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Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:44 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
If/when they are relegated they start their next season in the Championship on -2 points.

That is them not catching us :D

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:45 pm
by Vegas Claret

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:48 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:45 pm
EFL statement
https://www.efl.com/news/2024/april/11/ ... ball-club/
£310,000 in costs, be some teams transfer budget that

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:49 pm
by Vegas Claret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:48 pm
£310,000 in costs, be some teams transfer budget that
it won't help them that's for sure !

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:14 pm
by Funkydrummer
Meanwhile, Citeh plod on regardless, and Everton remain, having been rewarded for offending twice.

You couldn't make it up.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:15 pm
by TheFamilyCat
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:44 pm
If/when they are relegated they start their next season in the Championship on -2 points.

That is them not catching us :D
They'll still win the league by October

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:26 pm
by Steve1956
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:15 pm
They'll still win the league by October
:lol: like they did two seasons ago and left us for dead :lol:

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:34 pm
by Nonayforever
Points deduction for any misdemeanor is a nonsense in my opinion. It should never happen. It brings whatever league the team is in a mockery.
If a person ( and that is what we actually talking about) does wrong in any way shape or form, why does the team have to suffer ?
If a director / accountant cheats , then jail them, ban them, fine them, put barriers in place to stop further cheating but don't deduct a couple of points, they are laughing at the the rule makers.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:42 pm
by equinox
What if they stay up?

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:45 pm
by RetroClaret
Can't wait for city's 40 point deduction reduced to 2 points in fives years time...

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:48 pm
by equinox
IF found guilty City will be relegated, their charges are fraudulent.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:50 pm
by hetheclaret
Funkydrummer wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:14 pm
Meanwhile, Citeh plod on regardless, and Everton remain, having been rewarded for offending twice.

You couldn't make it up.
There's no comparison between City's situation and Everton/Forest/Leicester. Apples and oranges.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:52 pm
by hetheclaret
hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:50 pm
There's no comparison between City's situation and Everton/Forest/Leicester. Apples and oranges.
To elaborate, the question with City is whether they have broken the rules or not - that itself is a massive legal case that will take months/years to decide. And that's before you even get to any punishment. The others have broken the rules - nobody is debating that - the debate is extent of punishment due to "mitigating circumstances".

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:53 pm
by Vegas Claret
hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:50 pm
There's no comparison between City's situation and Everton/Forest/Leicester. Apples and oranges.
bonkers how many haven't cottoned on to the differences and I include loads of the media in that too, they've done such a poor job in conveying it

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:55 pm
by Vegas Claret
hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:52 pm
To elaborate, the question with City is whether they have broken the rules or not - that itself is a massive legal case that will take months/years to decide. And that's before you even get to any punishment. The others have broken the rules - nobody is debating that - the debate is extent of punishment due to "mitigating circumstances".
City is about fraud on a huge scale involving multiple companies - if found guilty it involves potential custodial sentences, the burden of proof required to convict is extremely high - hence the reason it is going to take a very long time, like you said, apples and oranges.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
I don't need any conclusive evidence to know that a club like Man City with stupidly rich sand dwellers are bent.

More bent than a game of Snakes and Ladders between Vladimir Putin and Julian Clary.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:25 am
by hetheclaret
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 pm
I don't need any conclusive evidence to know that a club like Man City with stupidly rich sand dwellers are bent.

More bent than a game of Snakes and Ladders between Vladimir Putin and Julian Clary.
Neither do I, but a judge does.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:04 am
by claretonthecoast1882
TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:15 pm
They'll still win the league by October
Can't remember who said it but remember that comment, we got lucky that they don't hand out trophies in October

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:38 am
by TheFamilyCat
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:04 am
Can't remember who said it but remember that comment, we got lucky that they don't hand out trophies in October
I think there was more than one tbh.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:43 am
by Swizzlestick
One was a resident of the North East.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:43 am
by morninbob
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2024 8:04 am
Can't remember who said it but remember that comment, we got lucky that they don't hand out trophies in October
Newcastleclaret rings a bell

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:04 pm
by Dassey
For anyone annoyed that city and Chelsea haven’t yet been punished,their cases are extremely complicated and some barristers are gonna get even richer on the back of these hearings.
Everton, forest,Leicester are fairly straightforward if that’s possible as they are realising that there are so many loopholes and arguments that weren’t thought of by the prem idiots that brought in ffp,now psr,soon to change to player squad cost ratio.
The whole thing is a mess but to get an insight look up stephan borson or Kieran McGuire on YouTube,they are the experts and make it quite interesting for layman’s to understand.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:35 pm
by Goliath
Benson's first half away at Sheff Utd last season was the best individual display I saw all season and there was a lot to choose from. He ripped them to pieces single handedly.
I wonder if that will come into VK's thinking at any point.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:39 pm
by CaptainKirk
Goliath wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:35 pm
Benson's first half away at Sheff Utd last season was the best individual display I saw all season and there was a lot to choose from. He ripped them to pieces single handedly.
I wonder if that will come into VK's thinking at any point.
What thinking is that?
I have seen no evidence of thinking all season.

Re: Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:51 pm
by dougcollins
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:32 pm
I don't need any conclusive evidence to know that a club like Man City with stupidly rich sand dwellers are bent.

More bent than a game of Snakes and Ladders between Vladimir Putin and Julian Clary.
You certainly covered a few bases there.