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????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:43 pm
by burnley007
Fill in the gap for what sounds most natural to you
Will always be Jimmy Mullen's Claret and Blue Army for me.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:45 pm
by mybloodisclaret
Scotty Parker's Claret Blue Army!!!
I did love the Jimmy Mullen one though.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:46 pm
by MK-Claret
Harry Potts
Claret and Blue
Army
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:49 pm
by fidelcastro
Whoever the manager is.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:56 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Stan ternent’s claret and blue army
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:58 pm
by 4:20
4 syllables for the name and you've generally cracked it with that chant. Mullen's is still king of the hill, as his name is what it says on the tin. Scott has to be lengthened to 'Scotty' and so points deducted for that, although it does sound good in the chant.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:05 pm
by bfcjg
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 pm
by Greenmile
The only names that scan perfectly (three syllables; stress on the first and third) are Alan Brown*, Harry Potts, and then a remarkable run of four consecutive managers in Owen Coyle, Brian Laws, Stuart Gray*, and Eddie Howe.
*before my time - never heard of him until today, tbh
**caretaker for four games only
There is an argument that the correct rhythm should be four syllables; stress on the first and third, which would give us a few more options - Harry Bradshaw, Ernest Mangnall, Albert Pickles, Billy Dougall, Brian Miller, Martin Buchan, Jimmy Mullen, Terry Pashley* and possibly even Owen Coyle again if you pronounce it “Coy-ull”, but I prefer a half beat (I stand to be corrected by any musicians here) gap before “..claret and blue army”, personally.
* caretaker for three games only
(yes, I am a bit bored today)
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:10 pm
by burnley007
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:18 pm
by Bosscat
Wembley Burnley v Stockport 1994 rocked to the 35,000 + Clarets chanting
"Jimmy Mullens .... Claret and Blue army"
Today it has to be
"Scotty Parkers .... Claret and Blue Army"
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:18 pm
by ClaretTony
Greenmile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 pm
The only names that scan perfectly (three syllables; stress on the first and third) are Alan Brown*, Harry Potts, and then a remarkable run of four consecutive managers in Owen Coyle, Brian Laws, Stuart Gray*, and Eddie Howe.
*before my time - never heard of him until today, tbh
**caretaker for four games only
There is an argument that the correct rhythm should be
four syllables; stress on the first and third, which would give us a few more options - Harry Bradshaw, Ernest Mangnall, Albert Pickles, Billy Dougall, Brian Miller, Martin Buchan, Jimmy Mullen, Terry Pashley* and possibly even Owen Coyle again if you pronounce it “Coy-ull”, but I prefer a half beat (I stand to be corrected by any musicians here) gap before “..claret and blue army”, personally.
* caretaker for three games only
(yes, I am a bit bored today)
For Greenmile and anyone else who hasn’t heard of him.
Alan Brown was captain of our promotion and FA Cup Final team in 1947 and one of the most influential of managers we’ve ever had. He was behind the setting up of Gawthorpe in the mid-50s as we set up his dream of bringing young players through.
He was a mentor for Brian Clough who in turn was a mentor for Sean Dyche who was behind the new training ground.
Hugely important figure in the history of Burnley Football Club.
https://www.uptheclarets.com/alan-brown ... -july-1957
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:22 pm
by Greenmile
Thanks CT
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:26 pm
by Gp8419
Steeeeveeee!
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:27 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Absolutely no need for a y on Scott. Just drag it out, Scccottt Parkers Claret and Blue Army.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:31 pm
by burnley007
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:27 pm
Absolutely no need for a y on Scott. Just drag it out, Scccottt Parkers Claret and Blue Army.
nah, I don't like that. Far too tricky for us basic folk!
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:55 pm
by Row x
fidelcastro wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:49 pm
Whoever the manager is.
For various reasons, the only one that sticks in the memory is Jimmy mullen, too long ago for some though
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:07 pm
by Goody1975
Frankie Casper's Claret & Blue Army
Don Mackay's Blue & White Bastards
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:12 pm
by beddie
Eddie Howe’s claret & blue army.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:16 pm
by AfloatinClaret
burnley007 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:10 pm
That's brilliant
I joined in with that chant for a while whilst surrounded by Derby fans, a few of them even joined in with me. I never felt in any danger by doing so... Mind you, the three lads who I'd gone to the game with ran a Groundworks and Demolition business in the city and were locally well known and BIG.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:17 pm
by pushpinpussy
Owen Coyle's Claret and Blue Army
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:23 pm
by burnley007
pushpinpussy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:17 pm
Owen Coyle's Claret and Blue Army
good luck with that...
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:37 pm
by pushpinpussy
burnley007 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:23 pm
good luck with that...
The play off final win alone should have us singing his name.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:43 pm
by Clovius Boofus
Bosscat wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:18 pm
Wembley Burnley v Stockport 1994 rocked to the 35,000 + Clarets chanting
Carried on throughout the summer of 1994. I bet there's hardly a popular Mediterranean resort that didn't hear it.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:48 pm
by burnley007
Clovius Boofus wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:43 pm
Carried on throughout the summer of 1994. I bet there's hardly a popular Mediterranean resort that didn't hear it.
I loved that game.
But not as much as York away.
