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Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:46 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
An average London salary is 68% higher than the Burnley equivalent, says a Think Tank (According to The Guardian)

But, I'd still rather live in Burnley than The Smoke

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:48 pm
by GetIntoEm
Guess it depends what job you work in, NHS uplift for London isn't that great.

If you're in the right jobs in our area you can earn decent money.

You'd have to pay me double to live in london

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:52 pm
by Bow
I’d absolutely love to live in London, if I had a serious amount of money to live somewhere central and nice.

But you’d need a ridiculous salary to do that, far beyond any uplift.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:54 pm
by Papabendi
RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:46 pm
An average London salary is 68% higher than the Burnley equivalent, says a Think Tank (According to The Guardian)

But, I'd still rather live in Burnley than The Smoke
One of the best cities in the world vs...Burnley. Hmm.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:00 pm
by randomclaret2
Next weeks shock revelation from the Think Tank as they reveal that Bears do indeed **** in the Woods

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:05 pm
by Woodleyclaret
I was offered £450/ day to supply teach Cookery in Selhurst.As this was a 2 hr each way around the M25 I decided against it.
Usual rate in Blackpool near were we live is £150 £175/day

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:25 pm
by COBBLE
I don't think Burnley has the full range and depth of jobs to be used as a measure.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:27 pm
by Bosscat
Londons a shi!thole ... OK to visit but wouldn't want to live there

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:29 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
Papabendi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:54 pm
One of the best cities in the world vs...Burnley. Hmm.
One of the best cities in the World? We all have our opinions ;)

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 pm
by dvalley69
RalphCoatesComb wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:46 pm
An average London salary is 68% higher than the Burnley equivalent, says a Think Tank (According to The Guardian)

But, I'd still rather live in Burnley than The Smoke
I'm guessing the cost of living there is much higher than Burnley, but is it 68% higher? That would be a better marker. How far does that salary increase take you? Or are you actually worse off living in London despite a higher salary?

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:37 pm
by Bosscat
dvalley69 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 pm
I'm guessing the cost of living there is much higher than Burnley, but is it 68% higher? That would be a better marker. How far does that salary increase take you? Or are you actually worse off living in London despite a higher salary?
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Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:45 pm
by AlargeClaret
Papabendi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:54 pm
One of the best cities in the world vs...Burnley. Hmm.
As the cat said when it licked the dogs arse… “ its all a matter of taste .

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:56 pm
by GetIntoEm
Can you really get £1300 a month for a 3 bed house in Burnley? I'd consider renting mine out and moving abroad for that

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:11 pm
by Boss Hogg
I bet the Burnley salary goes further in Burnley than the London salary does in London. Having lived in London not a chance I’d live there now.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:14 pm
by CoolClaret
You're not going to play much golf in the centre of London.... I'll stick to the rolling hills of east lancs, (and other areas of that nature!)

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:26 pm
by RalphCoatesComb
AlargeClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:45 pm
As the cat said when it licked the dogs arse… “ its all a matter of taste .
:lol:

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:27 pm
by Claret Toni
...quite a long commute to see the clarets.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:36 pm
by Stonehouse
GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:56 pm
Can you really get £1300 a month for a 3 bed house in Burnley? I'd consider renting mine out and moving abroad for that
Have a look on RightMove you’ll be amazed.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:06 pm
by Cirrus_Minor
The West End and all of the touristy places are great for a holiday. But the ridiculous expense needed to live there is not worth upping sticks from my Lancashire home.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
by StuffyClaret
Get the best of both worlds....employed by a London business working 100% remote in East Lancashire.....jobs a good'n 8-)

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
by fatboy47
Small village..crime free..bit of fishing..village cricket..bit of shooting..pint of local cider in the pub with friends...walk my labrador..bit of birdwatching..no traffic bar a few tractors.. no parking issues..snooze in the shade of an old beech tree in the 12th century churchyard....where the clock always says ten to three.

