LEAGUE CUP 2ND RD

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:04 am

South West Claret. wrote:You obviously don't understand the importance of Burnley FC remaining in the Premiership for another year.

That's beautifully patronising. Are you sure that you don't mean that I have a different opinion of how to do it?

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:20 am

We'll probably draw winner of Sheff Weds v Bury tie, which will result in us being weeks behind the other fixtures as it's been postponed for tonight already.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:28 am

I've put the draw numbers in a sticky post at

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=41207" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:56 am

dsr wrote:That's beautifully patronising. Are you sure that you don't mean that I have a different opinion of how to do it?

No I mean exactly what I said before which I'm sure you will understand at some stage.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:11 am

South West Claret. wrote:You obviously don't understand the importance of Burnley FC remaining in the Premiership for another year.

Maybe some of us think there's more to football than being happy finishing 17th every year and counting the TV money?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:24 am

South West Claret. wrote:No I mean exactly what I said before which I'm sure you will understand at some stage.

Oh, I see. What you're saying is that your view of what Burnley should be doing is the only view and all other views are wrong? You must be a very important person.

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:27 am

South West Claret. wrote:You obviously don't understand the importance of Burnley FC remaining in the Premiership for another year.

Or we think it's possible to have a decent cup run without getting relegated.

In 2008-09 we played 12 cup games and still got promoted. Cup runs aren't the end of the world. When did we all get so pathetic when it comes to playing a few more matches?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:28 am

South West Claret. wrote:You obviously don't understand the importance of Burnley FC remaining in the Premiership for another year.

I`d rather remain in the Premier League personally....not too keen on rugby.

Yes staying up is a priority but hopefully we have a good enough squad to have a better go at the cups. We put a pretty strong side out against Burton last year and we were poor...but they went on to reach the semi final so we weren't`t the only team undone by them.
With hardly any midweek fixtures in the league I think we can afford to put out a good number of first team players and we have a lot of quality on the bench. If the likes of Hendrick, Gibson, JayRod, Charlie Taylor, Bardsley, Lennon start alongside Ben or Tarks, Westwood or Cork, Barnes or Wood, Dwight or JBG etc then we have no excuses. These are established, experienced and expensive players who should be pushing for a first eleven place and looking to impress. What i wouldn't want to see is the likes of Vydra playing if there is no chance they are ever going to be in the league team - anyone who knows however well they do won't be in the team at the weekend cannot be fully motivated in my view.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:30 am

jrgbfc wrote:Maybe some of us think there's more to football than being happy finishing 17th every year and counting the TV money?

Like finishing 16th, 7th and 15th ?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:45 am

We’ve got a very lively squad that can easily be rotated this year and I’d expect a decent crack at the cups . Though aside what the bottom lip quivering brigade believe Dyche has never disrespected any cups and simply does the standard squad rotation ( injuries aside) that any prem manager does .
A very loose XI below looks non too shabby for early rounds

Hart
Bards Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Cork Drinkwater Brady/U23
J Rod Hendrick

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:56 am

Now the squad has quality and strength in depth, we could do with a decent cup(s) run to keep everyone match fit. We get more opportunities to support the Clarets, the club generates more revenue, what's not to like?

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:13 pm

Oh really some of you lot on here really are so childish to keep on arguing about what you want and what the management want. They are different so just except it.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:18 pm

South West Claret. wrote:. They are different so just except it.

Accept *

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:38 pm

An extra 5 or 6 games won't do us any harm. Not sure why so many people on here have this view that having a bit of a cup run leads to automatic relegation.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:42 pm

jrgbfc wrote:An extra 5 or 6 games won't do us any harm. Not sure why so many people on here have this view that having a bit of a cup run leads to automatic relegation.

I think you're missing the point. It's not the game time that could be damaging, but the potential injuries received to key players that is the risk. Why risk playing key players against lower league opposition, who can be more clumsy in the tackle, for a slim chance to win a cup. Our primary focus has to be the Premier League and as such we cannot risk injuries in the early rounds.

Granted, if we made it to the quarter/semi final I think we should then take it more seriously, but until then, not for me.

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:45 pm

Hope salford beat leeds

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:46 pm

A good cup run can also improve the league form by creating that buzz and winning mentality.

However SD will look to have us out of them ASAP.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:49 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I think you're missing the point. It's not the game time that could be damaging, but the potential injuries received to key players that is the risk. Why risk playing key players against lower league opposition, who can be more clumsy in the tackle, for a slim chance to win a cup. Our primary focus has to be the Premier League and as such we cannot risk injuries in the early rounds.

Granted, if we made it to the quarter/semi final I think we should then take it more seriously, but until then, not for me.

You only have to look at our last proper cup run, under Owen Coyle, to see how damaging it can be.

Oh, hang on ...

