The Bud Fight, sorry Presidential Debate

[RingoMcCartney]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47934.html

Ex Obama staffer under fire for wishing death on Trump after coronavirus diagnosis

A former staff member of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said on Friday she hoped Donald Trump dies following his positive diagnosis of Covid-19.

In a now-deleted tweet, Zara Rahim used star emojis to highlight her position to the 37,000 followers of her verified account.

"It's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but, I hope he dies," she said.

While her account was locked to private by Friday morning, multiple media outlets reported that Ms Rahim subsequently posted a smiling selfie with the caption: "This f***ing rules".


https://au.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/i-hop ... 02463.html

Another tweet that is still live features a smiling selfie with the caption: “This f***ing rules”.

We saw the same reaction from some of the deplorables on the left, in this country , when Boris was taken into intensive care.

[RingoMcCartney]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/dom ... e-22793272

Dominic West sparked uproar on Good Morning Britain after claiming he 'leapt for joy' when Donald Trump tested positive for Covid-19

Kate Garraway has revealed actor Dominic West reached out to her, after his comments about US President Donald Trump sparked outrage on Good Morning Britain on Friday,

Following Trump testing positive for coronavirus, viewers slammed the actor over his remarks - especially because Kate Garraway was hosting the interview.


Viewers blasted Dominic for saying what he said in front of Kate, and now she has confessed the backlash led to the actor reaching out to her in private.

[PeterWilton]

Didn't Gavin McInnes once shove a butt plug up his arse live on his show? To own the libs.

[PeterWilton]

I remember when Donald Trump thought it was hilarious when his political opponents contracted a deadly illness. Suddenly his supporters are really upset when he receives the same treatment.

[Spijed]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 47934.html

Ex Obama staffer under fire for wishing death on Trump after coronavirus diagnosis

A former staff member of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton said on Friday she hoped Donald Trump dies following his positive diagnosis of Covid-19.

In a now-deleted tweet, Zara Rahim used star emojis to highlight her position to the 37,000 followers of her verified account.

"It's been against my moral identity to tweet this for the past four years, but, I hope he dies," she said.

While her account was locked to private by Friday morning, multiple media outlets reported that Ms Rahim subsequently posted a smiling selfie with the caption: "This f***ing rules".


https://au.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/i-hop ... 02463.html

Another tweet that is still live features a smiling selfie with the caption: “This f***ing rules”.

We saw the same reaction from some of the deplorables on the left, in this country , when Boris was taken into intensive care.

Donald Trump mocks Hillary Clinton over her pneumonia outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT-LfVlTE94

[CrosspoolClarets]

What’s going to be quite interesting for the next month is that Trump now has no choice but to play the card “we are freedom loving Americans, we can’t let Covid dictate our lives, take it on like I did, and win”.

It’s the only way he can justify the death toll and the approach taken. Otherwise, Biden beats him hands down on Covid approach (and Covid will now dominate the campaign inevitably).

The other interesting thing to keep an eye on is that new infections in the US are not now accelerating like they are in Europe. We’ll see how that affects things.

Prediction - Biden to win, but I’m not putting money on it.

[martin_p]

Donald Trump mocks Hillary Clinton over her pneumonia outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT-LfVlTE94

Wrongo is a proponent of ‘live by the sword, die by the sword’, he mentioned it a few days ago with respect to the SNP MP who had traveled by train with the virus after calling for Cummings to be sacked. So on that basis he’ll understand entirely why Trump and his supporters shouldn’t have a problem with him being mocked (stopping short of death wishes).

[PeterWilton]

What’s going to be quite interesting for the next month is that Trump now has no choice but to play the card “we are freedom loving Americans, we can’t let Covid dictate our lives, take it on like I did, and win”.

It’s the only way he can justify the death toll and the approach taken. Otherwise, Biden beats him hands down on Covid approach (and Covid will now dominate the campaign inevitably).

The other interesting thing to keep an eye on is that new infections in the US are not now accelerating like they are in Europe. We’ll see how that affects things.

Prediction - Biden to win, but I’m not putting money on it.