I have absolutely no memory of the Orient game, not a clue why. Sherpa Van the following year was ridiculous, 84,000 people I think. 3rd division team vs 4th division team. madness.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:38 pm
by bfcjg
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:48 pm
by Holtyclaret
burnley007 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:48 pm
I loved that game.
But not as much as York away.
I have absolutely no memory of the Orient game, not a clue why. Sherpa Van the following year was ridiculous, 84,000 people I think. 3rd division team vs 4th division team. madness.
80,841 was the attendance. Amazing day
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:54 pm
by jos
I think our home shirt is more purple than claret!
UTP’s
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:00 pm
by brexit
Württemberg the claret and blue army
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 4:58 pm
by Row x
Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:48 pm
80,841 was the attendance. Amazing day
I've been talking to a wolves fan recently, and that game was the first thing he mentioned once he found out who I supported
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:56 pm
by Pickles
Bumble Bee's Claret and Blue army.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:02 pm
by wilks_bfc
Greenmile wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:08 pm
The only names that scan perfectly (three syllables; stress on the first and third) are Alan Brown*, Harry Potts, and then a remarkable run of four consecutive managers in Owen Coyle, Brian Laws, Stuart Gray*, and Eddie Howe.
*before my time - never heard of him until today, tbh
**caretaker for four games only
There could be the argument there was a run of 8 managers with 3 syllables
Chris Wad-dle
Stan Tern-ent
Steve Cotte-rill (in a Burnley accent the e is dropped)
Steve Da-vis
O-wen Coyle
Bri-an Laws
Stu-art Gray
Edd-ie Howe
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:08 pm
by dougcollins
The Mullen chant was legendary, and that was the one and only for me.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:09 pm
by dougcollins
jos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 3:54 pm
I think our home shirt is more purple than claret!
UTP’s
It is now.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:12 pm
by HeatonMoorClaret
Joe Brown's Claret and Blue Army...76/77
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:26 pm
by Greenmile
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:02 pm
There could be the argument there was a run of 8 managers with 3 syllables
Chris Wad-dle
Stan Tern-ent
Steve Cotte-rill (in a Burnley accent the e is dropped)
Steve Da-vis
O-wen Coyle
Bri-an Laws
Stu-art Gray
Edd-ie Howe
Whilst you are, of course, right that there was a run of 8 managers with 3 syllables, there’s more than that to fitting a name perfectly to a chant.
Waddle, Ternent, Davis and Cotterill all have the stress on the first syllable of their surnames (or second syllable of their full names) and, as such, don’t scan quite as well. To be more precise, the names don’t sound quite right when put to the chant Chris waDULL*, Stan terNENT, Steve dayVIS, Steve cot-RILL aren’t how you pronounce their names when not singing. BRI-un LAWS STEW-ert GRAY, O-wen COYLE and Ed-dee HOWE all work slightly better.
*Sid Waddell would work though, but I think the closest he came to football management was writing Jossy’s Giants (there’s one for the teenagers
)
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:29 pm
by Greenmile
Having said all that, the correct answer to the OP is still, as quite a few people have said, the four-syllabled Jimmy Mullen.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:50 pm
by Jellybean
Loved the slowed down chant version where someone loud shouted JIMMY and the crowd responded. Great times.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:52 pm
by dougcollins
Jellybean wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:50 pm
Loved the slowed down chant version where someone loud shouted JIMMY and the crowd responded. Great times.
Not a hope of anything like that in these contemporary times.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:06 pm
by IanMcL
burnley007 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 12:43 pm
Fill in the gap for what sounds most natural to you
Will always be
Jimmy Mullen's Claret and Blue Army for me.
The best of times as a young fan.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:12 pm
by alboclaret
Never been a better one that Jimmy mullens
.
Shaun Dyche just didn't work for me.
Steve Cotterells ptob next best.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:30 pm
by boatshed bill
TBH, Vincent Komp'ny's Claret'n'Blue Army sounds OK too.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:49 pm
by Goliath
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:30 pm
TBH, Vincent Komp'ny's Claret'n'Blue Army sounds OK too.
I always found it weird that it never got an airing.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:30 am
by fidelcastro
Goliath wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 10:49 pm
I always found it weird that it never got an airing.
You shouldn't have done last season.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:37 am
by MG70
The first time I remember hearing it was when Brian Miller was manager.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:39 am
by Quicknick
John Howarth's claret and blue army.
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:46 am
by IanMcL
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 1:18 pm
For Greenmile and anyone else who hasn’t heard of him.
Alan Brown was captain of our promotion and FA Cup Final team in 1947 and one of the most influential of managers we’ve ever had. He was behind the setting up of Gawthorpe in the mid-50s as we set up his dream of bringing young players through.
He was a mentor for Brian Clough who in turn was a mentor for Sean Dyche who was behind the new training ground.
Hugely important figure in the history of Burnley Football Club.
https://www.uptheclarets.com/alan-brown ... -july-1957
"Alan Brown's Gawthorpe Training Ground"
Re: ????....Claret and Blue Army
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 11:44 pm
by ClaretinJapan
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:02 pm
There could be the argument there was a run of 8 managers with 3 syllables
Chris Wad-dle
Stan Tern-ent
Steve Cotte-rill (in a Burnley accent the e is dropped)
Steve Da-vis
O-wen Coyle
Bri-an Laws
Stu-art Gray
Edd-ie Howe
I'd rather sing Sid Waddell's claret and blue army than Chris Waddles.
