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LoveCurryPies
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by LoveCurryPies » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:55 am
3 points today only moved us up 1 place. However, a win against Bournemouth could possibly move us up 2 or 3 places.
It’s not going to be an easy game, Bournemouth have a relegation fight on.
So all eyes on next weekend. Your predictions?

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by Down_Rover » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:59 am
It will be cold
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by tim_noone » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:00 pm
It might be Embarrassing..
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by ElectroClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:11 pm
The pressure's off after the last few games. Not a chance we'll be going down now, so I think we'll play with a greater confidence and freedom so I expect to win and win well 2/3 nil.
PS. Hope we see more of Vydra, even if CW is fit.
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by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:12 pm
Might not be Arsenal levels but they’ll be plenty of rolling round in the long grass.
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by Jakubs Tash » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:14 pm
Lots of Burnley fans are now expecting us to beat Bournemouth which is dangerous. I think it will be a really tough game and if Burnley aren't 'on it' we'll get beat.
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by Bosscat » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:14 pm
We should all get points cards to hold up when the "Diving Starts"
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by Silkyskills1 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:25 pm
The 'intensity' has got to be there in any game we play. Any showboating or 'oles' and we risk being rolled over.
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by fatboy47 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:31 pm
We need to front up to this bunch of mincing southern tarts. Give them a real beefing and turn them over in true Burnley fashion.
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by AlargeClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:42 pm
Eddie won’t be looking forward to an away trip to in form Burnley with his struggling bunch of flouncing underperforming powder puff nancy boys
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by Bosscat » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:48 pm
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:42 pm
Eddie won’t be looking forward to an away trip to in form Burnley with his struggling bunch of
flouncing underperforming powder puff nancy boys
Don't sit on the fence with your opinions on Bournemouths footballers AlC tell us what you really think of them...

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by Vino blanco » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:51 pm
This won't be an easy game, believe me. We will need to play to our strengths with everyone being mentally prepared. I'll go for 5-0.
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by ŽižkovClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:53 pm
We could absolutely blast them off the park
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by Lord Beamish » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:53 pm
Hat-Trick for Vydra.
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by Firthy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:03 pm
tim_noone wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:00 pm
It might be Embarrassing..
For who?
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by IanMcL » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:24 pm
Any team can beat us.
We can beat any team (maybe not Arsenal but that is down to prem needs and the gods).
If the players are looking up, like they did in 2009 and when we qualified recently, then they will be saying to each other....we can do this. Europe for a professional footballer, is a great achievement. An accolade they will all want.
We will then all believe and unite in the quest.
Any other thought and we become sitting targets.
I fancy another Euro trip, with the Mighty Clarets!
I do think we will be prepared with knowledge learned, too.
Up the Clarets!
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NewClaret
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by NewClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:42 pm
Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:14 pm
Lots of Burnley fans are now expecting us to beat Bournemouth which is dangerous. I think it will be a really tough game and if Burnley aren't 'on it' we'll get beat.
Agreed.
I thought we’d beat Villa and Palace at home and look how that turned out.
Complacency could undo us here. Hope Dyche keeps the boys grounded and they’re up for it.
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by Firthy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:54 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:42 pm
Complacency could undo us here. Hope Dyche keeps the boys grounded and they’re up for it.
We could easily have been complacent yesterday after our three previous results but we weren't. I doubt SD will let it happen against Bournemouth, I think he'll want this one with Eddie being ex Burnley.
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by Lord Beamish » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:00 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:42 pm
I thought we’d beat Villa and Palace at home and look how that turned out.
I strongly suspect that we will never beat Crystal Palace at home whilst Hodgeson is their manager and the have Wilfred Zaha playing for them. Hodgeson has Dyche’s game sussed and uses Zaha’s pace and skill to great effect against our rigid style.
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by tim_noone » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:48 pm
Firthy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:03 pm
For who?
Just referencing their Embarrassing rendition down at their place. Would be nice to return it with caustic wit if they struggle with....long grass..short grass or the physicality of football in general

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by ewanrob » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:58 pm
Lord Beamish wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:00 pm
I strongly suspect that we will never beat Crystal Palace at home whilst Hodgeson is their manager and the have Wilfred Zaha playing for them. Hodgeson has Dyche’s game sussed and uses Zaha’s pace and skill to great effect against our rigid style.
Bang on
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by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:59 pm
Bournemouth gave Sheff Utd a really tough game recently, we will need to be right at it again to win
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by Tricky Trevor » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:03 pm
Without that soft pen Wolves equalised with we’d be above them. Folk are raving about Nuno and his team.
No gimmes in this league. We don’t want to show up expecting a win like we appeared to do against Villa.
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by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:06 pm
Watched them against Villa a couple of weeks back and they were terrible. I couldn't believe they won the game. Expect a competitive game, but think we will edge it.
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by NewClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:47 pm
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:03 pm
Without that soft pen Wolves equalised with we’d be above them. Folk are raving about Nuno and his team.
No gimmes in this league. We don’t want to show up expecting a win like we appeared to do against Villa.
That pen still annoys me!!

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by bfcmik » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:07 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:47 pm
That pen still annoys me!!
Me too
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by Bosscat » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:09 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:47 pm
That pen still annoys me!!
And me

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by Spijed » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:10 pm
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:03 pm
We don’t want to show up expecting a win like we appeared to do against Villa.
We are now in the zone, in the zone!

