Why the player boards are so important

[ClaretTony]

I always feel a real sense of pride when I see the player boards on the three stand walls at the Turf. We've still not heard anything from the club of their future but this photograph shows why they are so important. The copper on the pic is called John Pointer, a very proud son next to his dad.

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[Chester Perry]

I suspect that they will end up in a much revamped and larger fanzone facility at the Turf

[claretblue]

Ray Pointer:

my favourite player always from my first memory of the Clarets Hamburg - quarter final of European cup!

He scored 132 goals in 270 games for the Clarets and is Burnley’s second highest goalscorer of all-time.

3 international caps and 2 England goals

The player boards are magnificent and are admired by many!

[ClaretTony]

The player boards are magnificent and are admired by many!

Looks as though we might have a fight to keep them but they belong to Burnley FC Supporters Groups

[Stayingup]

Ray Pointer:

my favourite player always from my first memory of the Clarets Hamburg - quarter final of European cup!

He scored 132 goals in 270 games for the Clarets and is Burnley’s second highest goalscorer of all-time.

3 international caps and 2 England goals

The player boards are magnificent and are admired by many!

Run through a brick wall that lad would.

[Chester Perry]

Looks as though we might have a fight to keep them but they belong to Burnley FC Supporters Groups

probably something the club had forgotten until you reminded them, which is why I think they will end up in the fan zone

[ClaretTony]

probably something the club had forgotten until you reminded them, which is why I think they will end up in the fan zone

They won't end up anywhere other than where they are without our say so.

[claretblue]

Run through a brick wall that lad would.

Ray did actually that...see part of Tonys report of the FA Cup fourth round match at Turf Moor against Swansea Town!

'...Burnley supporters had a tremendous shock ahead of the game when despite Monday’s announcement that there would be no change in the side, Jimmy McIlroy was found not to be fully fit and In the first attack Ray Pointer risked injury in collision with the boundary wall as he tried to toe across a centre from the left...'

[Chester Perry]

They won't end up anywhere other than where they are without our say so.

The club can take them down and return them as they are on the club's property - I may have jumped a few steps in my conclusion, but it that is what the outcome looks like being given the renderings presented by the club (which include digital images of the legends)

[Red Fox Rocks Socks]

They won't end up anywhere other than where they are without our say so.

What sort of contract did you all sign?

[ClaretTony]

The club can take them down and return them as they are on the club's property - I may have jumped a few steps in my conclusion, but it that is what the outcome looks like being given the renderings presented by the club (which include digital images of the legends)

Yes they can take them down and return them. It will then be for us to decide what to do with them.

[DCWat]

If they’re digitally replaced, I’m actually quite for the idea (assuming it’s done right), despite the work that went into them.

The club really should be discussing this though.

[claretblue]

Yes they can take them down and return them. It will then be for us to decide what to do with them.

I'll buy Ray Pointers + plaque!

[arise_sir_charge]

They’d be fantastic as a feature of a much improved fanzone and surely that would be an adequate compromise for all involved.

[claretblue]

They’d be fantastic as a feature of a much improved fanzone and surely that would be an adequate compromise for all involved.

maybe locate them all on the railings opposite Bob Lord stand on Harry Potts Way...it would need to be approved by the Highways department but would look good for all those walking to the ground.
Away supporters would also see them on display!

[ecc]

I'm sorry but I'm not up to speed about why the club doesn't want them any longer.

[Rileybobs]

I guess a digital replacement would be good as fans would get to see all of the players on a slideshow as opposed to the limited number they may see on their approach to the turnstile. It would be nice to relocate them into the concourse or elsewhere if they are being removed though.

[ClaretTony]

The ones on the Longside have gone

[Alanstevensonsgloves]

As asked by ecc above, what is the clubs issue with them?

[wilks_bfc]

I guess a digital replacement would be good as fans would get to see all of the players on a slideshow as opposed to the limited number they may see on their approach to the turnstile. It would be nice to relocate them into the concourse or elsewhere if they are being removed though.

Moving them to a concourse would limit the number of people that see them even more

[Rileybobs]

Moving them to a concourse would limit the number of people that see them even more

I read someone say that they were being replaced by digital boards displaying the players. If this is the case they would be able to display the players on a loop.