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:50 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:We’ve got a very lively squad that can easily be rotated this year and I’d expect a decent crack at the cups . Though aside what the bottom lip quivering brigade believe Dyche has never disrespected any cups and simply does the standard squad rotation ( injuries aside) that any prem manager does .
A very loose XI below looks non too shabby for early rounds

Hart
Bards Long Gibson Taylor
Lennon Cork Drinkwater Brady/U23
J Rod Hendrick

That is some shadow 11!

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:56 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I think you're missing the point. It's not the game time that could be damaging, but the potential injuries received to key players that is the risk. Why risk playing key players against lower league opposition, who can be more clumsy in the tackle, for a slim chance to win a cup. Our primary focus has to be the Premier League and as such we cannot risk injuries in the early rounds.

Granted, if we made it to the quarter/semi final I think we should then take it more seriously, but until then, not for me.

Well at least some posters have a brain on here today.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:56 pm

dsr wrote:You only have to look at our last proper cup run, under Owen Coyle, to see how damaging it can be.

Oh, hang on ...

oh yeah, that year we won the cup... hang on a minute...........

I understand your point, but you've completely misunderstood mine. I get that a cup run can be good for morale and can improve performances, but it also can cause injuries to key players - it is a risk that the management team assess and act accordingly.

If memory serves - in the early rounds in that Captial Punishment cup run - didn't Coyle rest key players until the later rounds...??? I'm sure Jay Rod started some of the early games, but was only a sub in the latter stages.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:01 pm

Quicknick wrote:That is some shadow 11!

If you took out Cork as he is a starter and stick Vydra in then that side would be easily relegated especially with the state of Brady and his injury problems.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:07 pm

bfcmik wrote:... it's about as funny as falling into a 3/4 full cesspit.

To be honest, I bet that is rather funny...

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:42 pm

I think we should win it for the silverware, trip to Wembley and Europa Cup (as a standby, if we only finish 5th.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:46 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:I think we’ll draw Forest.

I hope not. Forest are a bigger club than us. We've only got a Wood.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:07 pm

whiffa wrote:To be honest, I bet that is rather funny...

Is that where you screen name comes from? maybe that's why it wouldn't affect you and you would find it amusing?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:42 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:If you took out Cork as he is a starter and stick Vydra in then that side would be easily relegated especially with the state of Brady and his injury problems.

As far as shadow XI’s/low round league cup games it’s very tidy I’d say

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:26 pm

Goobs wrote:Is that where you screen name comes from? maybe that's why it wouldn't affect you and you would find it amusing?

The element of falling in would be humorous - the possible death part, not so much.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:36 pm

Though personally I would prefer a Saturday cup run to a Tuesday night cup run.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:37 pm

timshorts wrote:I hope not. Forest are a bigger club than us. We've only got a Wood.

Don't forget the Ash

we have 2 of those so with Wood that makes a copse

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:27 pm

We have no excuse for not taking both cups seriously this year,there is no EL distraction,and we have a decent squad now.

It's not just the XI selected that matters it's their attitude,could we win one of the domestic trophies,it's unlikely but we could at least have a go.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:46 pm

A run to the League Cup Final, providing we exit the FA Cup in the 3rd Round gives us a 46 game season. A run to the FA Cup Final, providing we go out of the League Cup 2nd Round is a 45 game season, not exactly a fixture backlog is it? We cope well with these amount of games in the Championship and with better facilities, squad (technically, depth wise and fitness) plus better staff behind the scenes, particularly sports science and physios, a decent cup run is easily manageable.

As a side point calling Carlisle away in 2nd round.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:54 pm

Has it started yet?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:01 pm

I’ve updated the sticky after tonight’s results. Now ready for the draw.

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:08 pm

Some intriguing possible ties there....Lincoln,Bstds,Nobbers,Morecambe,Stoke,Rochdale but knowing our luck it'll be Leicester away

PWBFC · Post by **PWBFC** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:10 pm

Sunderland at home.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:10 pm

Sunderland... at least its a home tie

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:11 pm

Way ay man

ClaretFan1994 · Post by **ClaretFan1994** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:11 pm

BURNLEY V SUNDERLAND

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:12 pm

Sunderland at home

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:12 pm

Always love it when people race to type who wev got 1st

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:12 pm

At least a home game

Willy · Post by **Willy** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:13 pm

Forest v Derby!

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:14 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Always love it when people race to type who wev got 1st

@wev

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:17 pm

Never know - Vydra might get on the bench for this one!

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:21 pm

Can't really complain about that after some of the rubbish draws we've had in recent years. No doubt we'll make changes but we should still have enough to beat Sunderland at home.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:21 pm

Dyche will be pleased as there won’t be too many grumbles when we lose.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:27 pm

Full draw now at link
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Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:42 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:Always love it when people race to type who wev got 1st

You should win pal, as you're not arsed about spelling.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:43 pm

Did they put out a load of reserves at Stanley tonight does anyone know?