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by Longsider » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:19 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:47 pm
That pen still annoys me!!
Me too
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by bodge » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:22 pm
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by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:23 pm
Was a clear penalty. Get over it. We got away with a blatant one yesterday
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by randomclaret2 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:23 pm
And me....and the joke decision at Leicester...
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by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:31 pm
I still haven't got over all the dodgy decisions Arsenal have had against us over the last 7 years !
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by SparkyClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:49 pm
Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:23 pm
Was a clear penalty. Get over it. We got away with a blatant one yesterday
I thought it was a penalty yesterday at first glance. Saw the replay and it really wasn't one "we got away with". Yes it strikes his arm, but he hasn't moved it towards the ball, neither did he attempt to make himself bigger, so no penalty
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by nil_desperandum » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:58 pm
SparkyClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:49 pm
I thought it was a penalty yesterday at first glance. Saw the replay and it really wasn't one "we got away with". Yes it strikes his arm, but he hasn't moved it towards the ball, neither did he attempt to make himself bigger, so no penalty
There's absolutely no doubt that it would have been a penalty had Lee Mason been in charge. I can see him now with that inane grin on his face as he quickly pointed towards the spot. Had it been given, then I doubt VAR would have over-ruled it, so in that sense I suppose we got a bit lucky.
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by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:18 pm
Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:23 pm
Was a clear penalty. Get over it. We got away with a blatant one yesterday
What was the blatant one we got away with yesterday?
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by SparkyClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:20 pm
nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:58 pm
There's absolutely no doubt that it would have been a penalty had Lee Mason been in charge. I can see him now with that inane grin on his face as he quickly pointed towards the spot. Had it been given, then I doubt VAR would have over-ruled it, so in that sense I suppose we got a bit lucky.
Yeah, but that pisses me off as well, it the laws of the game, so surely they aren't open to wild interpretation. If there's only one ref out of 20 who sees it that way, then they are clearly an outlier and need retraining
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by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:21 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:18 pm
What was the blatant one we got away with yesterday?
Ben Mee handball. This board would be in meltdown if we didn't get that.
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by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:23 pm
I hope that little Jock gets kicked to first slip on the cricket pitch.
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by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:25 pm
Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:21 pm
Ben Mee handball. This board would be in meltdown if we didn't get that.
Can you explain how under the laws of the game that was a handball? It’s irrelevant whether this message board would have been in meltdown, which I doubt it would. It was never a handball and that’s why the referee didn’t give it and the VAR took about 5 seconds to concur.
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by nil_desperandum » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:25 pm
SparkyClaret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:20 pm
Yeah, but that pisses me off as well, it the laws of the game, so surely they aren't open to wild interpretation. If there's only one ref out of 20 who sees it that way, then they are clearly an outlier and need retraining
I think you probably missed my point there. I'm not suggesting that Mason would have seen that as handball had it been against any other team, but against us - no doubt.
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by Bosscat » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:26 pm
Had the penalty been given ... I very much doubt anyone on here would be disputing it ... my problem is when the "Sainted VAR" awards penalties that most certainly are not ... so perhaps VAR was re-addressing the balance for dodgy decisions the other way.
But who cares we won and did our 1st double over Southampton for 73 years

and the 1st one of the season ... lets make it number 2 next week v Bournemouth, and 3 the week after at Newcastle

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by SparkyClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:29 pm
nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:25 pm
I think you probably missed my point there. I'm not suggesting that Mason would have seen that as handball had it been against any other team, but against us - no doubt.
Ah, I get you, cheers for clarifying. Lee Mason does boil my **** to be fair

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by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:39 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:25 pm
Can you explain how under the laws of the game that was a handball? It’s irrelevant whether this message board would have been in meltdown, which I doubt it would. It was never a handball and that’s why the referee didn’t give it and the VAR took about 5 seconds to concur.
Who knows what the laws of the game regarding handball is. I've seen perfectly good goals disallowed for a 'handball' in the build up to it and blatant handballs not given. I suppose it depends whos on VAR duty
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by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:43 pm
Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:39 pm
Who knows what the laws of the game regarding handball is. I've seen perfectly good goals disallowed for a 'handball' in the build up to it and blatant handballs not given. I suppose it depends whos on VAR duty
Goals being disallowed due to handball aren’t relevant in this case as we all know that any contact between the the ball and hand of an attacking player in the build up to a goal is penalised. The ball hitting Ben Mee’s arm is not handball and never has been.
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by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:45 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:43 pm
Goals being disallowed due to handball aren’t relevant in this case as we all know that any contact between the the ball and hand of an attacking player in the build up to a goal is penalised. The ball hitting Ben Mee’s arm is not handball and never has been.
Where were Mees arms when the ball hit him? Down by his side? Or outstretched?
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by dougcollins » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:50 pm
Banana skin is this game.
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by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:02 pm
Blackburn_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:45 pm
Where were Mees arms when the ball hit him? Down by his side? Or outstretched?
Down by his side.
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by Blackburn_Claret » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:03 pm
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:02 pm
Down by his side.
Ok thanks. I've not seen it just going off hear say
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by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:11 pm
Bosscat wrote: ↑Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:26 pm
Had the penalty been given ... I very much doubt anyone on here would be disputing it ... my problem is when the "Sainted VAR" awards penalties that most certainly are not ... so perhaps VAR was re-addressing the balance for dodgy decisions the other way.
But who cares we won and did our 1st double over Southampton for 73 years

and the 1st one of the season ... lets make it number 2 next week v Bournemouth, and 3 the week after at Newcastle
I’d have disputed it. It was never a penalty in a million years. Didn’t think so at the ground and definitely didn’t think so after watching MOTD.