They're not accelerating because testing is limited.
Test positivity in the US is at about 5% compared to about 3% in the EU.

[RingoMcCartney]

Wrongo is a proponent of ‘live by the sword, die by the sword’, he mentioned it a few days ago with respect to the SNP MP who had traveled by train with the virus after calling for Cummings to be sacked. So on that basis he’ll understand entirely why Trump and his supporters shouldn’t have a problem with him being mocked (stopping short of death wishes).

A feeble attempt at drawing comparisons Marty.

Where does Trump say he "jumped for joy" at hearing Killary being ill?

Where does he say " its against my mortality, but I hope she dies."?

He doesn't. Just feeble.

[RingoMcCartney]

Donald Trump mocks Hillary Clinton over her pneumonia outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT-LfVlTE94

See above.

[martin_p]

A feeble attempt at drawing comparisons Marty.

Where does Trump say he "jumped for joy" at hearing Killary being ill?

Where does he say " its against my mortality, but I hope she dies."?

He doesn't. Just feeble.

Where did I compare death wishes (I explicitly excluded them)?

[PeterWilton]

A feeble attempt at drawing comparisons Marty.

Where does Trump say he "jumped for joy" at hearing Killary being ill?

Where does he say " its against my mortality, but I hope she dies."?

He doesn't. Just feeble.

I remember when Trump encouraged the 2nd amendment people to assassinate her. That was funny, wasn't it?

[HahaYeah]

Trump didn't know what was wrong with Killary Clinton at the time, it was the subject of much speculation what her BIZZARRE behaviour was all about.

The Truth About Hillary's Bizarre Behavior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRW ... e=emb_logo

[HahaYeah]

I remember when Trump encouraged the 2nd amendment people to assassinate her. That was funny, wasn't it?

More lefty lies.

[RingoMcCartney]

Where did I compare death wishes (I explicitly excluded them)?

Where do I say you "compared death wishes!?" I said you attempted to "draw comparison"!

You attempt to draw comparisons and then attempt to deny you drew comparisons!



I know you'll be more than happy to argue the toss all day long. However, I'm not interested, but you're more than capable of doing it on your own. As your previous two,
meeting yourself coming back , replies to me, clearly prove!.


Be good.

[PeterWilton]

Trump didn't know what was wrong with Killary Clinton at the time, it was the subject of much speculation what her BIZZARRE behaviour was all about.

The Truth About Hillary's Bizarre Behavior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRW ... e=emb_logo

Paul Joseph Watson

What kind of person takes Paul Joseph Watson seriously?



Oh yeah. Nazis.

[PeterWilton]

BTW you two. If you want to pretend you're not Qanon nutcases you might want to stop using their language which is borne from their conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton has been having people assassinated. Fruitcakes.

[martin_p]

Where do I say you "compared death wishes!?" I said you attempted to "draw comparison"!

You attempt to draw comparisons and then attempt to deny you drew comparisons!



I know you'll be more than happy to argue the toss all day long. However, I'm not interested, but you're more than capable of doing it on your own. As your previous two,
meeting yourself coming back , replies to me, clearly prove!.


Be good.

Ok, if you’re not able to comprehend a post (previous form on this) then fine, but I don’t see Dominic West wishing Trump dead.

[RingoMcCartney]

LOS ANGELES: Militant antifa smashed windows in DTLA tonight.


https://mobile.twitter.com/TomasMorales ... 8400724997

"Its not an organisation, it's an idea." Jo Biden


Antifa-BLM rioters in Los Angeles tear down a fence and burn a US flag tonight. Video by @FromKalen


https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/st ... 2636802048


At a conservative protest, a woman of color was clutching a US flag, members of antifa were not pleased: .@MrAndyNgo

: "She refused to let go & they pulled her to ground by her hair."

https://mobile.twitter.com/dcexaminer/s ... 8596944905

"Antifa is not an organisation, it's an idea" Jo Biden

[PeterWilton]

I see Ringo's still spreading fascist propaganda, and pretending that minor crimes, like smashing windows, is terrorism.

