Vydra

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:10 pm

I love what he offers. A completely different option to the rest of our strikers: genuine pace, movement, finds space well, and his hold up play and ball retention are outstanding for a smaller striker. Needs a goal, though. Snatching at chances at the moment. Requires a bit more composure, but his all-round game is excellent and he gets us playing better football.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:11 pm

Great footballer, great touch and vision.

Offers us so much more in the final 3rd, and deserved a goal today.
How he hasnt had a chance when you see when others go 3 and 4 games without contributing baffles me.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:11 pm

Prefeot wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:01 pm
Lowdown definitely mom .... Vydra was Vydra , not good enough at this level

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm

He just needs a goal, he was excellent again today

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm

Movement that we very rarely get from our other strikers which makes us less one dimensional . Lowton was good today too

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm

imagine having another player up top with the same movement, Brighton couldn't cope with Vydra up top on his own today

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm

Goodclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:06 pm
Vydra was absolutely brilliant today. His movement was excellent, some fantastic touches and link up play.

I'd stick with these two up top for the next 2 to 3 games.

Swap Barnes with Jay Rod and play with our 2 best forwards

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:13 pm

Prefeot wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:01 pm
Lowdown definitely mom .... Vydra was Vydra , not good enough at this level

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:14 pm

Brilliant movement, massively improved us second half. I’d have given MoM to Lowton, but Vyds a close second.

Doesn’t look so confident in front of goal. Needs a goal.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm

Not a regular goalscorer at this level, need too many chances. Therein lies the problem.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm

Vydra is better than Wood. Thanks for the signing Garlick.. Dyche just Signs us lumps like Jutkiewicz, Wood and Barnes

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm

Was a class above anything else we have in that area of the pitch today.

We have players who could learn a thing or two about holding the ball up and threading it through just by watching him today.

I’m not too worrried about him not actually getting a goal, we have two other strikers who get more than a good run at it without scoring.

We most certainly look more dangerous with him on the pitch... I think even SD will have noticed that. All we need to know is what “plan A” is....

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm

Right_winger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
Vydra is better than Wood. Thanks for the signing Garlick.. Dyche just Signs us lumps like Jutkiewicz, Wood and Barnes

You don’t half spout some shite.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm

When has Wood ever had a good a game as Vydra today, football wise?

Top performance, just needs that bit of luck now, but how good is it to see players linking up with each other?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:18 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
Not a regular goalscorer at this level, need too many chances. Therein lies the problem.

And you base that on what? His cameo appearances? His 90 mins today without a goal? I’m genuinely interested in how you have worked out his goals to chances record in comparison to the other three...

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:18 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
Not a regular goalscorer at this level, need too many chances. Therein lies the problem.

Not a regular starter, therein lies the problem.

If he started more, he'd settle down and make the most of his shots.

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:19 pm

I agree Vydra gives us more options and deserves to start right now ahead of Barnes and Jayrod

But his finishing is that of a championship striker. He takes too many touches. As an example when Cork passed to him on the edge of the six yard box he should have hit it first time. He gave the defender and the keeper enough time to close him down. Had he shot first time he would have either cleared the stand or scored. There were other examples

That’s why he is just good back up and not a regular starter

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:19 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
You don’t half spout some shite.

One of the worst this week is that

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:20 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
When has Wood ever had a good a game as Vydra today, football wise?

Top performance, just needs that bit of luck now, but how good is it to see players linking up with each other?

Yep, really good in that second half. He was excellent today.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:21 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
You don’t half spout some shite.

Says you who’s got his head so far up Dyches backside you even sound as deluded as him

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:21 pm

The trouble is that at this level chances have to be taken early, or clinically.

In the Championship, players have more time to shoot. That’s where the jury is out if Vyds is good enough.

But.....superb today

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:22 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
When has Wood ever had a good a game as Vydra today, football wise?

He’s a totally different player. If the question was when did Wood ever have as productive game as Vydra did today then you would only need to look as far back as his last game. In terms of who is easier on the eye then I think everyone knows that Vydra would take that accolade, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to goals and points.

So on that basis you may as well have asked when has Tarks had as good a game ‘football wise’.

This threads about Vydra - who had a very good game. Instead of just praising the player, why do some people feel the need to criticise our other players in doing so?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:23 pm

Looked good today, but it's a shame he can't finish anything.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:24 pm

Right_winger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:21 pm
Says you who’s got his head so far up Dyches backside you even sound as deluded as him

Would me having my head inside Sean’s anus make me sound like him?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:25 pm

Absolutely excellent today EXCEPT for getting that all important goal. I really felt for him, but his work rate is immense and with that amount of commitment he HAS to be a "Dyche type player". He definitely gives us something different.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:26 pm

Let’s hope Fulham lose

UTC

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:27 pm

Right_winger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
Vydra is better than Wood. Thanks for the signing Garlick.. Dyche just Signs us lumps like Jutkiewicz, Wood and Barnes

Ha ha, ha ha, ha ha and ha ha.

One of the funniest comments I've read.

Oh no, sorry, not funniest. Stupid. Yes, totally stupid.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:30 pm

He played very well today and his movement worried Brighton. Just wish he had more of a shot in him when he gets into some good positions.

