McNeil

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Post Reply
ClaretAL
Posts: 2871
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:39 pm
Been Liked: 1144 times
Has Liked: 966 times

McNeil

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:50 pm

I M not knock8ng the lad or saying he played poor today, but I couldn't make the Liverpool game so just wondered if him playing more central midfield happened then also? Time and time again he stayed central today rather than give an outlet out wide or crossover with Pieters, but plenty of times Cork covered the space where McNeil should have been so it was as if it was an instruction to Dwight to do this, just wondered if it was the same against Liverpool or just a tactic for this match?

Quickenthetempo
Posts: 19690
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:35 am
Been Liked: 4184 times
Has Liked: 2239 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:52 pm

Did you miss him running down the wing and crossing for the 2nd goal?
We go to a narrow midfield a lot when in front or under pressure.

MACCA
Posts: 15627
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:10 am
Been Liked: 4376 times

Re: McNeil

Post by MACCA » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:55 pm

A few were saying he's been quiter lately around us, but I put that down to 2 things

1. Peiters is less attacking than Taylor, so doesnt take a player away by overlapping time after time like Taylor does ( not a dig, as Peiters seems solid and I'm happy )
2. He's been noticed for last seasons contribution, so extra attention given to keep him quiet.
This user liked this post: Tricky Trevor

Darnhill Claret
Posts: 3045
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:55 pm
Been Liked: 660 times
Has Liked: 2283 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:56 pm

Thought he played well. Just the 2 assists, I think.

SGr
Posts: 4424
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:46 pm
Been Liked: 1029 times
Has Liked: 307 times

Re: McNeil

Post by SGr » Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:57 pm

He's on 3 for the season now

wilks_bfc
Posts: 13028
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:33 pm
Been Liked: 3666 times
Has Liked: 2112 times
Contact:

Re: McNeil

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:05 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:Thought he played well. Just the 2 assists, I think.
Westwood took the corner for the first goal

Tall Paul
Posts: 7392
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:07 am
Been Liked: 2636 times
Has Liked: 728 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:19 pm

I thought he had a good game.

Tricky Trevor
Posts: 10456
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:06 pm
Been Liked: 3072 times
Has Liked: 2434 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:32 pm

He is so much better wide left but most matches, at some point, he pops over on the right and does nothing. It detracts from what he has done on the left.

dougcollins
Posts: 9146
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:23 am
Been Liked: 2372 times
Has Liked: 2344 times
Location: Yarkshire

Re: McNeil

Post by dougcollins » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:35 pm

He does what he's told, you're criticising the wrong person.
This user liked this post: boatshed bill

Darnhill Claret
Posts: 3045
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:55 pm
Been Liked: 660 times
Has Liked: 2283 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:38 pm

Oh well, celebrating the win, being bought plenty by fellow footie fans. Cambridge, Gooners, Chelsea, L'pool, Newcastle.

ClaretAL
Posts: 2871
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:39 pm
Been Liked: 1144 times
Has Liked: 966 times

Re: McNeil

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:40 pm

dougcollins wrote:He does what he's told, you're criticising the wrong person.

Not a criticism by any means mate, he has it all in his locker, but he just seemed to stop central no matter what today so presume he had been instructed to.

MDWat
Posts: 2777
Joined: Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:42 pm
Been Liked: 947 times
Has Liked: 288 times
Location: Bradford
Contact:

Re: McNeil

Post by MDWat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Thought he was really good today.

Granny WeatherWax
Posts: 2906
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:20 pm
Been Liked: 728 times
Has Liked: 93 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Obviously had a rocket up his arse midweek. Was superb.

Giftonsnoidea
Posts: 1360
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:56 pm
Been Liked: 225 times
Has Liked: 248 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:23 pm

Granny WeatherWax wrote:Obviously had a rocket up his arse midweek. Was superb.
We shouldn’t talk about his private life on here :shock:

Nonayforever
Posts: 3669
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:15 pm
Been Liked: 788 times
Has Liked: 182 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:28 pm

McNeil is the best young player to grace the premier League.
He will go for mega money next season.

Burnley1989
Posts: 8518
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:19 am
Been Liked: 2663 times
Has Liked: 2357 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:33 pm

In all honesty I’ve been frustrated with the moans but I understand the development and I’m so excited by his potential as are the whole team! Trust me when I say all the first team players get so excited when McNeil Excels, they all know how exciting he can become !

Steve-Harpers-perm
Posts: 6441
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:52 am
Been Liked: 2089 times
Has Liked: 969 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:41 pm

I thought he played well while my dad felt he wasn’t at his best! He’s only going to get better a very exciting talent!

Jakubs Tash
Posts: 3158
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:18 pm
Been Liked: 813 times
Has Liked: 284 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:45 pm

McNeil was very good today. We won the game in the first 15-20 minutes of the game and McNeil was pivotal in this period. Norwich couldn't handle him when he had possession and when they had the ball his energy in pressing and closing them down was sensational. He wasn't on his own with this either.

It's very clear that at half time when we were 2 goals to the good, Dyche likely asked McNeil to move more centrally to strengthen the middle of the park. Norwich didn't really have wingers so we could leave more space out wide.

Today was an excellent team performance and McNeil was a real thorn in the side for Norwich.

