French leagues

[Spijed]

Why are the French trying to get other leagues to end straight away when it's got nothing to do with them?

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... t-restart/

[tiger76]

PSG have been confirmed as champions.

Still to be decided re teams in relegation places.

Easy enough to give PSG the title,they're miles clear,and have a game in hand,plus it doesn't disrupt the league,much harder to decide the relegation slots.

It's like the PL declaring Liverpool champions,or the SPFL declaring Celtic champions,which i suspect will happen in the coming weeks,if no restarts possible,how you decide who go's down,or even if anybody go's down or up,is the much harder to answer,whatever choice is made some clubs are going to feel aggrieved.

I'm just 1)i don't have to make that decision,and 2)we hit that purple patch when we did.

[Spijed]

Why are they getting involved?

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... t-restart/

[martin_p]

I guess if leagues finish as normal in other UEFA countries and qualification for next year’s European competitions is based on league position as usual then French clubs that just missed out on qualification might consider suing the french FA or government.

[Darthlaw]

Probably trying to get a universal shutdown of football so they can negotiate with FIFA to suspend player pay without having a free for all with players leaving left right and centre.

[Paul Waine]

Hmm, Germany taking a decision to re-start football and France taking the opposite decision....

What should England do?

French government lobbying partners so that Europe’s other top 5 leagues’ seasons do not restart

Le Parisien report this evening that French President Emmanuel Macron does not want professional football to return for the end of 2019/20 seasons in Spain, Italy, Germany and England following the French government’s decision to block Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 from returning until earliest in August.
As it stands, only three major leagues have decided not to finish their 2019/20 campaigns: the Netherlands, Belgium and France.

Roxana Maracineanu, Minister for Sports in France, has begun bilateral talks with European partners to implore them to take the same action as the French government did on Tuesday.

She has already spoken with Italian and German partners and is due to speak with the Spanish Minister for Sports tomorrow. Certain sources claim that Macron himself has made phone calls for this to occur, although the French government has moved to deny these claims to the newspaper in question.

These bilateral talks appear to be having an impact, if one is to listen to Vincenzo Spadafora, the Italian Minister for Sports, who indicated on Wednesday: “The decisions that are in the process of being taken in other countries, like in France, could push Italy to follow this position, which could then become a European position.”

On Friday, Italian footballing bodies will have further discussions. On Thursday, Angela Merkel is expected to provide more details on the future of the 2019/20 Bundesliga season.

[ClaretTony]

French have awarded the title to PSG

[Vino blanco]

Cheese eating surrender monkeys.

[Elizabeth]

The French have now made decisions on promotion and relegation.
Might make the current PL teams intent on spoiling a return to football in this country think carefully

[Firthy]

The French have now made decisions on promotion and relegation.
Might make the current PL teams intent on spoiling a return to football in this country think carefully

Bit unfortunate on 3rd and 4th place teams in Ligue 2. Only 1 and 2 points from automatic promotion and in much better form than the top 2 who have been promoted. Not sure I agree with this when the season is incomplete. IMO if they cancel the season it should just be voided.

Imagine if we did the same and Villa went down 2 pts behind with a game in hand and Bournemouth on a a goal difference of 1.

[Elizabeth]

I know, that is the predicament that some of the PL clubs are in and why I hope this talk of the bottom 6 holding the power is nonsense

[Woonderbah]

French football is even more predictable than Scotland.
They could award PSG the league for the next five years and save everyone the boredom.

[ChorltonCharlie]

I know, that is the predicament that some of the PL clubs are in and why I hope this talk of the bottom 6 holding the power is nonsense

Who said the bottom 6 hold all the power? They all do, but if those 6 get together they only need one other club to be a spanner in the works to any decisions for taking the season forward.

https://www.premierleague.com/about

[Elizabeth]

Of course they don't hold the power, that what I'm saying. Any suggestion that these bottom 6 PL clubs will vote en bloc is in my opinion wide of the mark but let's see.
We were told that the clubs would likely go for a season completion date of 30th June, based on a Guardian article, before the last PL meeting which didn't materialise. It's nothing more than conjecture.

[Firthy]

Of course they don't hold the power, that what I'm saying. Any suggestion that these bottom 6 PL clubs will vote en bloc is in my opinion wide of the mark but let's see

They might not vote en bloc but if there's an option to void the season, you can guarantee that the clubs in or near the relegation places will vote for that which does mean they have the power to affect the final outcome.