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:31 pm

There's no doubt we are miles better to watch with Vyds on the pitch. Also it's no coincidence we also create more chances with him in the team

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:33 pm

Very good game today and improved our overall play but did take one too many touches in the box sometimes when should have shot. Wasn’t the only one though.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:36 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:31 pm
There's no doubt we are miles better to watch with Vyds on the pitch. Also it's no coincidence we also create more chances with him in the team

Or when we aren't playing the better sides in this League such as Chelsea or City. Didn't notice this effectiveness last Wednesday. He was excellent today until he got within scoring range - which is the opposite of what you want a striker to do.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:36 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:31 pm
Also it's no coincidence we also create more chances with him in the team

I think there definitely is a doubt. We didn’t create many chances against Man City or Chelsea for example. I think the opposition plays a large part in how many chances we create and I think the attitude and freedom of the players was probably the single biggest factor in the number of chances we created today. That’s not to undermine the large part that Vydra played in our performance today.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:41 pm

Right_winger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:21 pm
Says you who’s got his head so far up Dyches backside you even sound as deluded as him

The manager’s tweak of shape at half time almost won us the game today and enabled Vydra, JBG and McNeil to get more heavily involved and influence the game.

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:45 pm

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:36 pm
Or when we aren't playing the better sides in this League such as Chelsea or City. Didn't notice this effectiveness last Wednesday. He was excellent today until he got within scoring range - which is the opposite of what you want a striker to do.

We don't even try and attack man city and the Chelsea game was dire. We are better to watch with Vydra, his movement causes teams problems. Vydra gets into positions the others don't. The goals will come for him

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:48 pm

Just posted on another thread, thought he was terrific today.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:48 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:45 pm
We don't even try and attack man city and the Chelsea game was dire. We are better to watch with Vydra, his movement causes teams problems. Vydra gets into positions the others don't. The goals will come for him

Equally our other strikers get into positions that Vydra doesn’t. As was evidenced by 2 or 3 very good crosses in the first half which weren’t attacked.

We get it - you prefer Vydra - but to simplify it into a black and white issue is nonsensical. All of our strikers offer something a little different - and we’ve had more success with the other strikers than we have with Vydra. But right now he’s deserving of his shirt - it’s his opportunity to take.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:49 pm

Tall Paul wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:23 pm
Looked good today, but it's a shame he can't finish anything.

Along with Wood He couldn't finish his Dinner....

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:57 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:48 pm
Equally our other strikers get into positions that Vydra doesn’t. As was evidenced by 2 or 3 very good crosses in the first half which weren’t attacked.

We get it - you prefer Vydra - but to simplify it into a black and white issue is nonsensical. All of our strikers offer something a little different - and we’ve had more success with the other strikers than we have with Vydra. But right now he’s deserving of his shirt - it’s his opportunity to take.

Correct but Vydra is far better on the eye and ive not spoke to anyone who disagrees with that

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:57 pm

tim_noone wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:49 pm
Along with Wood He couldn't finish his Dinner....

I totally agree apart from all the goals his scored for us.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:58 pm

Excellent performance today!

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:59 pm

His movement is simply outstanding

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:00 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:57 pm
Correct but Vydra is far better on the eye and ive not spoke to anyone who disagrees with that

But just being better on the eye doesn't win you points? Would you prefer lots of games like today which are nice to watch or a very unpleasant, ugly, hard working 1 nil win, er, let's say over Liverpool which gets you 3 points? I think I know which result is the better one. And it's results that count.

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:02 pm

Goodclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:00 pm
But just being better on the eye doesn't win you points? Would you prefer lots of games like today which are nice to watch or a very unpleasant, ugly, hard working 1 nil win, er, let's say over Liverpool which gets you 3 points? I think I know which result is the better one. And it's results that count.

Correct me if I'm wrong but we got a point today?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:03 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:22 pm
He’s a totally different player. If the question was when did Wood ever have as productive game as Vydra did today then you would only need to look as far back as his last game. In terms of who is easier on the eye then I think everyone knows that Vydra would take that accolade, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to goals and points.

So on that basis you may as well have asked when has Tarks had as good a game ‘football wise’.

This threads about Vydra - who had a very good game. Instead of just praising the player, why do some people feel the need to criticise our other players in doing so?

Yeah, I got caught up with the silly billies criticising Vydra as they prefer Wood.

I actually don't mind Wood but would prefer him to come on for the last half hour to see if he can nick a goal.

DomBFC1882 · Post by **DomBFC1882** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:04 pm

Goodclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:00 pm
But just being better on the eye doesn't win you points? Would you prefer lots of games like today which are nice to watch or a very unpleasant, ugly, hard working 1 nil win, er, let's say over Liverpool which gets you 3 points? I think I know which result is the better one. And it's results that count.

Ps. Its about entertainment and id rather watch good football

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:09 pm

Biggest problem we had with Vydra today was he outpaced the Brighton defence, cut in behind them and had to try and find a pass back to the edge of the 18 yard box because we had no other striker bursting into the 6 yard box where they should be. Crying out for a quick striker to play alongside him

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:11 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:04 pm
Ps. Its about entertainment and id rather watch good football

Fair enough. I like us getting enough points to stay in the PL. Each to their own.

DuckworthsEA · Post by **DuckworthsEA** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:16 pm
When has Wood ever had a good a game as Vydra today, football wise?

Top performance, just needs that bit of luck now, but how good is it to see players linking up with each other?

The game that we last won. That would be a good starting point mate.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:13 pm

As Dom above
I was actually entertained by watching Vyds

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:14 pm

Goodclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:11 pm
Fair enough. I like us getting enough points to stay in the PL. Each to their own.

You're wasting your time on here with some people, they'd genuinely watch pretty football and get relegated like Bournemouth instead of being able to mix it up and stay in the PL.