineties and noughties.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:44 pm
by scouseclaret
Have to say that except for a really well-worked goal, I thought the front three (Vout, Vyds and Jay) were all pretty poor today. Not one of them could make the ball stick, and though there was no shortage of effort, the number of times they gave the ball away was embarrassing.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:46 pm
by gandhisflipflop
I had Burnley fans at Norwich seriously trying to tell me that Wood was a better footballer. The mind boggles.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:48 pm
by willsclarets
He was fantastic in the second half, and has a bit of class about him. Lovely assist, and very nearly a similar one for Lennon.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:48 pm
by AlargeClaret
He certainly has his uses and can be awkward ,reads the game well, though he’s incredibly slow and seems unable to shoot while running without a heavy 2nd touch , poor in the air too for a giant . That said he’s up for it and plays for Burnley and has my total backing .

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:49 pm
by willsclarets
He was fantastic in the second half, and has a bit of class about him. Lovely assist, and very nearly a similar one for Lennon.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:52 pm
by SalisburyClaret
For someone so slow he does amazingly well covering in defence and closing down the opposition all over the pitch. Poorer in the air than you’d expect but compensated by having a good touch on the deck

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:54 pm
by Stacky_claret
beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.
Apart from the assist in a 1-0 win he did nothing 👍🏼
Oh and cover about 10 miles I would have thought 👍🏼
Oh and lead the line in a win over a very good team 👍🏼

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:55 pm
by Swizzlestick
An odd player in some ways as he’s pretty poor in the air and his physicality isn’t really that great, but his footwork and awareness really is outstanding. With these attributes, you really do wonder what on earth the scouts were communicating to Dyche, but now we’re playing it on the deck a bit more, he’s looking much more of an asset. Hard worker too. Thought he was v good today.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:59 pm
by NewClaret
Anyone see him collapse to the floor at the final whistle??

He ran himself in to the ground. Top effort Wout.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:07 pm
by DCWat
I didn’t think it was one of his better displays from an offensive perspective, barring the assist which he did well with.

He wasn’t helped by our midfield display, particularly in the first half, needing to be more focussed on their defensive duties.

Although they perhaps didn’t create the opportunities that their play deserved, Wolves certainly played the ball around very well. I’d love someone like Moutinho in our midfield.

Where Weghorst did do really well was with his work rate and defensive support. One of my biggest criticisms of Wood was that when not scoring goals, he tended to be anonymous for long periods. Weghorst may not have been at his best at his favoured end of the pitch, but he didn’t half out a shift in for the team.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:21 pm
by Burnley Ace
Woot, Woot, It’s the sound of da Police!!

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:22 pm
by Clarets4me
beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.
Funnily enough, I was just saying the other day that what our current Premier League squad needs is a Tony Hancock, Derek Parker or the 34 year old Ron Futcher .... ;)

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:28 pm
by clansman
He is a real curates egg of a player. Tremendous work rate and link up play but a poor header of the ball and no confidence in front of goal. Hopefully a goal or two will change that.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:40 pm
by bobinho
beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.
Wow. Just wow. Did you SEE Chris wood? 60 years and he’s the worst?

Utterly bizarre…..

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:43 pm
by bobinho
gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:46 pm
I had Burnley fans at Norwich seriously trying to tell me that Wood was a better footballer. The mind boggles.
Absolutely. Not even close. Chris wood can’t even spell “footballer”.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:51 pm
by Woodleyclaret
A class player with the work rate to match

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:03 pm
by dsr
Clarets4me wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:22 pm
Funnily enough, I was just saying the other day that what our current Premier League squad needs is a Tony Hancock, Derek Parker or the 34 year old Ron Futcher .... ;)
Les Lawrence?

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:17 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
I think what many forget is that Wolves have only shipped more away than City and Chelsea (and not many more). Less than a goal a game. That means strikers get suffocated. We saw that today with Dendonker and Moutinho playing very deep and a back three defending quite narrow. The space was down the channels before their wing backs tracked back, and lo and behold that was how we scored.

I thought Wout did very well in that context. We are playing to his strengths now and goals will come when he adapts to the defensive speed and solidity of this league which is way tougher than the Bundesliga.

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:26 pm
by FeedTheArf
As much as I like him and I think he’ll continue to get better with us the more he plays, PLEASE can we learn his name is like Vout, not Wooooooooooot!

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:36 pm
by NL Claret
Clarets4me wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:22 pm
Funnily enough, I was just saying the other day that what our current Premier League squad needs is a Tony Hancock, Derek Parker or the 34 year old Ron Futcher .... ;)
Ron Futcher was okay, we got him a few years after his best before date. Whenever I read the worst ever Burnley centre forward there is only one name that comes to mind........David Jones, the one Casper signed from Orient.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:40 pm
by Indecisive
beddie wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm
I must have been at a different game, apart from the ball he crossed for the goal I really don’t see anything in him at all, he can hardly run, he wins sod all in the air. After watching Burnley for over 60 years I have to say he’s one of the worst number 9s we’ve ever had.
Please 😂.

This is a wind up, right?

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:46 pm
by Andreshotboots
FeedTheArf wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:26 pm
As much as I like him and I think he’ll continue to get better with us the more he plays, PLEASE can we learn his name is like Vout, not Wooooooooooot!
Most of our fans couldn’t get Hendrick correct ( Hendricks), you’ve naff all chance with Wout and Voot mate 😀

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:02 pm
by Clarets4me
NL Claret wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:36 pm
Ron Futcher was okay, we got him a few years after his best before date. Whenever I read the worst ever Burnley centre forward there is only one name that comes to mind........David Jones, the one Casper signed from Orient.
There were a few I could have named !