[Elizabeth]

If an option to void the season comes from any meeting of the PL teams it will be a massive change of direction considering their stated commitment to end the season.I will add to the bold statements I see and say voiding of the season will be as a result of government and medical intervention.
If it did come to that kind of vote would all the bottom 6 stick together when they may be laying themselves open to the league determining who goes down. Or would the bottom 3/4 want the season to continue so they can determine relegation on the field?
Maybe when people talk about voiding, they mean the PL clubs will vote in a way that last season is forgotten, it never existed, and everyone starts again next season. That would be a dangerous precedent surely for every club, including the bottom 6. Have the countries that have finished their seasons voided, I think their leagues have determined relegation

[ChorltonCharlie]

If an option to void the season comes from any meeting of the PL teams it will be a massive change of direction considering their stated commitment to end the season.I will add to the bold statements I see and say voiding of the season will be as a result of government and medical intervention.
If it did come to that kind of vote would all the bottom 6 stick together when they may be laying themselves open to the league determining who goes down. Or would the bottom 3/4 want the season to continue so they can determine relegation on the field?
Maybe when people talk about voiding, they mean the PL clubs will vote in a way that last season is forgotten, it never existed, and everyone starts again next season. That would be a dangerous precedent surely for every club, including the bottom 6. Have the countries that have finished their seasons voided, I think their leagues have determined relegation

The clubs are the league. The executives will guide and offer advice, but they don't make the big decisions. Most the direction you're on about is coming from those execs. There's been a lot in the media that some of the clubs aren't happy with things being suggested. The talks they are having at the moment is to try and reach consensus about how they go forward. They don't expect any decisions today, but they will discuss things like where will games be played if behind closed doors. If 7 of the clubs say they aren't prepared to play at a neutral venue, it's then a non-starter.

You'd have be very naive to think that the bottom 6 won't have come to the conclusion in the last 6 weeks that a complete void of the season is best for them. For clubs like Burnley, they'll be more worried about the money they lose and will want to continue. Liverpool will also want to continue, whilst being sensitive to taking a lot of flak if thousands celebrate the title outside Anfield. It's the rest of the Big 6 and Leicester who will make the difference, but they can only really decide once they come to an agreement on how Champions League places will be determined. Which is why when and if the PL get to the vote, they'll all want to know exactly what they're voting for.

[Elizabeth]

What is naive is making bold statements based on what people read in the papers

[Spijed]

Starting to get nasty in France with talk of legal action by some clubs adversely affected:

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... t-then-go/

[agreenwood]

I think you have to commit to completing a season and being realistic about how long that might take or you void it completely.

The end the season early and decide on PPG isn’t a go-er in my view. Unless you’ve played all the teams twice, it’s just not fair. What if PPG had you marginally in first place but your run-in was much more difficult than the teams in touching distance?

[ChorltonCharlie]

What is naive is making bold statements based on what people read in the papers

You maybe want to take note of that yourself.

[Elizabeth]

You came into my mind after your bold statement on the eve of the last PL meeting two weeks ago that proved to be wide of the mark.
I could not have made myself any clearer on this thread, and perhaps others , that the bottom 6 can think what they want about voiding the league, I don't think it will matter.
I think they might wriggle on the hook and put up objections to suggestions but I don't think they will all stick together in a fashion that the only solution will be to void the season.

[ChorltonCharlie]

You came into my mind after your bold statement on the eve of the last PL meeting two weeks ago that proved to be wide of the mark.
I could not have made myself any clearer on this thread, and perhaps others , that the bottom 6 can think what they want about voiding the league, I don't think it will matter.
I think they might wriggle on the hook and put up objections to suggestions but I don't think they will all stick together in a fashion that the only solution will be to void the season.

Go on then, run off and find me a quote of a bold statement I made a couple of weeks ago that was wide of the mark.

[Elizabeth]

I knew that was coming, take a look at the 'Current season, void or continue' thread, your comment dated 16/4 with link attached from the Guardian.
It's the post below the post you call out another poster for stupid remarks if that will help.
There, I've played your game but your next retort I will treat like other posters treat those who want the last word and will post anything to support their well worn agenda

[ChorltonCharlie]

Oh, so you mean this one... "Also it looks like the PL are going to agree 30th June as an absolute end date for this season."

I've used words like "looks like" not "will" and there's a link to the source. Hardly a bold statement.

Played my game indeed.

[tiger76]

Amiens not happy at the season being cancelled,this will be multiplied ten fold at PL level.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52535393