The Newcastle match

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:28 pm

A win next weekend would surely guarantee another year in the PL.

What a difference a few weeks make.

Players must be buzzing following today’s performances and the recent run of form. Bring them on!!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:31 pm

This team oozes a real, visible , tight knit , togetherness.

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:42 pm

Season turned on Pope’s penalty save v Leicester

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:42 pm

Burnley have 10 clean sheets now. Only Liverpool have more. Amazing stat!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:42 pm

I think 37 points has every chance of being enough, so we might already be safe without picking up any more points.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:44 pm

We are safe no IMO.

I'm still of the opinion like the previous penalty v Leicester that was the season turning point

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:47 pm

Imagine if we hadn't had a few bad patches without the togetherness . Frightening what Dyche can get out of his players. Surely after we beat Liverpool and secure our champions league place at the end of the season Dyche will be contending with Klopp for MOS.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:48 pm

I am a Big Barnes fan but we have changed our game plan and look a far better team since he got injured. With Barnes playing we were very one dimensional. J Rod is getting fitter and looking better by the week and Vydra is a revelation.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm

Not the slightest chance we'll go down now.
Let's look up.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm

A pity we didn't get enough tickets, I am in with the Newcastle fans.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:04 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:48 pm
I am a Big Barnes fan but we have changed our game plan and look a far better team since he got injured. With Barnes playing we were very one dimensional. J Rod is getting fitter and looking better by the week and Vydra is a revelation.

So much better without Barnes. Forces us to at least attempt to play some football and it’s working.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:44 pm

Barnes is a far better player than some on here suggest. Started the season well but then found himself with an injury he couldn't shake off and his form and no doubt self confidence were affected. Very unfair that he is being singled out as responsible for our more indifferent form throughout the season. We seem to like a scapegoat on here.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:48 pm

Spot on, Silky.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:56 pm

Look up you tossers, look up.

Ffs we are a roll and chasing a European spot, lets hear no talk about surviving

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:19 pm

Barnes is a terrific player, let’s not start knocking him. However, other players have started to perform and that can only be good news.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:05 am

Chris Wood is reportedly available to play. So, do you start him and take off Vydra or Jay or give him a place on the bench?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:18 am

Same team as last week for me
A real kick in the teeth to drop Vydra

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:18 am

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:05 am
Chris Wood is reportedly available to play. So, do you start him and take off Vydra or Jay or give him a place on the bench?

Mr Dyche mantra is be ready for when the opportunity arises, then it's your turn to try and keep the shirt.

I think both Jay and Vydra have both done that, so it would be extremely harsh on either to be dropped after 2 wins, and 3 goals in 2 between them.
If we are being honest it could and maybe should have been 5 goals in 2 games for them.

Let's hope they are on the right side of lady luck this weekend.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:53 am

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:44 pm
Very unfair that he is being singled out as responsible for our more indifferent form throughout the season. We seem to like a scapegoat on here.

I don’t get that impression from anything I’ve read, Silky, but the style has undoubtedly changed for the better with VAR up front. Big decision for SD whether to bring Wood back in. At the moment I’d hope no change to team.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:53 am

Same team.

VaR have a lot better link up play than WaB, although they all seem to be able to score.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:58 am

I'm setting off shortly! (Well it's a lot of steps up to those away seats for a guy like me, so thought I'd better start today!!!

)

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:08 am

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:58 am
I'm setting off shortly! (Well it's a lot of steps up to those away seats for a guy like me, so thought I'd better start today!!! )

the only way is up DC!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:10 am

Bfcboyo wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:47 pm
Imagine if we hadn't had a few bad patches without the togetherness . Frightening what Dyche can get out of his players. Surely after we beat Liverpool and secure our champions league place at the end of the season Dyche will be contending with Klopp for MOS.

Chris Wilder will win MOTS,unless the Blades really fall away in the latter part of the season.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:11 am

MACCA wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:18 am
I think both Jay and Vydra have both done that, so it would be extremely harsh on either to be dropped after 2 wins, and 3 goals in 2 between them.
If we are being honest it could and maybe should have been 5 goals in 2 games for them.

