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BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:52 pm
by jdrobbo
… can we name their FIRST permanent signing, in each case?

Mullen
Heath
Waddle
Ternent
Cotterill
Coyle
Laws
Howe
Dyche
Kompany
Parker

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:54 pm
by burnmark
Mullen - Randall?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:56 pm
by colne-claret
Cotterill - Mcgreal?
Howe - Austin?
Parker - Pires? I don’t actually remember there’s been that many.
VK - twine?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:56 pm
by colne-claret
Laws - Danny Fox?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:07 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Waddle - Michael Williams
Heath - Nigel Gleghorn

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:12 pm
by HahaYeah
Dyche's was Tom Heaton I think, and it didn't go down to well on here.

Parkers might be a grey area, I think signings were made before he was unveiled.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:20 pm
by AGENT_CLARET
HahaYeah wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:12 pm
Dyche's was Tom Heaton I think, and it didn't go down to well on here.

Parkers might be a grey area, I think signings were made before he was unveiled.
Dyche's first signing was Dane Richards

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:22 pm
by HahaYeah
AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:20 pm
Dyche's first signing was Dane Richards
Ah right, forgot about him! :lol:

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:24 pm
by jdrobbo
AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:20 pm
Dyche's first signing was Dane Richards
Was not a permanent

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:26 pm
by Im_not_Robbie_Blake
I think Eddie Howe had organised the Richards signing before Dyche arrived (?)

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:28 pm
by burnmark
Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:26 pm
I think Eddie Howe had organised the Richards signing before Dyche arrived (?)
Correct

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:40 pm
by Goliath
HahaYeah wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:12 pm
Dyche's was Tom Heaton I think, and it didn't go down to well on here.

Parkers might be a grey area, I think signings were made before he was unveiled.
Dyche used to always use that one to beat the fans with about Heaton but I don't think it was ever true. Most Burnley fans knew Heaton well because he used to always play really well against us. I don't think that many were unhappy with the signing, especially when it was the unpopular Grant he was replacing

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:48 pm
by colne-claret
jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Was not a permanent
He was. We loaned him out.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:50 pm
by jdrobbo
colne-claret wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:48 pm
He was. We loaned him out.
Good grief: if that’s the case; you learn something every day. Thank you.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:01 pm
by ClaretTony
Mullen - Aidy Randall
Heath - Nigel Gleghorn
Waddle - Chris Woods/Michael Williams
Ternent - Steve Morgan
Cotterill - John McGreal
Coyle - Martin Paterson
Laws - Leon Cort
Howe - Charlie Austin
Dyche - Tom Heaton
Kompany - Scott Twine
Parker - JBG

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:03 pm
by jdrobbo
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:01 pm
Mullen - Aidy Randall
Heath - Nigel Gleghorn
Waddle - Chris Woods/Michael Williams
Ternent - Steve Morgan
Cotterill - John McGreal
Coyle - Martin Paterson
Laws - Leon Cort
Howe - Charlie Austin
Dyche - Tom Heaton
Kompany - Scott Twine
Parker - JBG

Some very solid signings on there

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:05 pm
by helmclaret
Steve Morgan :o

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:05 pm
by colne-claret
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:01 pm
Mullen - Aidy Randall
Heath - Nigel Gleghorn
Waddle - Chris Woods/Michael Williams
Ternent - Steve Morgan
Cotterill - John McGreal
Coyle - Martin Paterson
Laws - Leon Cort
Howe - Charlie Austin
Dyche - Tom Heaton
Kompany - Scott Twine
Parker - JBG
I couldn’t remember if Laws first signing was Cort or Fox. Both hardly what we needed at the time but I suppose budgets were small at that point.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:13 pm
by ClaretTony
colne-claret wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:05 pm
I couldn’t remember if Laws first signing was Cort or Fox. Both hardly what we needed at the time but I suppose budgets were small at that point.
Both Flood signings to be fair rather than Laws.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:25 pm
by Dark Cloud
jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:03 pm
Some very solid signings on there
Agreed. Some very solid signings on there....... and Steve Morgan!!!! 😂

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:57 pm
by wilks_bfc
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:01 pm
Mullen - Aidy Randall
Heath - Nigel Gleghorn
Waddle - Chris Woods/Michael Williams
Ternent - Steve Morgan
Cotterill - John McGreal
Coyle - Martin Paterson
Laws - Leon Cort
Howe - Charlie Austin
Dyche - Tom Heaton
Kompany - Scott Twine
Parker - JBG
You could kinda get a starting 11 out of those

——————-——-———-Heaton——————-—
—————-—Cort —— McGreal —— Morgan
Twine—— Williams ——Gleghorn ——Randall ——JBG
———-————Paterson —— Austin—————-

Not sure how successful it’ll be though tbh :lol:

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:12 pm
by ClaretTony
wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:57 pm
You could kinda get a starting 11 out of those

——————-——-———-Heaton——————-—
—————-—Cort —— McGreal —— Morgan
Twine—— Williams ——Gleghorn ——Randall ——JBG
———-————Paterson —— Austin—————-

Not sure how successful it’ll be though tbh :lol:
I reckon Johnny Mac would have his work cut out at the back

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:13 pm
by helmclaret
Yep would be pretty stressful that!

