He’s a tit.

Forget about his footballing ability and the debates that surround that. His ‘big character’ that people bang on about just means he’s a complete pr**k.

Has he seen a copper in the crowd?

You can’t buy class!

Translated from Turkish and taken out of context. Perhaps the wrong bit of 'train...' was used in the translation and he actually meant that he wasn't satisfied with the railways?

Or is his hovercraft full of eels? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grA5XmBRC6g

Written by a no doubt aggrieved Besiktas fan page, unsourced, translated and out of context. Happy to hold my counsel on this one.

Another misunderstanding, I'm sure.

This was the quote I saw.

He’s just very outspoken isn’t he.

Replace outspoken with arrogant and I think you’re bang on

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:15 am

Replace outspoken with arrogant and I think you’re bang on

This, I’ve worked with a lots of Dutch and they suck at interpersonal skills except with each other.
Glad to be rid.

Are his comments much different than Maatsen saying that everything is more professional at Burnley than Coventry? Those comments didn’t seem to attract any criticism on here.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:33 am

Are his comments much different than Maatsen saying that everything is more professional at Burnley than Coventry? Those comments didn’t seem to attract any criticism on here.

Yes

He maybe ultra professional, but he has shades of Ronaldo about him (and I don't mean his ability), in which he makes everything about him at whatever cost.

The classic energy sapper

Take what we can in the summer and move on

From the outside looking in I can't see Kompany wanting him. He'd be a headache.

He's clearly a disagreeable sort.

Just playing devil’s advocate for a bit because it’s a lazy Sunday, but is such a driven personality always a bad thing? Maybe explains why the Dutch have punched above their weight in terms of footballing talent? I dunno. WW is clearly a bit haughty but ten Hag is clearly not one to suffer fools and happily took him on. Quote above appears to have changed too and could be interpreted in a few ways. Anyway I’m ambivalent about it - he’s probably leaving, we’ll hopefully get a good fee but if VK wants to keep him, happy with that too.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:34 am

Yes

In what way do you think Weghorst’s comments are worse than Maatsens?

It's quite humorous how he upsets people sometimes you need to rise above & take the adult stance.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:42 am

In what way do you think Weghorst’s comments are worse than Maatsens?

These are the Maatsen quotes

"This club has just come back from the Premier League, of course. Everything is a bit more professional. You notice that everyone is focused on a return to the highest level."

The Weghorst ones are available to view on this thread.

One player has no doubt insulted their previous club and the other has managed to say something informative without being insulting.

If you want to argue they're the same, fine. I don't and won't agree. I'm happy to leave it there.

ksrclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:47 am

These are the Maatsen quotes

"This club has just come back from the Premier League, of course. Everything is a bit more professional. You notice that everyone is focused on a return to the highest level."

The Weghorst ones are available to view on this thread.

One player has no doubt insulted their previous club and the other has managed to say something informative without being insulting.

If you want to argue they're the same, fine. I don't and won't agree. I'm happy to leave it there.

I’m not saying they’re the same, I just can’t really see why one would attract criticism and not the other. I don’t think Coventry fans took too kindly to Maatsen’s comments. I also don’t see what Weghorst has said that is insulting to his former club.

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Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:49 am

I’m not saying they’re the same, I just can’t really see why one would attract criticism and not the other. I don’t think Coventry fans took too kindly to Maatsen’s comments. I also don’t see what Weghorst has said that is insulting to his former club.

It’s not what they said it’s how they said it.One has class and comes across quite well the other comes across as a bell end.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:09 am

This was the quote I saw.

He’s just very outspoken isn’t he.

It reads to me like he was texting his agent about having a bad day in training, not that training is rubbish. It just so happens that while exchanging messages, the ManU offer came through.

No Ney Never wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:00 pm

It reads to me like he was texting his agent about having a bad day in training, not that training is rubbish. It just so happens that while exchanging messages, the ManU offer came through.

This is how I interpreted it.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:09 am

This was the quote I saw.

He’s just very outspoken isn’t he.

Don't see anything wrong with this quote to be honest.

Seems like a lot of people looking for any opportunity to bring his character into question. Not saying he's an angel, but this is scraping the barrel a bit. If anything he's telling it like it is rather than pandering the feelings of anyone. Clearly the Besiktas tweet has taken what he said out of context (if we believe the original quote).

Besiktas are hardly the epitome of honesty and sportsmanship...

All this of course doesn't mean you have to like him.

Laurie Lee speaks about his encounters with some students in Amsterdam who were fluent in five languages as learning English too quickly so they are likely to drop a few verbal bllks as a result.
Who wouldn’t tell the story of having an off day at training, freezing cold, kebab for tea - again- and then your agent rings you to say MAN UTD want to sign you.
I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Stories about his attitude at Wolfsburg
Stories about leaving Burnley
Stories about the move from Besiktas

There’s a bit of a theme. Why not just keep your gob shut or be respectful to where you’ve just been handsomely paid. Not that difficult I wouldn’t think, unless you are on an ego trip.

The fact he's played for 4 clubs in under a year should tell you something...

Imagine if he, as (technically still) one of our center forwards, got convicted for drink driving?

Taken in isolation these comments they might not garner any interest, coupled with other comments and story's from other clubs it does start to build a picture up of him. As Keith Lard would say, no smoke without fire.

As one lad said on twitter he’s the only big striker who shrinks when he jumps

Got to be something going on behind the scenes.

Good enough to play for Holland, one of the better sides in world football, at a World Cup.

Good enough to start for Man U

But we don't want him at Burnley.

Something is wrotten somewhere

You've written 'wrotten'. Wreally!!

Wrubbish wtyping

Croydon Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:44 pm

Got to be something going on behind the scenes.

Good enough to play for Holland, one of the better sides in world football, at a World Cup.

Good enough to start for Man U

But we don't want him at Burnley.

Something is wrotten somewhere

Harry Maguire is supposed to be good enough to play for Utd,says it all

Carwin261 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:17 pm

Harry Maguire is supposed to be good enough to play for Utd,says it all

Dreadful example, of all the players you could have used you chose Maguire?

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:15 am

Replace outspoken with arrogant and I think you’re bang on

Replace arrogant with driven.

He wants better training sessions. He sees ways his Burnley team mates can give him better service. I’d say he’s neither arrogant, nor outspoken, he just wants to be at the top of his game

Hibsclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:12 pm

Stories about his attitude at Wolfsburg
Stories about leaving Burnley
Stories about the move from Besiktas

There’s a bit of a theme. Why not just keep your gob shut or be respectful to where you’ve just been handsomely paid. Not that difficult I wouldn’t think, unless you are on an ego trip.

Yes, they are stories.

Stories repeated by fans as "proof " of the character of a bloke they've never met or worked with.
Pathetic, really.

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I bet you could make Maxwel Cornet look like the bad guy if you took some comments he made in French and twisted them the wrong way.

The Dutch are historically famous for their bluntness which often, like the Germans, is taken as arrogance. Bit like Burnley folk, say it as tha sees it!

And, let's not forget the English are accused worldwide of being "Arrogant" as, apparently, being the best shouldn't mean you have to believe it.