Forgive me if it's already been mentioned but I'm sure I once read that since 1888 we've only ever had four 0-0 shorelines in the league against PNE.I can't recall any myself(been watching since mid 80s).I guess unfortunately it's 5 now.

We were lucky to get Nil today so poor were we

As were they!

Just got back home, that was ferkin awful to watch. We were out muscled, out thought, out run by a team of experienced men against a team of fancy dancing kids. I feel sorry for our very young team but today that was frustating torture to watch. One man up front at home against a poor team we had 5 light weight midfielders who quite honestly weren't up for a fight. Parker needs a complete rethink of his tactics quickly. That simply wasn't good enough.

Vino blanco wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:12 pm

Just got back home, that was ferkin awful to watch. We were out muscled, out thought, out run by a team of experienced men against a team of fancy dancing kids. I feel sorry for our very young team but today that was frustating torture to watch. One man up front at home against a poor team we had 5 light weight midfielders who quite honestly weren't up for a fight. Parker needs a complete rethink of his tactics quickly. That simply wasn't good enough.

What would you suggest he should do with the players that he has available?

When was our last 0-0 at home? Feels like a while since we've had one.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:20 pm

When was our last 0-0 at home? Feels like a while since we've had one.

Not sure, but with the we're set up there might be a few more to come.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:19 pm

What would you suggest he should do with the players that he has available?

Change it from 1 up front against teams like Plymouth and preston at home, and start thinking about winning games rather than not losing. So boring to watch and can't be enjoyable for the players to play in.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:20 pm

When was our last 0-0 at home? Feels like a while since we've had one.

Sunderland I would think towards the end of Kompany’s first season.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:19 pm

What would you suggest he should do with the players that he has available?

He could quite easily have made at least 2 changes at HT. His subs were way too late.
Laurent always looks more positive and powerful in midfield, and Roberts, Sarmiento and Flemming should have been on earlier - assuming they are fit enough.
If Egan isn't fit enough then he shouldn't be on the bench. He is a way better centre back then CJ E-R, and he's good for a goal from set pieces - though not if Brownhill is allowed to take them. [That's one of the first changes I would make. His delivery from set-pieces is not good enough.]

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:19 pm

What would you suggest he should do with the players that he has available?

His job.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:19 pm

What would you suggest he should do with the players that he has available?

Not play 1 up front against shite like Plymouth and Preston.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:19 pm

What would you suggest he should do with the players that he has available?

You seem happy with the way we are playing so I'm surprised you would ask someone about another way we could play.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:59 pm

You seem happy with the way we are playing so I'm surprised you would ask someone about another way we could play.

Where have I said that I'm happy with the way we are playing?

Murger wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:58 pm

Not play 1 up front against shite like Plymouth and Preston.

So who would you suggest that he also plays up front?

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:10 pm

Where have I said that I'm happy with the way we are playing?

Wanted to clarify you weren't happy rather than playing silly games. Is it not clear to you how we could play better?

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:14 pm

Wanted to clarify you weren't happy rather than playing silly games. Is it not clear to you how we could play better?

Silly games? Of course I think we should and would love for us to play better but patience is required. We aren't playing as well as we all would like but 2 points per game (especially when we aren't playing well) will get us promotion.

Issues are:
koleosho (body language and positioning/trying to beat 7 players)

Eagan riley (slow, passing and ability to get a attack going)

Hannibal (hanging towards the wing when he should be engaging in the midfield)

Foster (not a hold up player -not his fault and service)

Positives - roberts in for humpheries and Fleming an option for 4-4-2 if we need to change system plus Worral and beyer still to come back, think Sarmiento and tresor could be very good subs though Anthony is very hit or miss ageyi apparently good player?

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:19 pm

Silly games? Of course I think we should and would love for us to play better but patience is required. We aren't playing as well as we all would like but 2 points per game (especially when we aren't playing well) will get us promotion.

We will have to play a lot better than this for me to talk about promotion like you. While I'm not saying you are, In my opinion there's been too much comparison with what Kompany did in his Championship season.

For the record I think Parker is a good manager but the football is awful at the moment I'm hopeful it will get better when Fleming comes in for Hannibal and the ball starts to move forward quicker. Koleosho is clearly well rated but recently he has spent games running across the pitch either beating players or running into them. This has to change as has Anthony beating his own shadow all the time. Blackburn showed he is better than that so more encouragement from the management team is needed.
You see I thought of all that myself without even trying

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:32 pm

We will have to play a lot better than this for me to talk about promotion like you. While I'm not saying you are, In my opinion there's been too much comparison with what Kompany did in his Championship season.