Still waiting on you telling me who the leader of Antifa is, Ringo.

[PeterWilton]

Violent antifa terrorist attacks innocent Trump supporter. Colourised.

[aggi]

Does anyone know what point Ringo is trying to make here? Is he trying to suggest that everyone with some some kind of factor in common is an organisation and they all act the same?

I wonder if Ringo reads England fans smash up ambulance and wreck bus stop during delirious celebrations after Sweden win and thinks that all England fans are part of an organisation who smash up ambulances?

(Apologies for the lack of right-wing twitter link) https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 37026.html

[PeterWilton]

Anyway, back on topic...

The debate. It looks like Trump is losing even more ground in the polls (cue expected retort) and is is down 14 and 16 points in two polls conducted entirely after the debate.

Lol.

He has to steal it to win it.

[PeterWilton]

Does anyone know what point Ringo is trying to make here? Is he trying to suggest that everyone with some some kind of factor in common is an organisation and they all act the same?

I wonder if Ringo reads England fans smash up ambulance and wreck bus stop during delirious celebrations after Sweden win and thinks that all England fans are part of an organisation who smash up ambulances?

(Apologies for the lack of right-wing twitter link) https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 37026.html

No no no. Only lefties and black people. When anyone else does it it's "oh, that's just one person" or something like that.

He's equating smashing windows with police shooting people in the back half a dozen times, and he's doing it deliberately. Possibly because the people being shot or killed aren't really people to him.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Definitely not turtle

[GandalfsBeard]

Ringo searching for his next antifa link to post

[RingoMcCartney]

I see Ringo's still spreading fascist propaganda, and pretending that minor crimes, like smashing windows, is terrorism.

Still waiting on you telling me who the leader of Antifa is, Ringo.

These "minor crimes, like smashing windows" and grabbing a black woman by her hair and throwing her to the floor. It must be a figment of your imagination.

After all, an "idea" cannot possibly commit " minor crimes, like smashing windows" and grab a black woman by her hair and throwing her to the floor, can it!?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Sure he’s got nothing to worry about.

[martin_p]

These "minor crimes, like smashing windows" and grabbing a black woman by her hair and throwing her to the floor. It must be a figment of your imagination.

After all, an "idea" cannot possibly commit " minor crimes, like smashing windows" and grab a black woman by her hair and throwing her to the floor, can it!?

So racist crimes are committed by an organisation are they?

[CrosspoolClarets]

They're not accelerating because testing is limited.
Test positivity in the US is at about 5% compared to about 3% in the EU.

That stat is a double edged sword - our highest in the world testing rate per 100,000 people will lead to a lower incidence %, the real figure of numbers infected per 100,000 is of course unknown, and can only be estimated based on data.

I believe the US rate (though atrocious) is starting to stabilise whereas in Europe it is shooting up. My point is that all Trump needs is momentum, and he will carry this into a message on election day that it is working - he may even claim a herd mentality strategy was his idea all along, and 2021 will be bright.

All bullocks of course, but he has a chance to win if the infection momentum goes his way.

[PeterWilton]

So racist crimes are committed by an organisation are they?

How much you wanna bet that when the police kill unarmed people, or beat them half to death, Ringo will be one of those people who say "oh, it's just a few bad apples" and not a culture among the police?

I wonder if he's ever posted about police brutality let alone condemned it.

[RingoMcCartney]

Does anyone know what point Ringo is trying to make here? Is he trying to suggest that everyone with some some kind of factor in common is an organisation and they all act the same?

I wonder if Ringo reads England fans smash up ambulance and wreck bus stop during delirious celebrations after Sweden win and thinks that all England fans are part of an organisation who smash up ambulances?

(Apologies for the lack of right-wing twitter link) https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 37026.html

Classic tactic of the left. Label something "far right" and immediately reassure yourself that the content lacks any credibility whatsoever!

Yep! All those "peaceful protesters" are actors. All those whose business have been smashed are stooges of Donald Trump. The black woman grabbed by her hair and thrown to the ground was a "racist" who deserved it, or summat!


