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TomtheClaret
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by TomtheClaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:06 pm
Saw a bit of verbal handbags at the end. But a Villa fan, saying had to be separated in tunnel.
Bunch of prima donners on the site, banned me when I suggested it was down to Grealish diving!

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by Wokingclaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:09 pm
Simple, their players don't go up our tunnel

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by MT03ALG » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:10 pm
My guess is that Ian Woan was amazed by some of the antics of Grealish on the pitch and some of his comments after the final whistle. Ian seemed bemused and went off shaking his head. Not sure about the tunnel bit, I thought these days teams have separate tunnels....
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by TomtheClaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:16 pm
I thought same about tunnel. They made Grealish out to be a hero who wanted to "Have it out" with Woan. Looked like Grealish pushed Westwood over in closing stages.
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by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:17 pm
Considering he does 30 plus rolls when he is clipped around the legs makes you wonder how he would be getting a crack on his jaw
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by Bosscat » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:17 pm
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by evensteadiereddie » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:18 pm
It looked to me like Grealish was vehemently denying being a diva, a cheat and a complete wuss.
Which is odd so well done, Mr. Woan.
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by Dyched » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:19 pm
He was born in 1995, so technically he’s a post madonna.
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by 4:20 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:35 pm
Falling over and rolling around looks great on camera, especially when you've got a pair of tantastic legs to show off.
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by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:43 pm
MT03ALG wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:10 pm
My guess is that Ian Woan was amazed by some of the antics of Grealish on the pitch and some of his comments after the final whistle. Ian seemed bemused and went off shaking his head. Not sure about the tunnel bit, I thought these days teams have separate tunnels....
As much as I don't like Grealish, I don't think he did much wrong yesterday. One bit of show boating in the first half when they were one-mile up perhaps.
Maybe Woan just told him he's a **** Dwight McNeil.
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by BenWickes » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
Cultured midfielder was Woan at Forest. As you'd expect, Clough wouldn't have stood for Grealish's antics and was probably pointing out there's no need for it.
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by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
It was nothing more the high quality Sh!thousing. End as you've started. I love it when we completely get under the skin of everything about our opponents
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by Peter Loo » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:49 pm
I never have appreciated arrogance in any player and Grealish is no exception no matter how good people say he is.
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by Rowls » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:51 pm
If you're going to be arrogant you need to be careful how you do it.
After you've won is usually best. Grealish had a paddy at full time because his arrogance was premature and came back to bite him on his backside.
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by Socrates » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:21 pm
I thought we saw the best and worst of Grealish last night.
He was unplayable at times. Absolutely fantastic.
However .... it’s all about him. He often stands still demanding the ball, rarely runs into space, he plays where he wants and only really passes the ball when there is a 1-2 on. At 3-2 down he hogged the ball completely, dropping deeper and deeper to pick it up.
All the ability. Not a team player at all.
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by Bosscat » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:38 pm
Best thing about watching Grealish last night was seeing that inane grin (he kept flashing after his theatric falls etc) wiped of his smug gob at full time.
Fantastic footballer who like others does not need to fall over at the merest hint ... he would get far more respect if he did more of the blistering runs with the ball at his feet ... instead of falling over like a soft nelly