They could both have had Hattricks v Burnmuff last week...

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:12 am

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:10 am
Chris Wilder will win MOTS,unless the Blades really fall away in the latter part of the season.

Klopps nailed on for MotS

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:13 am

Be safe travelling clarets as there is some real crappy weather about again, tomorrow especially.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:05 am

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm
A pity we didn't get enough tickets, I am in with the Newcastle fans.

I hope you will have our colours clearly on show. What you gonna do when we score?!

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:08 am

LoveCurryPies wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:05 am
Chris Wood is reportedly available to play. So, do you start him and take off Vydra or Jay or give him a place on the bench?

Dyche will not change the current team. Wood will be on the bench.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:27 am

My team when all fit maybe for next season would be

Pope

*New* Tarks Mee Taylor

J-Rod Brownhill Vydra McNeil

Barnes Wood

Frenchclaret · Post by **Frenchclaret** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:44 am

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:27 am
My team when all fit maybe for next season would be

Pope

*New* Tarks Mee Taylor

J-Rod Brownhill Vydra McNeil

Barnes Wood

Vydra in mid-field? Westwood is twice the player in that position as he is far more industrious and more physical than Vydra. I suggest we wait and see if Vydra continues to produce the goods up front and if so then Barnes would have to make way. Rodrigues also has a chance to make his position permanent.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:46 am

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:27 am
My team when all fit maybe for next season would be

Pope

*New* Tarks Mee Taylor

J-Rod Brownhill Vydra McNeil

Barnes Wood

Are you Brent Peters?....Owen Coyle?

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:49 am

On Barnes and Vydra, both great players...but form dips, what doesn't dip is The Shithousery that comes with Barnes, has been and will continue to be a major tool in our armoury.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:39 pm

Can't believe people are knocking Barnes after the woeful performances earlier in the season notably from players like Mee and Lowton. The whole squad is playing better, lets enjoy it and try to find something else to moan about!

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:55 pm

Barnes would fit in very nicely with the style of play we are playing in the main at the moment.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:59 pm

Barnes and Wood did well early season and there was a thread about them, that was bumped up pretty much after every game, as they'd played well together. Jay and Vydra are now playing together, but all 4 are just as important as each other.

Fast-forward a few weeks, and we'll probably be saying how good a different X and Y partnership is doing well.

It's exactly what we want. 4 forwards who all offer something significant to the team, when they get their chance.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:04 pm

I'm a big Barnes fan, in fact when we were playing Hendrick in the number 10 role behind Wood I was crying out on here for Dyche to play Wood and Barnes together. However, I have always said we need to play better football and since Jayrod has been in the team we have much more of a link between defence, midfield and attack and our football has definitely improved. With Vydra and Jayrod in the team we have even improved our style of football further: in the last couple of games the whole team has moved further up the pitch due to our better ball retention, against Bournemouth we had Tarks and Mee on the half way line at times starting attacks.
I would keep Vydra and Jayrod together tomorrow, since we can always bring Wood on when Vydra tires (which he does).

Notsosuperstevedavis · Post by **Notsosuperstevedavis** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:13 pm

We have changed the way we play and I feel that is down to the intellegence of our players and realising that our strikers have different skills.

You could also credit SD with giving them the freedomto attack how they like, as ling as they defend as requested.

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:44 pm
Barnes is a far better player than some on here suggest. Started the season well but then found himself with an injury he couldn't shake off and his form and no doubt self confidence were affected. Very unfair that he is being singled out as responsible for our more indifferent form throughout the season. We seem to like a scapegoat on here.

The issue here, is not that Barnes is getting undue critiscm,

He was clearly injured and ineffective, but not through a lack of effort,
This is factual information that whilst he was in this condition, we didnt do as well as we could.

This is not a criticism of Barnes - more of SD for picking him and persevering as long as he did. It showed a lasckof faith in the backup players

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm

Frenchclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:44 am
Vydra in mid-field? Westwood is twice the player in that position as he is far more industrious and more physical than Vydra. I suggest we wait and see if Vydra continues to produce the goods up front and if so then Barnes would have to make way. Rodrigues also has a chance to make his position permanent.