London?....really?

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:18 pm
by Stalbansclaret
The “London’s a s***hole” comments from people on here are as predictable, and baseless, as the “Burnley’s a s***hole” comments we have to listen to from opposition, often Southern, fans. I lived and worked around London for over 35 years and it’s a brilliant place for going out, socialising and experiencing all aspects of life. Of course it’s got its grim areas and people just as Burnley does on a smaller scale. Life is what you make it !
I chose to come back up here because I retired and knew I could achieve a better quality of life because of the economics/cost differences. If I were 21 again I’d have no hesitation about going to London though.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:19 pm
by ClaretPete001
fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
Small village..crime free..bit of fishing..village cricket..bit of shooting..pint of local cider in the pub with friends...walk my labrador..bit of birdwatching..no traffic bar a few tractors.. no parking issues..snooze in the shade of an old beech tree in the 12th century churchyard....where the clock always says ten to three.

London?....really?
Sound like just the ticket.

You'd have to see the research but I doubt London jobs pay 68 per cent more than Burnley like for like.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:23 pm
by Aclaret
fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
Small village..crime free..bit of fishing..village cricket..bit of shooting..pint of local cider in the pub with friends...walk my labrador..bit of birdwatching..no traffic bar a few tractors.. no parking issues..snooze in the shade of an old beech tree in the 12th century churchyard....where the clock always says ten to three.

London?....really?
Ah, you know Bacup then fatboy !

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:28 pm
by JohnMcGreal
fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
Small village..crime free..bit of fishing..village cricket..bit of shooting..pint of local cider in the pub with friends...walk my labrador..bit of birdwatching..no traffic bar a few tractors.. no parking issues..snooze in the shade of an old beech tree in the 12th century churchyard....where the clock always says ten to three.

London?....really?
That all sounds mind-numbingly boring. Each to their own :lol:

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:33 pm
by Croydon Claret
It doesn't have to be all bad if you live on the edge and commute in. Whilst living officially in Croydon borough I'm about 100 yards from the Surrey border with open commons, ancient woods, stables, 2 x golf courses, and a village duck pond all within walking distance. So working in London doesn't have to involve living in Nelson Mandela house and it's a lot more affordable too, relatively speaking.

Nothing will comply compare to the natural beauty of Lancashire but parts of the outer reaches can have much more of a feel of being part of a village, with London somewhere in the commutable distance, rather than being part of a big city.

You couldn't pay me to live within one of the inner boroughs, but there's no reason why you would need to unless you chose to do so.

You never get used to people not talking to you though. It still shocks me after 25 years.It can feel a very lonely place if you're not careful

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:38 pm
by ClaretPete001
Aclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:23 pm
Ah, you know Bacup then fatboy !
Yes, and without wishing to be harsh I think the likeness fell apart after well.....'Small village..crime free..'!

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:17 pm
by Jel
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:27 pm
Londons a shi!thole ... OK to visit but wouldn't want to live there
I hear people from say this often. The thing is that all of London is different. You can walk from an area which is a bit down trodden, and around the corner it's a different world. I've lived in Ealing, Kilburn and Lower Clapton, each are completely different. You can't generalise.
Is all of Burnley the same?

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:24 pm
by Bosscat
Jel wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:17 pm
I hear people from say this often. The thing is that all of London is different. You can walk from an area which is a bit down trodden, and around the corner it's a different world. I've lived in Ealing, Kilburn and Lower Clapton, each are completely different. You can't generalise.
Is all of Burnley the same?
Didn't say it was ... did I.

I wouldn't want to live in Burnley either 😉

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:28 pm
by basil6345789
How do you get a job in a think tank?