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by Pearcey » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:40 pm
The lads a moron. He’s also one of the best players in the premier IMO. I love watching him play unless it’s against us. Southgate should be building a team around him.
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by bodge » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:40 pm
Agreed, checking out his gurning swede at full time was a sweet moment.
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by Pearcey » Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:42 pm
bodge wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:40 pm
Agreed, checking out his gurning swede at full time was a sweet moment.
That was a nice moment to be fair. Enjoyed Lowts winding him up too.
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by Stanbill05 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:00 pm
Very easy to dislike especially the buying fouls, but what a player. Whether he ever reaches his full potential I’m not sure, but is not a million miles away from Ronaldo levels on his day
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by claretyke » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:11 pm
Spat his dummy out at the end of the game at Villa Park if i remember rightly
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by Bfc » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:14 pm
Reminds me of Ted McMinn, when he played for Derby, against us. I/we disliked his theatrical falls, when he was hardly touched and got up the noses of supporters. Yet when he signed for us, we loved it, especially at Wembley v Stockport.
Somehow I can't ever imagine Grealish wanting to sign for Burnley, later in his career.
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by Hedontplayforyou » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:20 pm
Grealish is blessed with amazing talent, it’s a massive shame that’s he’s such a **** on and off the pitch.
I’m not even sorry for the superlatives as he angers me every time I look at him.
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by Hibsclaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:20 pm
claretyke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:11 pm
Spat his dummy out at the end of the game at Villa Park if i remember rightly
True...his dummy is never in tbh
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by holdyourfire » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:30 pm
When a big club tempts him away,villa will drop like a stone.
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by Rileybobs » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:38 pm
claretyke wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:11 pm
Spat his dummy out at the end of the game at Villa Park if i remember rightly
He walked off the pitch without acknowledging any of our players and saying we were sh*t on that occasion didn’t he?
I expect he was making similar comments on the field last night, and probably why Lowton was prodding him and shaking his head.
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by Ashingtonclaret46 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:57 pm
Poor Jack. He has played against us 6 times now and only been on the winning side once and that was on 1 January 2020.
Good player but not as good as our team ethic when it comes to getting results.
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by SalisburyClaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:58 pm
Socrates wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:21 pm
I thought we saw the best and worst of Grealish last night.
He was unplayable at times. Absolutely fantastic.
However .... it’s all about him. He often stands still demanding the ball, rarely runs into space, he plays where he wants and only really passes the ball when there is a 1-2 on. At 3-2 down he hogged the ball completely, dropping deeper and deeper to pick it up.
All the ability. Not a team player at all.
Totally agree, has to be all about him. Slows the game down to his pace all the time
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by bf2k » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:02 pm
claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:17 pm
Considering he does 30 plus rolls when he is clipped around the legs makes you wonder how he would be getting a crack on his jaw

There’s enough pressure on intensive care beds at the moment but definitely needs investigating. The guys an absolute weapon
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by corporal jones » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:13 pm
why don't most of you lot just accept that if he played for us you would love it-he should be the first name on any England starting 11 and i would def play him before raheem sterling-arrogance never did a footballer any harm.
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by Tribesmen » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:14 pm
Hey when he left Ireland to become an England player did it for me , i could go on .
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by duncandisorderly » Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:48 pm
I don't think he's that good, he's just of a time. In 50 years time, Aston Villa may acknowledge him in the 50 best players to play for them this century, but he wouldn't feature in the leagues list.
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by BobHaidong » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:02 pm
From article above:
“ Ollie Watkins and Grealish had both seen goals cancelled out by Ben Mee and Dwight McNeil before Wood stooped to head home past Emiliano Martinez with 11 minutes left to play.”
What definition of stooped is this so called journalist using?
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by Sozturf7 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:27 pm
Possible meant "swooped"
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by Longsider » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:35 pm
Tribesmen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:14 pm
Hey when he left Ireland to become an England player did it for me , i could go on .
Yep. I'm English but I get that. Once you pin your colours to the mast you stick to it. It was an insult to Ireland in my book.
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by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:49 pm
corporal jones wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:13 pm
why don't most of you lot just accept that if he played for us you would love it-he should be the first name on any England starting 11 and i would def play him before raheem sterling-arrogance never did a footballer any harm.
Grealish is good but it’s a bit far fetched to say he’s better than Raheem Sterling, who has performed consistently at the very highest level for years now.
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by Belgianclaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:47 pm
Grealish was very good yesterday and has impressed me.
However, hf doesn’t seem to like us, as he was also cursing after their home game.
I wouldn’t hold it against him though, even if he had some words with Woan after the game. He’s a Villa player after all and it shows he’s a winner.
I still remember being proud of our hero Wade Elliot after ignoring the lying Scotsman after the game at Notlob