Dismissively label it "far right" and you can simply adopt the, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil, approach! That's the spirit aggi!

Not far right. Just, right so far.

[RingoMcCartney]

So racist crimes are committed by an organisation are they?

If an organisation is institutionally racist. Its feasibile , yes.

[Burnley Ace]

Classic tactic of the left. Label something "far right" and immediately reassure yourself that the content lacks any credibility whatsoever!

Yep! All those "peaceful protesters" are actors. All those whose business have been smashed are stooges of Donald Trump. The black woman grabbed by her hair and thrown to the ground was a "racist" who deserved it, or summat!


Dismissively label it "far right" and you can simply adopt the, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil, approach! That's the spirit aggi!

Not far right. Just, right so far.

Classic tactic of the right - completely ignore the question. Perhaps Ringo would be more comfortable with the binary yes or no format - let’s try

Ringo - if a Burnley fan attacks an away fan, are all Burnley fans violent? yes or no

[martin_p]

If an organisation is institutionally racist. Its feasibile , yes.

But racism is an ‘idea’ not an organisation right? It’s the organisation that ‘adopts’ the idea. No one would ever claim racism is an organisation.

[PeterWilton]

But racism is an ‘idea’ not an organisation right? It’s the organisation that ‘adopts’ the idea. No one would ever claim racism is an organisation.

The far right-wing is working on it.

[PeterWilton]

Classic tactic of the right - completely ignore the question. Perhaps Ringo would be more comfortable with the binary yes or no format - let’s try

Ringo - if a Burnley fan attacks an away fan, are all Burnley fans violent? yes or no

Even better:

If a Burnley fan attacks an away fan, is Burnley FC a violent organisation?

[aggi]

Classic tactic of the left. Label something "far right" and immediately reassure yourself that the content lacks any credibility whatsoever!

Yep! All those "peaceful protesters" are actors. All those whose business have been smashed are stooges of Donald Trump. The black woman grabbed by her hair and thrown to the ground was a "racist" who deserved it, or summat!


Dismissively label it "far right" and you can simply adopt the, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil, approach! That's the spirit aggi!

Not far right. Just, right so far.

Classic tactic of Ringo, make something up and respond to that to avoid answering a question.

There's not a single reference to far-right in my post, nothing about the links lacking credibility or whatever your paranoid ramblings are of actors and stooges. I do wonder why you lie so much, are you really so deluded that you believe your own bullshit or are you just embarrassed that you don't understand other people's posts and make things up to cover?

[aggi]

But racism is an ‘idea’ not an organisation right? It’s the organisation that ‘adopts’ the idea. No one would ever claim racism is an organisation.

Well, you say nobody ...

[Bordeauxclaret]

I suspect we’ll see a Ringsy attempt to get the thread pulled after he’s dug his hole a little deeper

[RingoMcCartney]

But racism is an ‘idea’ not an organisation right? It’s the organisation that ‘adopts’ the idea. No one would ever claim racism is an organisation.

You are talking in riddles Marty!!

What the hell are you on about! Who " claimed racism is an organisation." Not me.

You've lost it sunshine.

I've shown the violence and bloodshed isn't being perpetrated by an "idea" , as Jo Biden claimed. Its organised by far left thugs.

So racist crimes are committed by an organisation are they?

I gave you a straight forward answer." Yes, if an organisation is institutionally racist. "

You may have heard of the Labour Party. They're currently being investigated by the ECHR for anti semitism. If found guilty that would be racist crimes committed by an organisation.

Hope that helps to clarify.

[RingoMcCartney]

Classic tactic of Ringo, make something up and respond to that to avoid answering a question.

There's not a single reference to far-right in my post, nothing about the links lacking credibility or whatever your paranoid ramblings are of actors and stooges. I do wonder why you lie so much, are you really so deluded that you believe your own bullshit or are you just embarrassed that you don't understand other people's posts and make things up to cover?

Classic aggi!!

"Far right" "rightwing" hair splitting.