For the record I think Parker is a good manager but the football is awful at the moment I'm hopeful it will get better when Fleming comes in for Hannibal and the ball starts to move forward quicker. Koleosho is clearly well rated but recently he has spent games running across the pitch either beating players or running into them. This has to change as has Anthony beating his own shadow all the time. Blackburn showed he is better than that so more encouragement from the management team is needed.
You see I thought of all that myself without even trying

Good for you!

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:11 pm

So who would you suggest that he also plays up front?

Played Fleming up front at leeds, so he should be up there with foster. No need for 3 holding midfielders, certainly at home to Plymouth and preston.

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:47 pm

Good for you!

Let me know if you need anything else

Barlickclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 7:57 pm

Played Fleming up front at leeds, so he should be up there with foster. No need for 3 holding midfielders, certainly at home to Plymouth and preston.

I don’t think Brownhill or Hannibal are holding midfielders, although the entire front 5 ahead of Cullen have struggled to create for the last 3 games. Very static and rigid.

Row Z wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:11 pm

I don’t think Brownhill or Hannibal are holding midfielders, although the entire front 5 ahead of Cullen have struggled to create for the last 3 games. Very static and rigid.

If they are not holding midfielders then they should be told to get round foster, foster is getting abuse and he's up there on his own, and he's not that type of forward.

Elizabeth wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:09 pm

Let me know if you need anything else

No, I'm fine, thanks.

Barlickclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:18 pm

If they are not holding midfielders then they should be told to get round foster, foster is getting abuse and he's up there on his own, and he's not that type of forward.

Nobody is that type of forward. On the rare occasions the ball comes into the box, Foster is on his own with Preston's three centre halves around him. The first step towards scoring more goals, would be to try and score.

I’ve just been watching the extended Championship highlights on Sky and in most other matches it was 3 at the back and the wide men had acres of space when they received the ball. I feel we’ve been rumbled, they were 5 at the back and all 3 of our wingers were closed down immediately they got the ball. Word will spread so we better get used to it and devise a plan B.

Barlickclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:18 pm

If they are not holding midfielders then they should be told to get round foster, foster is getting abuse and he's up there on his own, and he's not that type of forward.

I agree - runners should be going beyond him but Hannibal seems to want it to feet, our wingers stay wide, that leaves Brownhill only. We did it at Luton but Odobert is a far better and cleverer player than Luca.

Foster looks lost, but he’s largely played up front on his own since he signed for us. It’s the system and the long balls up to him against big CBs which isn’t doing him any favours. It needs drilling into his chest or feet, not looping up as a 50/50. Trafford needs to do better with this.

Row Z wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 06, 2024 9:51 pm

I agree - runners should be going beyond him but Hannibal seems to want it to feet, our wingers stay wide, that leaves Brownhill only. We did it at Luton but Odobert is a far better and cleverer player than Luca.

Foster looks lost, but he’s largely played up front on his own since he signed for us. It’s the system and the long balls up to him against big CBs which isn’t doing him any favours. It needs drilling into his chest or feet, not looping up as a 50/50. Trafford needs to do better with this.

Nice dig at Trafford at the end of your post there some people really can't help themselves can they

Theres a few clubs in the PL today wishing they could get a 0-0 anytime soon. Wolves, Southampton, Ipswich to mention a few.

Its not ideal but at least our defence seems well organised and resolute, just now need to work at raising our tempo, create more chances, start the hunt for a proper No 9, and getting a few more of the injured fit to be involved in or around the squad.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:20 pm

When was our last 0-0 at home? Feels like a while since we've had one.

Sunderland in the match before we clinched promotion

Vincent'sCap wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:39 am

Nice dig at Trafford at the end of your post there some people really can't help themselves can they

Who else can you direct that comment at? If Trafford is kicking it then the comment is aimed at him, just like any other comment on any other player in the side.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2024 3:02 pm

Sunderland in the match before we clinched promotion

I wasn't on that game for some reason which is probably why it slipped my mind.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 07, 2024 1:51 pm

Theres a few clubs in the PL today wishing they could get a 0-0 anytime soon. Wolves, Southampton, Ipswich to mention a few.

Its not ideal but at least our defence seems well organised and resolute, just now need to work at raising our tempo, create more chances, start the hunt for a proper No 9, and getting a few more of the injured fit to be involved in or around the squad.

It has surely not gone unnoticed that the value/stature of the injured/missing players grows significantly each match day that passes and they are not involved. Some even longing for the return of players labelled as little more than a liability whilst the transfer window was still open and wanting them shipped out as soon as any reasonable offer came in.