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 10:31 pm
by BurnleyFC
If we’re talking about actual London, and not some of the neighbouring leafy suburbs, it’d be near the bottom of my list of places I’d want to live.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:01 pm
by AfloatinClaret
London is or at least was, a great spot to live if you were under 30 and earning decent money

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:21 pm
by CoolClaret
fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
Small village..crime free..bit of fishing..village cricket..bit of shooting..pint of local cider in the pub with friends...walk my labrador..bit of birdwatching..no traffic bar a few tractors.. no parking issues..snooze in the shade of an old beech tree in the 12th century churchyard....where the clock always says ten to three.

London?....really?
"...In our Lancashire homes, In our Lancashiireeee homesssss"

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:31 pm
by Jakubclaret
Jel wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:17 pm
I hear people from say this often. The thing is that all of London is different. You can walk from an area which is a bit down trodden, and around the corner it's a different world. I've lived in Ealing, Kilburn and Lower Clapton, each are completely different. You can't generalise.
Is all of Burnley the same?
I agree it's incredibly short-sighted. London is a vast place with deprived & affluent areas like most major cities & large towns.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:19 am
by taio
Jakubclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:31 pm
I agree it's incredibly short-sighted. London is a vast place with deprived & affluent areas like most major cities & large towns.
Presumably that's why they quote the mean.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:10 am
by Damo
London "one of the best cities in the world"
Yeah, it was, 10 years or so ago

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:16 am
by Shaggy
The main drawbacks for London are its far too busy and the people in general are a bit more superficial than you get in the northern part of the UK.

As for a night out I’d rather go to a Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow than London.

I also like the countryside, nature and nice Rural A roads for some fun driving. Don’t get that in London.

That’s my preferences however each person is different.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:34 am
by TheFamilyCat
Whatever the average salary in London is, it must be pulled down massively by the huge number of minimum wage service jobs.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:17 am
by Corky
I’ve lived in London and the South East for 53 years. I love it. Started off living in central London, Gloucester Road Tube area, then moved to Streatham. In 1980 got married and moved to Tolworth/Surbiton (my wife is from Surbiton). Then made a biggish leap to Guildford Surrey and finally to Fleet Hampshire. Where we are now I can drive into London in about 90 minutes park in Kennington, for free after 6pm weekdays but anytime at weekends, just outside the congestion zone and get the northern line tube to pretty much everywhere I want. And so much of the tube runs overnight that on Fridays we can get the tube to Camden go to Crawdaddy (a soul and r&b do) and then get the tube at 2am back to Kennington. We are also about 90 minutes drive from Brighton and all that has to offer. Easy to get to the West Country for weekends etc. But I still love coming home to Padiham. The countryside is fantastic and as my wife never fails to mention the people are so much more friendly than down south. And of course house prices are bonkers here. A basic 4 bed detached in Fleet will likely set you back £650,000. Which brings me onto the cost of living and wages. My evidence, certainly from what I have gleaned from relatives, is that if you have a good job in Burnley then you tend to have more disposable income as the cost of living is generally cheaper.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:28 am
by Papabendi
Nobody has mentioned the weather yet...everytime i go north these days its either cold or raining or both. Grim

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:29 am
by Papabendi
Corky wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:17 am
I’ve lived in London and the South East for 53 years. I love it. Started off living in central London, Gloucester Road Tube area, then moved to Streatham. In 1980 got married and moved to Tolworth/Surbiton (my wife is from Surbiton). Then made a biggish leap to Guildford Surrey and finally to Fleet Hampshire. Where we are now I can drive into London in about 90 minutes park in Kennington, for free after 6pm weekdays but anytime at weekends, just outside the congestion zone and get the northern line tube to pretty much everywhere I want. And so much of the tube runs overnight that on Fridays we can get the tube to Camden go to Crawdaddy (a soul and r&b do) and then get the tube at 2am back to Kennington. We are also about 90 minutes drive from Brighton and all that has to offer. Easy to get to the West Country for weekends etc. But I still love coming home to Padiham. The countryside is fantastic and as my wife never fails to mention the people are so much more friendly than down south. And of course house prices are bonkers here. A basic 4 bed detached in Fleet will likely set you back £650,000. Which brings me onto the cost of living and wages. My evidence, certainly from what I have gleaned from relatives, is that if you have a good job in Burnley then you tend to have more disposable income as the cost of living is generally cheaper.
It's cheaper in Burnley for a reason