Keep up the 3 wise monkeys approach though! Apparently, ignorance is bliss.

[martin_p]

You are talking in riddles Marty!!

What the hell are you on about! Who " claimed racism is an organisation." Not me.

You've lost it sunshine.

I've shown the violence and bloodshed isn't being perpetrated by an "idea" , as Jo Biden claimed. Its organised by far left thugs.



I gave you a straight forward answer." Yes, if an organisation is institutionally racist. "

You may have heard of the Labour Party. They're currently being investigated by the ECHR for anti semitism. If found guilty that would be racist crimes committed by an organisation.

Hope that helps to clarify.

It helps to clarify you haven’t understood a word I’ve said thanks.

Joe Biden claimed (as you keep posting) that anti-facism is an idea not an organisation, which is true. What you can’t seem to get your head round is that ideas ‘inspire’ people to do things, whether good or bad, and aren’t in of themselves ‘organisations’.

[RingoMcCartney]

Even better:

If a Burnley fan attacks an away fan, is Burnley FC a violent organisation?

If he was in the Suicide Squad , and he puts someone in A and E, was it just, "an idea" that attacked him!

According to Jo Biden, it is!

[aggi]

Classic aggi!!

"Far right" "rightwing" hair splitting.

Keep up the 3 wise monkeys approach though! Apparently, ignorance is bliss.

That's a very big hair.

Looks like the Tories are a far right organisation now according to Ringo. The Daily Mail, the Spectator, the Telegraph, all far right media. That talk radio that Ringo loves, owned by the far right. In fact, given that the Tories won in the last election I suppose we have to say that the UK is now a far right country.

Sorry about that people but Ringo has spoken.

[RingoMcCartney]

It helps to clarify you haven’t understood a word I’ve said thanks.

Joe Biden claimed (as you keep posting) that anti-facism is an idea not an organisation, which is true. What you can’t seem to get your head round is that ideas ‘inspire’ people to do things, whether good or bad, and aren’t in of themselves ‘organisations’.

If it helps, it obvious that you
haven’t understood a word youve said!

So racist crimes are committed by an organisation are they?

I gave you a straight forward answer." Yes, if an organisation is institutionally racist. "

See the Labour Party, ECHR and antisemitism.

As for your explanation of what Jo Biden said.

These groups of people who are committing arson, smashing up business, attacking people. They just spontaneously meet. By pure coincidence. Sporadic. Uncoordinated. Completely out of the blue. !!!!??? And in some cities it happens for months on end!!

[Burnley Ace]

I gave you a straight forward answer." Yes, if an organisation is institutionally racist. "

You may have heard of the Labour Party. They're currently being investigated by the ECHR for anti semitism. If found guilty that would be racist crimes committed by an organisation.

Would that mean that every Labour Party member is racist? - yes or no

[RingoMcCartney]

Overnight on 4–5 Oct., BLM-antifa rioters in Portland marched around downtown in more criminal protests that began in late May. They vandalized the new $324m courthouse & other buildings. 6 were arrested. #PortlandRiots #antifa https://portlandoregon.gov/police/news/ ... ?id=261256

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/st ... 6767444997


Completely impromptu!!

Just an ",idea". According to the , not so, wise monkeys!

[RingoMcCartney]

Would that mean that every Labour Party member is racist? - yes or no

No.

However , I wasnt asked if an individual acts criminally it means the organisation to which he belongs is criminal. You know that.

I was asked.

"So racist crimes are committed by an organisation are they?"

And you already know my answer to that question.


This should clarify.

Even better:

If a Burnley fan attacks an away fan, is Burnley FC a violent organisation?

If he was in the Suicide Squad , and he puts someone in A and E, was it just, "an idea" that attacked him!

According to Jo Biden, it is!

[martin_p]

As for your explanation of what Jo Biden said.

These groups of people who are committing arson, smashing up business, attacking people. They just spontaneously meet. By pure coincidence. Sporadic. Uncoordinated. Completely out of the blue. !!!!??? And in some cities it happens for months on end!!

Ah I see, you’re confused because the word organisation is a homonym.