Vydra was brought in for the midfield okay not in a flat 442 more like a 312 but he was 100% brought in to play midfield not a forward in a role in front of the midfield behind the forwards

J-Rod Brownhill McNeil
............Vydra...............
Barnes ............Wood

A role Westwood could not play

.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:47 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm
Vydra was brought in for the midfield okay not in a flat 442 more like a 312 but he was 100% brought in to play midfield not a forward in a role in front of the midfield behind the forwards

J-Rod Brownhill McNeil
............Vydra...............
Barnes ............Wood

A role Westwood could not play

Vydra isn't a midfielder. And I'd be sure he wasn't brought in for midfield.

Dropping back at times to collect the ball from midfield, sure.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:51 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm
Vydra was brought in for the midfield okay not in a flat 442 more like a 312 but he was 100% brought in to play midfield not a forward in a role in front of the midfield behind the forwards

J-Rod Brownhill McNeil
............Vydra...............
Barnes ............Wood

A role Westwood could not play

.

you will need more than 6 outfield players. Other teams have 10 most of the time

KateR · Post by **KateR** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:53 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:10 am
Chris Wilder will win MOTS,unless the Blades really fall away in the latter part of the season.

am of the same opinion, however if Liverpool carry on and don't lose then there is no way he will not get it, even with uddles of money that is a huge achievement

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:08 pm

Top scorer for the Mags Jonjo Shelvey is available for selection. With five goals so far, he is ahead of seven players on two goals apiece.

£60 million worth Joelinton & Alison have three between them. That fat cockney Ashley needs to get his wallet out and buy some players.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:11 pm

I know I’m placing myself as a hostage to fortune by saying this, but their blunt strike force against our tight defence can not be filling their fans with much hope. We’re going to have to play particularly below our current standards, and they well above theirs in order for them to score. Either that or a Worldie is going to be scored against us.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:22 pm

Lord Beamish wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:11 pm
I know I’m placing myself as a hostage to fortune by saying this, but their blunt strike force against our tight defence can not be filling their fans with much hope. We’re going to have to play particularly below our current standards, and they well above theirs in order for them to score. Either that or a Worldie is going to be scored against us.

Steady on Beamish, with talk like that you'll find yourself on t'Turf next week.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:23 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:27 am
My team when all fit maybe for next season would be

Pope

*New* Tarks Mee Taylor

J-Rod Brownhill Vydra McNeil

Barnes Wood

Bonkers

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:24 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm
Vydra was brought in for the midfield okay not in a flat 442 more like a 312 but he was 100% brought in to play midfield not a forward in a role in front of the midfield behind the forwards

J-Rod Brownhill McNeil
............Vydra...............
Barnes ............Wood

A role Westwood could not play

.

Absolutely bonkers.

Frenchclaret · Post by **Frenchclaret** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:35 pm

ClaretMov wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:33 pm
Vydra was brought in for the midfield okay not in a flat 442 more like a 312 but he was 100% brought in to play midfield not a forward in a role in front of the midfield behind the forwards

J-Rod Brownhill McNeil
............Vydra...............
Barnes ............Wood

A role Westwood could not play

.

No, but Rodrigues could. However, Vydra was not bought as a midfielder - more goals than anyone else in the Championship suggests to me we bought him as a striker. Obviously, he was never going to lead the line as his size prohibits that but don’t suggest we needed him as a midfielder. He is a second striker, playing up front but behind a larger centre forward.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:55 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:22 pm
Steady on Beamish, with talk like that you'll find yourself on t'Turf next week.

Probably not. Maybe next season.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:09 pm

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm
A pity we didn't get enough tickets, I am in with the Newcastle fans.

got a over 65 ticket in the away section up for grabs you can change it at the ground for a fee

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Feb 28, 2020 9:14 pm

KateR wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:53 pm
am of the same opinion, however if Liverpool carry on and don't lose then there is no way he will not get it, even with uddles of money that is a huge achievement

I beg to Differ... Klopp by a country mile. And off topic we will finish above Sheffield utd.