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:50 am
by ClaretOfMancunia
fatboy47 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 8:14 pm
Small village..crime free..bit of fishing..village cricket..bit of shooting..pint of local cider in the pub with friends...walk my labrador..bit of birdwatching..no traffic bar a few tractors.. no parking issues..snooze in the shade of an old beech tree in the 12th century churchyard....where the clock always says ten to three.

London?....really?
All nice if you're getting on a bit I'm sure. I'm not ready for slippers and pipes yet however. One of the things I love about Manchester is being able to go to a different restaurant every weekend, have multiple gigs and shows every night of the week for any taste of music, loads of touring shows, theatre, exhibitions etc. I also like being quite "anonymous" - don't have to see the same faces every time I go out. If I want beech trees and fishing and a long walk I can get in the car and drive 30 minutes in any direction and hit countryside.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:10 am
by CaptJohn
I definitely think that the close proximity of Burnley to Manchester is one of the reasons we can attract the players we do. Most seem to live in the city or just south in the Cheshire area around Wilmslow. There are some lovely areas around Burnley but I feel that the bright lights of Manchester are the attraction. I personally wouldn't like to live in Manchester and I do have a property right in the centre and I certainly wouldn't want to live in London. It's soulless and so expensive.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:36 am
by Herts Clarets
To highlight the obscene property prices in parts of London - on a Saturday morning i have a part time job which involves driving around parts of London. I usually start around Stratford/Isle of Dogs/Bow/Bethnal Green areas of East London and there are some grim old places in that area. I finish around Hampstead/St Johns Wood area and there is a street I drive down, Avenue Road. There is a house for sale on that road, the asking price is £30m. The property has planning permission to build another "super mansion" in line with many other properties on that road, so it's £30m to buy the existing house then costs to demolish and build the new place. To give you an idea of the kind of wealth in that area, there was a burglary recently at a 13 bedroom house on that road where jewelery worth £10.4m was stolen.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:42 am
by Burnley1989
I live to visit cities but I'd much rather be where I am, but that's only the opinion of someone that's only ever lived in the North. (Although, I'm fairly well travelled)
I'm lucky that I work for a company based in the South, so whilst I'll earn the same as my colleagues my cost of living is a fraction of theirs. I looked at possibly moving closer to the office and simply couldn't afford it, so I'll likely stay put for now. The same house I live in down there would be at least twice the cost.

Personally I love London, its just not for me.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:46 am
by LDNBFC87
CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 7:14 pm
You're not going to play much golf in the centre of London.... I'll stick to the rolling hills of east lancs, (and other areas of that nature!)
I played golf weekly for ten years while living in Brixton, to be fair.

London is a fantastic city, imo, but it's certainly not worth the rental prices that landlords seem to think are "going rate" nowadays.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:10 am
by Stanbill05
I had a flat provided in one of the nicer areas of London until recently and it was very pleasant. The city is fantastic, has got something for everyone (even naysayers on here) but it is exhausting. I was always glad to be heading home for a proper rest and then excited heading in again the week after. I couldn't live there permanently myself but glad I got the opportunity to experience it. My missus is less impressed, she hates it. Who knew? People are different and like different things!

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:11 am
by Sutton-Claret
The cost of living is about 168% higher in London making Burnley folk richer in real terms.....

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:22 pm
by dougcollins
Hardly anyone can live in the centre, much of surrounding London is as big a sh!thole as anywhere else.

Re: Burnley v London salaries

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:36 pm
by fatboy47
ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:50 am
I'm not ready for slippers and pipes yet however.
Me neither....non-smoker...if I wanted to fill my lungs with noxious vapours I'd live in a big city...like ..well..London?