Is this what we have become? The expectations from a growing number are beyond ridiculous. We’re 2nd in the league breaking records for fun, but you’d think we were languishing in the bottom half!

Read the report from the Oxford fan. That’s a fair assessment of the game.

Is it a case of younger fans knowing nothing but success so that’s what they expect all the time? I don’t know. Something isn’t right though.

Let’s just get behind our club, be grateful for the success we’ve had and cut out some of the entitled moaning eh?

I've always found some of the comments on YouTube and Fbook to be far more entitled and outlandish than on here.

It's not "entitled" (buzz word alert) to want a slightly better style a few more goal at home etc.

And to add substance to the argument, ever half i terest football fan around the country knows burnley are really boring. We are getting it sung at us. It's not just this fan base....if that's what your getting at.

alboclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:35 pm

It's not "entitled" (buzz word alert) to want a slightly better style a few more goal at home etc.

And to add substance to the argument, ever half i terest football fan around the country knows burnley are really boring. We are getting it sung at us. It's not just this fan base....if that's what your getting at.

Didn't opposition fans chant "boring, boring Arsenal" at the "invincibles"?

People are arseholes. That’s the long and short of it.

Hate to think what the Turf would be like if we were near the bottom of the league!

alboclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:35 pm

It's not "entitled" (buzz word alert) to want a slightly better style a few more goal at home etc.

And to add substance to the argument, ever half i terest football fan around the country knows burnley are really boring. We are getting it sung at us. It's not just this fan base....if that's what your getting at.

We aren't "getting it sung at us" because we are boring, its because we are a successful record breaking team.

Who knew, opposition fans will take the pi55 out of successful teams and try and put them down.

It could catch on?

Leisure wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:47 pm

Hate to think what the Turf would be like if we were near the bottom of the league!

Tuesdays' attendance would look massive in comparison.

Embrace the "Boring Burnley" chants ...
We have embraced the "Burnley's a shithole" chant, just as we embraced "Anti-football" from Chelsea's David Luiz and turned it into a war-cry ...

billyhamilton82 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:48 pm

We aren't "getting it sung at us" because we are boring, its because we are a successful record breaking team.

Who knew, opposition fans will take the pi55 out of successful teams and try and put them down.

It could catch on?

Teams want you to play a way that makes you easy to beat, that's the top and bottom of it. Not one club moaned about VKs football last season as they were battering us every week.

There's a large percentage of people in the world that hate seeing others do well. These days you can lose weight, get in decent shape and go to the gym, you'll still get comments from people about how boring you have become. The worlds changed and people love a bandwagon, rather than applauding people on what's working well.

There's nothing entitled about expecting a team near the top of the table to show a bit more desire to beat one near the bottom at home.

Guarantee the whollys who make out they are mega fans and spend all game vlogging or spend thier life making YouTube videos about other clubs, wouldn’t go to the turf if we ended up in league one

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:05 pm

There's nothing entitled about expecting a team near the top of the table to show a bit more desire to beat one near the bottom at home.

Only difference between Plymouth & Oxford was that we took our chances at Plymouth and everyone thought we were brilliant down there..

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:25 pm

Is this what we have become? The expectations from a growing number are beyond ridiculous. We’re 2nd in the league breaking records for fun, but you’d think we were languishing in the bottom half!

Read the report from the Oxford fan. That’s a fair assessment of the game.

Is it a case of younger fans knowing nothing but success so that’s what they expect all the time? I don’t know. Something isn’t right though.

Let’s just get behind our club, be grateful for the success we’ve had and cut out some of the entitled moaning eh?

Every single point you make is wrong and embarassing. Except the Oxford fan, which is irrelevant.

Clown

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:06 pm

Guarantee the whollys who make out they are mega fans and spend all game vlogging or spend thier life making YouTube videos about other clubs, wouldn’t go to the turf if we ended up in league one

100% couldn't be surer.

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:24 pm

Every single point you make is wrong and embarassing. Except the Oxford fan, which is irrelevant.

Clown

I don't think so

Clown

It's the way SP sets us up
It's about not losing not pretty but it will get us promoted

absolutely hilarious that anyone spouts this 'entitled' crap - just a reminder, Parker himself admits in pretty much every interview that we don't do enough in terms of scoring and creating and it's a work in progress. That Parker, proper entitled expecting his team to do better in an attacking sense.

There are considerably more Burnley fans who react to wins by moaning about other Burnley fans not reacting like they do than there are people complaining about the entertainment by this point.

Why do they feel entitled to a certain reaction from the fanbase?

