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ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:02 pm
by ClaretTony

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:06 pm
by bobinho
Good luck to him, hope he makes it a success.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:13 pm
by mkmel
Have we made any extra money out of this loan deal?

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:14 pm
by Woodleyclaret
United have previous for buying crap maybe we can get a serious return on our investment

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:14 pm
by wilks_bfc
mkmel wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:13 pm
Have we made any extra money out of this loan deal?
£100k apparently

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:14 pm
by It Is What It Is
Hope he scores at least twice in every game for them....We could make quite a few million quid profit on him in June.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:18 pm
by Pearcey
It’s an incredible move for him. Will be interesting to see what happens in the summer.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:20 pm
by TheFamilyCat
One of the stranger episodes in the history of BFC.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:24 pm
by mdd2
Assume we have made £2.7 million
Repaid loan fee to the Turks which maybe due to currency changes is £100k less than what they paid in Euros to us in the summer

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:25 pm
by tiger76
Best thing for us is he does well at Utd, then we just might get our money back on him.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:27 pm
by Rick_Muller
I genuinely wish him well. It’s good for us if he does well at Utd, they’ll either want him permanently or it’ll generate interest from other clubs. The final option of course is he stays with us after doing well and becomes a cult legend

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:27 pm
by arise_sir_charge
So we are no better or worse off than if he’d stayed at Besiktas but he’s playing for one of the biggest clubs in world football in the most watched league. It sets it up well for the summer. Good move all round.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:31 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
Am I the only one who thinks that this completely bonkers by manure? Certainly be interesting.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:36 pm
by jedi_master
A move I don’t think anyone saw coming, but I hope he makes a real success of it there. If there’s no buy option included, he could be worth big money in the market to us this summer should he notch 8-10 goals at a club like United.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:40 pm
by mdd2
Of corse he could be a bench warmer for most games

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:42 pm
by martin_p
Fair play to the bloke, he’s certainly looked after his career and got the best out of it. Arrives in the prem making sure he can leave the team he’s signing for if they go down to keep him on his international manager’s radar. That move keeps him on the radar and earns him a place in the Dutch World Cup squad. Gets about 30 minutes at the World Cup but grabs the opportunity with both hands scoring two goals against the eventual world champions. That 30 minutes is probably what prompts the interest from United and he’s back in the Premier League at one of the ‘big six’.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:45 pm
by tiger76
mdd2 wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:40 pm
Of corse he could be a bench warmer for most games
He could however given Man Utd's packed schedule I suspect he'll get a fair amount of minutes.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:45 pm
by claretspice
Said on another thread... Good luck to him. If he does well, chances of us getting our money back on him increase (Besiktas' option wasn't worth much to us - the option was in their favour so was basically a maximum purchase price and didn't guarantee us anything). If he doesn't go particularly well then we'll have him back a bit more Premier League hardened.

In addition, we've done United a favour here and given our updated transfer strategy, its more in our interests than ever to forge good relationships with United and similar clubs.

For all those reasons this is very much in our interests. Pretty sure he'll suit United's 433 system better than the 442 he came into last season, just as he'd suit VKs system better. He's a classic Dutch forward and thrives with players running in behind him from wide and/or the 10 position. He wasn't going to replace the channel runs Wood made and we didn't have the mobility coming from behind him to play to his strengths.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:46 pm
by martin_p
tiger76 wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:45 pm
He could however given Man Utd's packed schedule I suspect he'll get a fair amount of minutes.
Yep, they’re still in four competitions.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:49 pm
by Guitargeorge
Burnley loaning Manchester United players!! The times they are a-changing.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:58 pm
by Spike
I really detest Man U always have done . I hope that we have had them over a barrel on this one no reason not to

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:01 pm
by RVclaret
claretspice wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:45 pm
Said on another thread... Good luck to him. If he does well, chances of us getting our money back on him increase (Besiktas' option wasn't worth much to us - the option was in their favour so was basically a maximum purchase price and didn't guarantee us anything). If he doesn't go particularly well then we'll have him back a bit more Premier League hardened.