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by boatshed bill » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:49 pm
Grealish is good but it’s a bit far fetched to say he’s better than Raheem Sterling, who has performed consistently at the very highest level for years now.
Grealish is the best ball carrier, box to box, that I've ever seen in the English game.
although my memory is short.
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by Stayingup » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:54 pm
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:47 pm
It was nothing more the high quality Sh!thousing. End as you've started. I love it when we completely get under the skin of everything about our opponents
Oh yes and their fans.
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by Spijed » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:03 pm
boatshed bill wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:51 pm
Grealish is the best ball carrier, box to box, that I've ever seen in the English game.
although my memory is short.
Arguably the best player in the Prem at the moment
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by bobinho » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:08 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:49 pm
Grealish is good but it’s a bit far fetched to say he’s better than Raheem Sterling, who has performed consistently at the very highest level for years now.
Oh he’s better than sterling, and no mistake. He’s a real talent. With him and foden coming thru at the same time, the national side, if managed well, could be really really good. That’s the problem tho... he won’t be and he isn’t now, which is why he isnt quite the finished article. Could be an absolute great of the game. He’s really good.
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by Burnleyareback2 » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:23 pm
Huge talent and if he came through the ranks at Burnley and acted like he does there would be a lot of “real” claret tinted glasses.
However (!) he shows very little respect, he walks on pitches like TM and thinks he is a better person than our club. I’d like to see how he copes in a big club where there are few other egos
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by Rowls » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:26 pm
Spijed wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:03 pm
Arguably the best player in the Prem at the moment
Dwight McNeil, I think you'll find.
As good as Grealish is, he bears a lot of responsibility for their failure to beat us. You can't be the "best player in the Prem" if you're only inspiring your team to defeats.
He kept the ball far too long when they were searching for an equaliser and his positional play and tracking back was poor.
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by Willy » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:28 pm
Fantastic player.I never liked him because of his persona but changed my mind when he came to Turf Moor last season.
This season he's got even better and at times has been completely unplayable.
The way he plays is very unique and with the talent he has,he's every right to be arrogant ON the pitch.
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by IanMcL » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:29 pm
He is a superb individual player. He is improving his distribution and link play.
He is good to watch.
His brain is in his feet, so that makes the rest difficult.
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by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:29 pm
bobinho wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:08 pm
Oh he’s better than sterling, and no mistake. He’s a real talent. With him and foden coming thru at the same time, the national side, if managed well, could be really really good. That’s the problem tho... he won’t be and he isn’t now, which is why he isnt quite the finished article. Could be an absolute great of the game. He’s really good.
I don’t quite see it like that at this moment in time.
He was good in parts last season and has been very good for a lot of this season but he’s still playing the proverbial ‘big fish in a little pond’ act. Move to a title challenging club and consistently be one of their best players (ala Sterling) and I might change my mind. Hugely talented? No doubt. World class? Jury’s still out.
There’s only 9 month’s difference in age between Sterling and Grealish. Consider their respective CVs - Sterling’s - youngest ever Liverpool debut, world record transfer fee for a teenager, has won every domestic trophy and has been a pivotal player for a number of seasons of that record breaking team, a regular international footballer and one of the first names on the team sheet for club and country.
Grealish - Aston Villa captain, has had one and a half good seasons in the top flight (over half a season with no fans in attendance) and looks really good when he plays against us. Not yet an established international.
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by elwaclaret » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:49 pm
BurnleyFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:29 pm
I don’t quite see it like that at this moment in time.
He was good in parts last season and has been very good for a lot of this season but he’s still playing the proverbial ‘big fish in a little pond’ act. Move to a title challenging club and consistently be one of their best players (ala Sterling) and I might change my mind.
Hugely talented? No doubt. World class? Jury’s still out.
By your logic Pope, Tarks, Mee etc. Can only prove to be worthy of being world class if they leave Burnley. I disagree, if they are the right players, it matters not a jot if they are at bigger clubs. They get picked and prove it for their country that is the point. Trevor Brooking was world class playing second division for West Ham. No one doubted it or him.
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by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:53 pm
elwaclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:49 pm
By your logic Pope, Tarks, Mee etc. Can only prove to be worthy of being world class if they leave Burnley. I disagree, if they are the right players, it matters not a jot if they are at bigger clubs. They get picked and prove it for their country that is the point. Trevor Brooking was world class playing second division for West Ham. No one doubted it or him.
I think a goalkeeper can prove themselves worthy of being world class at a club like ours (FWIW, Nick Pope is world class).
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by basil6345789 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:13 am
Grealish should cut out all his arrogant smirking and chuckling, as though he's better than averyone else. Maybe he is but all that facial stuff is out of order.