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:17 pm
by whiffa
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:01 pm

Laws - Leon Cort
For me, our weakest manager signing our weakest player.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:26 pm
by ClaretTony
whiffa wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:17 pm
For me, our weakest manager signing our weakest player.
As said above, he didn't really sign him.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:28 pm
by daveisaclaret
How many others is it true for, that it wasn't really the manager's signing? I assume it applies to JBG and Twine

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:42 pm
by claretburns
daveisaclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:28 pm
How many others is it true for, that it wasn't really the manager's signing? I assume it applies to JBG and Twine
Jelle Vossen and Chris Long spring to mind.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:53 pm
by NL Claret
Goliath wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:40 pm
Dyche used to always use that one to beat the fans with about Heaton but I don't think it was ever true. Most Burnley fans knew Heaton well because he used to always play really well against us. I don't think that many were unhappy with the signing, especially when it was the unpopular Grant he was replacing
Heaton conceded 7 goals in 2 games for Bristol City playing against the Clarets, not sure about playing well, maybe just keeping the score down.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:15 am
by bobinho
NL Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:53 pm
Heaton conceded 7 goals in 2 games for Bristol City playing against the Clarets, not sure about playing well, maybe just keeping the score down.
Think I remember him shipping four against us just before we signed him…. Hence one or two on here getting their knicks wet. Could easily have been ten but for him.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:57 am
by Steve-Harpers-perm
I can still picture Steve Morgan looking completely lost (not the only one that night) in that 6.0 home defeat by City. He was dreadful for us.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:17 am
by Shappie
helmclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:05 pm
Steve Morgan :o


Exactly the same reaction as me!!

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:17 am
by Shappie
Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:57 am
I can still picture Steve Morgan looking completely lost (not the only one that night) in that 6.0 home defeat by City. He was dreadful for us.


Never mind Man City. He looked lost in the pre season friendly at Elmore

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:28 am
by LincsWoldsClaret
Was Steve Morgan the one Stan called ‘the dark destroyer’?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:34 am
by wilks_bfc
LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:28 am
Was Steve Morgan the one Stan called ‘the dark destroyer’?
That’s because whenever he went forward and had an attempt on goal, the shot was that high, wide & powerful, it would destroy one of the wooden chairs in the CFS

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:38 am
by ClaretTony
Goliath wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:40 pm
Dyche used to always use that one to beat the fans with about Heaton but I don't think it was ever true. Most Burnley fans knew Heaton well because he used to always play really well against us. I don't think that many were unhappy with the signing, especially when it was the unpopular Grant he was replacing
The issue was his first four signings in the summer of 2013 were all goalkeepers. He brought in Heaton and Cisak to replace Grant and Jensen but there were also Nizic and Liversedge but those deals had already been sorted a year earlier when Howe was here and he had no option on them.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:00 am
by willsclarets
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:12 pm
I reckon Johnny Mac would have his work cut out at the back
That midfield as well :o
Not what you'd call a strong spine

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:46 am
by wilks_bfc
willsclarets wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:00 am
That midfield as well :o
Not what you'd call a strong spine
Hey I never said it’ll be competitive :lol:

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:09 pm
by IanMcL
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:12 pm
I reckon Johnny Mac would have his work cut out at the back
That was my first thought and then next was your own post!

He would cope on his own, fortunately!

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:22 pm
by ecc
Michael Williams looked like he'd never played football before.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:34 pm
by Shappie
ecc wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 12:22 pm
Michael Williams looked like he'd never played football before.


He did, but mark ford had played for England u21 and he was just as shite

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:56 pm
by JohnDearyMe
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 9:01 pm
Mullen - Aidy Randall
Heath - Nigel Gleghorn
Waddle - Chris Woods/Michael Williams
Ternent - Steve Morgan
Cotterill - John McGreal
Coyle - Martin Paterson
Laws - Leon Cort
Howe - Charlie Austin
Dyche - Tom Heaton
Kompany - Scott Twine
Parker - JBG
I always thought that Woods was brought in as part of Waddle's back room staff and only played because we were doing so poorly (can't remember who else we had in goals that season) but I am perhaps mixing him up with Gordon Cowans?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:23 pm
by fungus_the_bogeyman
I think Woods was supposed to be more of a coach/backup but came in after we sold Beresford to Boro. I thought he did pretty well from what I remember.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 7:21 pm
by ClaretTony
AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 8:20 pm
Dyche's first signing was Dane Richards
Signed in the summer of 2012 on a pre-contract

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:15 pm
by claretburns
bobinho wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:15 am
Think I remember him shipping four against us just before we signed him…. Hence one or two on here getting their knicks wet. Could easily have been ten but for him.
Pretty sure that was the season Bristol City went down and conceded over 100 goals which made the prospect of signing Heaton not that appetising to some. Add in the fact the anger from some fans for signing a released midfielder from Huddersfield.

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:28 pm
by wilks_bfc
Shappie wrote:
Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:34 pm
He did, but mark ford had played for England u21 and he was just as shite
Didn’t he break his ankle/leg in one of his first games for us?
Don’t think he ever returned to that fitness/potential after that

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 6:23 am
by bobinho
claretburns wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:15 pm
Pretty sure that was the season Bristol City went down and conceded over 100 goals which made the prospect of signing Heaton not that appetising to some. Add in the fact the anger from some fans for signing a released midfielder from Huddersfield.
Both turned out pretty well didn’t they?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:47 am
by Shappie
wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:28 pm
Didn’t he break his ankle/leg in one of his first games for us?
Don’t think he ever returned to that fitness/potential after that



Don’t remember that to be honest

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:01 am
by wilks_bfc
Shappie wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:47 am
Don’t remember that to be honest
I was half right. It was in the second season he broke his ankle
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Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 9:40 am
by Culmclaret
Going back a bit further

Miller first spell….was it Billy Hamilton?

Casper first spell. Terry Donovan?

Re: BFC managers - first signings

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:46 pm
by ClaretTony
wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:28 pm
Didn’t he break his ankle/leg in one of his first games for us?
Don’t think he ever returned to that fitness/potential after that
Mark Ford did - it was the opening day of the 1998/99 season, first game under Stan.