In addition, we've done United a favour here and given our updated transfer strategy, its more in our interests than ever to forge good relationships with United and similar clubs.

For all those reasons this is very much in our interests. Pretty sure he'll suit United's 433 system better than the 442 he came into last season, just as he'd suit VKs system better. He's a classic Dutch forward and thrives with players running in behind him from wide and/or the 10 position. He wasn't going to replace the channel runs Wood made and we didn't have the mobility coming from behind him to play to his strengths.
Pretty much sums up all my thoughts.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:19 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Can we file this on the Wayne Thomas unbelievable folder?

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:21 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
I suppose it allows one of our fringe players a run out.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:32 pm
by ClaretTony
Guitargeorge wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:49 pm
Burnley loaning Manchester United players!! The times they are a-changing.
My thoughts exactly

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:44 pm
by MrTopTier
https://mobile.twitter.com/paddypower/ ... ediaviewer

Paddy Power done a nice video to go with the signing 😀😃

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:31 am
by Cooclaret
Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:31 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that this completely bonkers by manure? Certainly be interesting.
I think he will be a sensational signing. I think he will signal the end of Martial at Manchester United.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:38 am
by Dingo
I’m still keen to see him back in a Burnley shirt and hopefully that’ll be next season. More experience for him at that level can bode well for us if we go up. Assuming Utd won’t want to keep him permanently, I think he’ll get the chance to play for us next season in the Prem.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:52 am
by dermotdermot
Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:31 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that this completely bonkers by manure? Certainly be interesting.
No you’re not. I’m having field day with a Man U fan that I know. I’m off to the New Forest today to see if I can spot anymore donkeys that might be worth a punt.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:58 am
by taio
dermotdermot wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:52 am
No you’re not. I’m having field day with a Man U fan that I know. I’m off to the New Forest today to see if I can spot anymore donkeys that might be worth a punt.
No risk option for Man United. Works for all three parties.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:59 am
by fatboy47
Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:31 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that this completely bonkers by manure? Certainly be interesting.

Nope.
Poor man's Crouch.
And a bad egg.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:19 am
by jrgbfc
Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:31 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that this completely bonkers by manure? Certainly be interesting.
Not like he's going to be a regular. As a squad man I don't think he's a bad option.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:27 am
by 1882Clarets1882
I can see Netflix squeezing a 13 part series out of this.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:37 am
by Big Vinny K
We made an extra £100k - neither here no there but not insignificant.
But my guess is that the main reason we did the deal is with an eye to what could happen at the end of the season.
Weghorst stays at Beskitas they have an unhappy player on their hands - to the extent he could possibly have refused to play. Then no shop window for other clubs to buy him and little or no chance Beskitas buy him at the end of the season.
He moves to United - he is in shop window and if he does well or even ok there is chance someone buys him. If he does poorly then we are probably in no worse position than if he would have forced him to stay at Beskitas.
The most unlikely outcome was that Weghorst was happy to lose out on a dream move to United and went back to Beskitas to carry on playing well and scoring.

So on balance we made the decision that we thought would potentially give us the best outcome at the end of this season.
Of course the real winner out of all this is the player - but then it usually is.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:38 am
by Belgianclaret
Agree with Claretspice to an extent. Definitely a good striker.
He may also be more effective in VK’s system.
However, I don’t think he fits the VK philosophy because he thinks he’s too big for our club. Having scored twice against Argentina and now playing for United won’t really help.
But certainly I hope he convinces United to sign him so we can profit from that.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:47 am
by Stayingup
1882Clarets1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:27 am
I can see Netflix squeezing a 13 part series out of this.
Wout and the Spare and a Ghost writer. Yes it could earn millions.

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:06 am
by Hendrickxz
They do always say that the cream eventually rises to the top :(

Re: ARTICLE: Weghorst back in England with Manchester United

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:38 am
by SalisburyClaret
Excellent move for Man U - they’ll be a different side with a centre forward - and may turn out well for us in future