I mean it’s really not rocket science to figure out what has changed.

We have the most expensive squad in the league and the second highest wage bill.

There is an expectation that the club goes up this season. Most teams that go up automatically are usually pretty decent to watch as they dominate the rest of the league.

We are a really weird phenomenon we are a side that doesn’t really dominate teams and the football is pretty boring (to say the least).

To put a long story short, the expectation from the vast majority of fans (especially on social media) was that we would go up comfortably playing decent football. We are not meeting that expectation so people complain.

Personally I don’t really care, getting up is more important than anything else

Well, I think already the answer is a resounding yes…

Empty vessels make the loudest noise.

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:25 pm

The expectations from a growing number are beyond ridiculous.

What exactly are the ridiculous expectations you're talking about?

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:54 pm

Well, I think already the answer is a resounding yes…

It’s a strange post, Burnley are the Man City of the championship.

Are there fans entitled for expecting them to be winning the league?

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:56 pm

Empty vessels make the loudest noise.

There is a post count underneath your username btw

I dont see entitled fans.

I’d sooner win 3-0 and lose 2-3, that’s still 1.5pts per game, over the 0-0’s producing 1pt per game.

That would be a team with some excitement

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:01 pm

There is a post count underneath your username btw

I know what I’m talking about though, the proverb I posted refers to people who don’t.

All the usual suspects are the first to jump on this thread predictably. They will be the ones heard unless enough of us drown them out.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:01 pm

It’s a strange post, Burnley are the Man City of the championship.

Are there fans entitled for expecting them to be winning the league?

Burnley are the Man City of the Championship…

And there it is

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:51 pm

There is an expectation that the club goes up this season. Most teams that go up automatically are usually pretty decent to watch as they dominate the rest of the league.

We are a really weird phenomenon we are a side that doesn’t really dominate teams and the football is pretty boring (to say the least).

To put a long story short, the expectation from the vast majority of fans (especially on social media) was that we would go up comfortably playing decent football. We are not meeting that expectation so people complain.

Personally I don’t really care, getting up is more important than anything else

If that’s not a text book example of ‘entitled’ I don’t know what is!

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:13 pm

Burnley are the Man City of the Championship…

And there it is

No offence but what else are we?

Our squad was worth ten times the amounts of Oxfords the other night. That is literally what Man City’s would be worth in comparison to us if we were in the prem.

I think everyone wants Scott to do well and is fully behind him, and he is doing a super job there’s no doubt about that, we would all have taken this position at this stage.

I don’t think there’s anything entitled about wanting us to score more than 1 goal, or in some cases, just 1 goal, against teams we should be putting away for fun.

This football is something new to us in that it’s just so flat, with Dyches anti football we were underdogs and in peoples faces and running into the ground, Vinnys team was all out attack for the most part in this league, although last season was no fun. I just don’t think we are used to this style.

I think it’s thoroughly unenjoyable but we look to potentially be heading up, so that’s the trade off I guess.

I do think this style stands us in better stead for the PL than last seasons wide open nonsense.

I honestly think, by and large we're one of the most grounded down to earth set of fans around. Most of us appreciate the fantastic years we've had recently and the (hopefully) great season we'll have this year.

bturd and Leeds supporters on the other hand ... absolutely entitled whoppers.

UTC

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:18 pm

No offence but what else are we?

Our squad was worth ten times the amounts of Oxfords the other night. That is literally what Man City’s would be worth in comparison to us if we were in the prem.

For context this season Man City’s squad is worth 1.3 billion. Ipswich 275 million. Approximately 5 times more in value.

Burnley’s squad is valued at 189 million.
Oxfords squad is valued at 17 million. Approximately ten times more value.

In this circumstance we are the Man City of this league.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:05 pm

There's nothing entitled about expecting a team near the top of the table to show a bit more desire to beat one near the bottom at home.

What does this even mean? They had 15 shots at goal, 7 on target, created a handful of big chances, but just didn’t convert. What was missing in their desire to beat the bottom team? Utter nonsense.

I think part of it is that we have been in the Prem on numerous occasions recently, so there is none of that giddy excitement that we had in the Coyle promo year and the joy we had to be heading back to the big time under Dyche.

Remember us slaving over the 'Magic Numbers', celebrating every team that dropped out of the promotion reckoning?

But now, after last season, there are plenty who are ambivalent about us being promoted if we are just going to get our @rse whipped every week again.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:24 pm

For context this season Man City’s squad is worth 1.3 billion. Ipswich 275 million. Approximately 5 times more in value.