Bordeauxclaret
Posts: 11193
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:36 pm
Been Liked: 3611 times
Has Liked: 2230 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:46 pm

Should have had another assist in 2nd half for Wood’s chance.
Great to see someone try to beat a full back. Doesn’t always come off but great to see.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue
Posts: 1842
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:42 pm
Been Liked: 670 times
Has Liked: 1254 times

Re: McNeil

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:51 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Should have had another assist in 2nd half for Wood’s chance.
Great to see someone try to beat a full back. Doesn’t always come off but great to see.
That was superb by Dwight, turned his man inside out and looked up to pick a pass.
This user liked this post: Bordeauxclaret

Bordeauxclaret
Posts: 11193
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:36 pm
Been Liked: 3611 times
Has Liked: 2230 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:58 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:That was superb by Dwight, turned his man inside out and looked up to pick a pass.
Yes. The calmness after the initial bit of skill was very impressive.

TheFamilyCat
Posts: 12182
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:56 pm
Been Liked: 5988 times
Has Liked: 226 times

Re: McNeil

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:05 pm

Dyche has clearly knocked any thought of creativity out of him.

He'll be playing full back for Blackpool in 3 years.
This user liked this post: Lord Beamish

Bosscat
Posts: 28789
Joined: Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:51 am
Been Liked: 9634 times
Has Liked: 20695 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Bosscat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:07 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Dyche has clearly knocked any thought of creativity out of him.

He'll be playing full back for Blackpool in 3 years.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: McNeil

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:11 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:Dyche has clearly knocked any thought of creativity out of him.

He'll be playing full back for Blackpool in 3 years.
He charged past 4 bulls and crossed the ball in for Wood to put us 2-0 up.

TheFamilyCat
Posts: 12182
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:56 pm
Been Liked: 5988 times
Has Liked: 226 times

Re: McNeil

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:19 pm

FactualFrank wrote:He charged past 4 bulls and crossed the ball in for Wood to put us 2-0 up.
I'll ignore the fact that there were no bulls on the pitch and point out that sarcasm clearly isn't your strong point
This user liked this post: Lord Beamish

Blackrod
Posts: 5114
Joined: Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:41 pm
Been Liked: 1348 times
Has Liked: 608 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Blackrod » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:28 pm

Played very well today IMO. Whilst he did move into central positions you don’t know what Dyche is instructing him to do.

claretspice
Posts: 6384
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:13 am
Been Liked: 3160 times
Has Liked: 148 times

Re: McNeil

Post by claretspice » Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:51 pm

I thought he got into positions today in which he could influence the game - not only with his crossing but also with his passing.

We always set up with the wingers narrow, but that also suits McNeil. He's a handful out wide and his greatest asset to us is of course his crossing, but he relies on trickery rather than out and out pace to beat a man (although he's quick enough) and quite naturally teams have begun to do more homework on him and to work out what he's trying to do when he's out wide. But fortunately for us and him he's no one-dimensional player - he's got lovely movement, an ability to find space and a good appreciation of a pass too.

It was never realistic to expect him to keep hugging the touchline without teams cutting off the supply line or failing to track him properly. So we're seeing less eye-catching contributions from him those areas (although the first goal today was a classic of that type), but if today is anything to go by, we'll begin to see more rounded performances of the type that I imagine over time will become his trademark.

boatshed bill
Posts: 17191
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
Been Liked: 3527 times
Has Liked: 7718 times

Re: McNeil

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:40 pm

I thought he played really well. Massive potential, and already a top player.

bfcmik
Posts: 4222
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:03 pm
Been Liked: 1013 times
Has Liked: 1198 times
Location: Solihull Geriatric Centre

Re: McNeil

Post by bfcmik » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:11 am

FactualFrank wrote:He charged past 4 bulls and crossed the ball in for Wood to put us 2-0 up.
Bulls? Aren't Norwich players called canaries?

ClaretRock
Posts: 155
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:02 am
Been Liked: 38 times
Has Liked: 86 times

Re: McNeil

Post by ClaretRock » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:12 am

Thought he had a good game today. Was subbed at the right time as he looked gassed.
This user liked this post: BleedingClaret

bfcjg
Posts: 14846
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:17 pm
Been Liked: 5696 times
Has Liked: 8364 times

Re: McNeil

Post by bfcjg » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:25 am

Played very well.

welsbyswife
Posts: 1091
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:50 pm
Been Liked: 542 times
Has Liked: 285 times

Re: McNeil

Post by welsbyswife » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:09 am

Top player. Has a bit of Chris Waddle in him; not necessarily in playing style but in the way he always looks knackered. Think it's just how he moves.

GDK
Posts: 80
Joined: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:50 pm
Been Liked: 34 times
Has Liked: 100 times

Re: McNeil

Post by GDK » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:34 am

The only concern with Dwight is that he tends to fade a bit in the second half of most games, though this is inevitable with the amount of running he is doing. But we now have Brady, Lennon or JBG to replace him when he tires so it isn't really a concern at all.

Danieljwaterhouse
Posts: 1009
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:55 pm
Been Liked: 308 times
Has Liked: 350 times

Re: McNeil

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:38 am

GDK wrote:The only concern with Dwight is that he tends to fade a bit in the second half of most games, though this is inevitable with the amount of running he is doing. But we now have Brady, Lennon or JBG to replace him when he tires so it isn't really a concern at all.
I’d love to see Dwight's fitness reports. He looks gifted in so many areas of his game but seriously looks down in his endurance and ability to make sprints. He is maximising his talent for sure but you can’t escape genetics. It may well be his limiting factor.

Post Reply