Ron Futcher had a fine career, even at 34 his touch, hold up play and distribution were a class above what we'd seen for a while .... but when you're that slow that you're nicknamed " Rocket " in the 4th tier in 1990, the thought of him transported " Star Trek " style into the 2022 Premier League doesn't bear thinking about .... :D

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:05 pm
by Spiral
If someone who has watched Burnley for 60 years can't understand what he brings to the team it's because he's not doing what number 9s were asked to do 60 years ago. Football has moved on a bit since then! I think he's held to a certain standard and expectation in line with his height, but you need to look at what he does with his feet because that's where he's best, and if you ignore that and expect him to play as a physically aggressive battering ram you're missing out on what he can give us. In the brain-dead generic idea of English football of yesteryear so many players his height tended to be the final man in any passage of play and that was about the extent of their involvement in the game, but he's as useful to us as a No.10, and it's great to see we're playing to that strength of his. As much as I love Dyche I'd dare say WW's quieter games with us were quiet so because he was asked to play in that old fashioned way that doesn't play to his strengths. I think Dyche saw a 6'6" footballer and decided to play to that because it worked in the past with Wood and Vokes.

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:14 pm
by jdrobbo
Just a reminder that today we came up against one of the leagues VERY best defences and Weghorst (thanks to McNeil and some lovely team play) managed to unlock it!!!

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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:57 pm
by Rileybobs
Didn’t think he was great today. But he seemed over the moon with the assist, which was very well picked out, and that shows the character of the guy - he’s a team player. Goals will come as we learn to play to his strengths, but he’s been a great addition to the team.

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:13 am
by Boydesque
He was ok today
He s different to Chris wood
He s certainly not class
At times quite a few he s for what he cost shocking
But he somehow despite his first touch assisted or major winning goal
He gives everything as they all have in the last 3 games
I love football again
Seems like a eternity since Norwich
🤩

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:14 am
by Boydesque
What a goal that was by the way
Motd summed it up well

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:21 am
by Hibsclaret
With Wout 15 games 5 wins
Without Wout 18 games 1 win
We win with Wout and not without Wout

A bit of a tongue twister. I reckon he’s a pleasant —-cker’s son tbh.

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:00 am
by CharlieinNewMexico
Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:21 pm
Woot, Woot, It’s the sound of da Police!!
Where’s KRS Claret when you need him?

🤷🤷🤷🤷

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:52 am
by tiger76
He probably didn't have his best game yesterday, but he popped up with a match winning assist, and that's what matters, this lad influences games in the key moments.

Will he score loads, no probably not, but he will certainly lay on goals for others, and we just look a better footballing outfit with him, in a way we didn't with Wood up front, of course it helps when we play the ball on the deck as this plays to his strengths.

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:54 am
by ClaretAndBlue94
At least him celebrating in from of the CFS meant he knows he isnt getting booed when people try say his name.

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:35 am
by beddie
Indecisive wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:40 pm
Please 😂.

This is a wind up, right?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:48 am
by spt_claret
Spiral wrote:
Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:05 pm
If someone who has watched Burnley for 60 years can't understand what he brings to the team it's because he's not doing what number 9s were asked to do 60 years ago. Football has moved on a bit since then! I think he's held to a certain standard and expectation in line with his height, but you need to look at what he does with his feet because that's where he's best, and if you ignore that and expect him to play as a physically aggressive battering ram you're missing out on what he can give us. In the brain-dead generic idea of English football of yesteryear so many players his height tended to be the final man in any passage of play and that was about the extent of their involvement in the game, but he's as useful to us as a No.10, and it's great to see we're playing to that strength of his. As much as I love Dyche I'd dare say WW's quieter games with us were quiet so because he was asked to play in that old fashioned way that doesn't play to his strengths. I think Dyche saw a 6'6" footballer and decided to play to that because it worked in the past with Wood and Vokes.
He wasn't playing that way as such though. Look at heatmaps if you don't believe me, Jay was pushed up into the Wood role and Wout playing the Jay/Barnes deeper holdup and link role. It just wasn't working as effectively because Jay isn't great in that role, and Wout is better with his feet than chest and chest than head, and our more direct play meant more aerial balls(which Jay wasn't as good as Wood at, or Wout as good as Jay at). It's the buildup play to him that's changed not his playstyle and we did that buildup with Cork in back in February, just reverted soon after (possibly also because Pieters got injured and Cornet got a knock).

We'd supposedly been watching him for a while and I can believe that, if he was being envisioned as a Barnes/Jay upgrade, but we'd never have signed him in January without Wood leaving- even Pace confirmed this- so even if he was on our shortlist I doubt the original plan was to bring him in in the manner that we did. I think Wout alongside Wood with our old playstyle could have been very effective, but obviously didn't happen for many reasons, primarily money I'd guess.

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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:49 am
by ClaretPete001
Factually speaking, Wood scored 49 goals in a 149 games. A return of 3.4, which is an impressive achievement.

In 2017, he scored 10 in 24 at a rate of 2.4 goals per game to help the club achieve a seventh placed finish.

The best return a Burnley Forward has achieved in the modern era.

Re: Weghorst

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:34 am
by claretburns
ClaretPete001 wrote:
Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:49 am
In 2017, he scored 10 in 24 at a rate of 2.4 goals per game to help the club achieve a seventh placed finish.
If he had scored 2.4 goals per game he would have scored around 55 goals?