Burnley’s squad is valued at 189 million.
Oxfords squad is valued at 17 million. Approximately ten times more value.

In this circumstance we are the Man City of this league.

Except, obviously, we’re doing miles better in our respective league than Man City…..

We've had a good few years of being pretty successful now for a club of our size. Its just human nature, being in the Prem or at the top of the Championship just isn't that exciting anymore. If we go up this year thats 5 promotions in 16 years.
As daft as it sounds if we had a few years struggling in league 1 then came back up there'd be more of a buzz about the place.

alboclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:35 pm

It's not "entitled" (buzz word alert) to want a slightly better style a few more goal at home etc.

And to add substance to the argument, ever half i terest football fan around the country knows burnley are really boring. We are getting it sung at us. It's not just this fan base....if that's what your getting at.

I’d politely suggest that if all you want is a slightly better style and a few more goals at home, then the OP wasn’t for you. It was probably for the absolute bedwetters (buzz word alert) that are coming out with “worst I’ve EVER seen us play” and “I’m not going on again until he’s gone”

A mate pointed out today that there’s an awful lot of “conditional” fans around these days, and he’s dead right. Supporting Burnley is (and absolutely SHOULD be) unconditional. His words, not mine, but they stand for me too.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:56 pm

Empty vessels make the loudest noise.

What exactly does that mean? Often wondered and obviously still do.

It means those with nothing to say always have the loudest voice.

The problem is that the fans that took us from 16000 to 20000 jumped on board after the first promotion to the premiership and stuck around after that, all they've known is us as a yo-yo club. The promotions since then have been fairly straight forward and easy.

That's what they are used to.

Now we play a different style, and sometimes not as out and out destroying teams they are struggling to cope with it.

Call it entitled, call it glory hunters, call it part timers. Whichever you prefer, but that's the reason.

We could do with the fans sticking with us though. Plus they'll all still be out lining Yorkshire street come may for the open top bus

As someone who wouldn't follow Burnley if they weren't in the Premier League or at least top 6 in the Championship I don't see myself as entitled by expecting us to get promoted playing exciting attacking football.

It's hard enough keeping the faith when you live in a place like Leeds with such a great football club and fanatical fanbase so we could do without all these 0-0 draws we keep having to witness

Why have the buzz words agenda and entitled become words to beat fans with who complain about their team ,we also have happy clappers used to call the ones who never moan,and plastic fans who’ve only supported us since our glory days ,can’t fans just express their views and not be pigeonholed in one group or another.

It’s an interesting thought this notion of entitlement, but I’m not sure it’s a fair or valid assessment of our fan base.

As others have mentioned, how each of us perceives the way we play can be very different from one person to the next.

Personally, as I have said on several occasions, I do often find us a tough watch, but in fairness we should have battered Oxford earlier this week and we played really well. Conversely, I thought we were really poor at Pompey, and for the first time ever, I left with 5 to go because we could have been there all night and not score!

I think this is then compounded by the fact we have had 9 other equally dull games this season, and for some fans, when they pay your hard earned money, you want some form of entertainment!

However, if some fans simply think we should be smashing teams 4-0 every week, then yes, this might be what you mean by entitlement.

martin_p wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:15 pm

If that’s not a text book example of ‘entitled’ I don’t know what is!

That’s not entitled that’s like going into the bookies and putting your money on who you think are the favourite ,entitled really is a word that’s being used to beat fans with when it should be replaced with expections

dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:34 pm

What does this even mean? They had 15 shots at goal, 7 on target, created a handful of big chances, but just didn’t convert. What was missing in their desire to beat the bottom team? Utter nonsense.

Who said I was talking about Tuesday?

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 7:38 pm

Didn't opposition fans chant "boring, boring Arsenal" at the "invincibles"?

No. You’ve got the wrong era / Arsenal team. The invincibles had some incredible attacking talent and were far from boring.

There’s absolutely no middle ground on this message board with a lot of posters - you’re either “entitled” because you're bored and you want more entertainment or you’re a super fan who dismiss any criticism of the team or club in any capacity.

Both can’t wait to have a pop at the other and get on their high horse about it.

It’s a bit sad really.

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:47 pm

There’s absolutely no middle ground on this message board with a lot of posters - you’re either “entitled” because you're bored and you want more entertainment or you’re a super fan who dismiss any criticism of the team or club in any capacity.

Both can’t wait to have a pop at the other and get on their high horse about it.

It’s a bit sad really.

It's not about wanting entertaining, it's the fact there is a minority that take every opportunity to moan and slag players/club/coach off. I don't think there's anyone on here who said it's been rosey all season