[claretblue]

The ones on the Longside have gone

[ClaretTim]

I read someone say that they were being replaced by digital boards displaying the players. If this is the case they would be able to display the players on a loop.

or more likely...."being replaced by digital boards displaying the players and advertisements"

[Inchy]

They won't end up anywhere other than where they are without our say so.

Surely you donated them to the club, so the club own them?

[Bordeauxclaret]

I like the boards, they look good but the club will be able to move them or remove them completely as they see fit.

[wilks_bfc]

I read someone say that they were being replaced by digital boards displaying the players. If this is the case they would be able to display the players on a loop.

I think we’ve got crossed-wires

People are talking about the current boards that are up being removed, to be replaced with the digital boards, and where these would go

I thought you were saying the existing boards would go in the concourse for more people to see them

I agree that digital player boards in the concourse would get more people to see them, but a lot of time, effort & money was put into the existing ones that the club should not just disregard them without consulting the relevant groups

[ClaretTony]

I think we’ve got crossed-wires

People are talking about the current boards that are up being removed, to be replaced with the digital boards, and where these would go

I thought you were saying the existing boards would go in the concourse for more people to see them

I agree that digital player boards in the concourse would get more people to see them, but a lot of time, effort & money was put into the existing ones that the club should not just disregard them without consulting the relevant groups

We had to contact the club about the boards when we saw the artists impressions. We had heard nothing prior to that. That was on 12th May. We received a reply one day later saying it would be looked into and we'd get a further reply two days later. We are still waiting for that reply and last night we saw that the boards on the Longside stand were not there. They were on the Bob Lord but I don't know about the Jimmy Mac. It is total disregard for those who worked so hard to get those boards in place and for those who funded them.

[Rileybobs]

I think we’ve got crossed-wires

People are talking about the current boards that are up being removed, to be replaced with the digital boards, and where these would go

I thought you were saying the existing boards would go in the concourse for more people to see them

I agree that digital player boards in the concourse would get more people to see them, but a lot of time, effort & money was put into the existing ones that the club should not just disregard them without consulting the relevant groups

As I understand it, people are concerned that the Legend boards (which look great) that are located around the exterior of the stadium will be making way for new LED screens. On the club's website there are images of new LED screens displaying the legends in place of the existing ones. My point is that as these screens will be interactive, the images could be on a loop, which would mean that fans would be able to see all of the legends as a slideshow whilst they're stood in the turnstile queue, as opposed to the 2 or 3 that I, for example, see on the way to my seat.

I suggested that if the existing boards are to be removed, then it would be nice to see them elsewhere in the ground, and suggested the concourses as a potential new location.

[Quickenthetempo]

As I understand it, people are concerned that the Legend boards (which look great) that are located around the exterior of the stadium will be making way for new LED screens. On the club's website there are images of new LED screens displaying the legends in place of the existing ones. My point is that as these screens will be interactive, the images could be on a loop, which would mean that fans would be able to see all of the legends as a slideshow whilst they're stood in the turnstile queue, as opposed to the 2 or 3 that I, for example, see on the way to my seat.

I suggested that if the existing boards are to be removed, then it would be nice to see them elsewhere in the ground, and suggested the concourses as a potential new location.

The trouble with being on a loop is it's harder to get photographs like in the original post. By the time you get set it could have moved on to the next photo.

[ClaretTony]

As I understand it, people are concerned that the Legend boards (which look great) that are located around the exterior of the stadium will be making way for new LED screens. On the club's website there are images of new LED screens displaying the legends in place of the existing ones. My point is that as these screens will be interactive, the images could be on a loop, which would mean that fans would be able to see all of the legends as a slideshow whilst they're stood in the turnstile queue, as opposed to the 2 or 3 that I, for example, see on the way to my seat.

I suggested that if the existing boards are to be removed, then it would be nice to see them elsewhere in the ground, and suggested the concourses as a potential new location.

And do you not think it would be decent manners to tell the owners of the boards that they are being removed and even discuss a potential new home for them?

I saw people on Harry Potts Way last night having their pics taken alongside them - look at the pic of John Pointer at the top of this thread.

[Rileybobs]

And do you not think it would be decent manners to tell the owners of the boards that they are being removed and even discuss a potential new home for them?

I saw people on Harry Potts Way last night having their pics taken alongside them - look at the pic of John Pointer at the top of this thread.

Yes, course I do. I haven't commented on whether it is good form for the boards to be removed without contacting the donors. I've just suggested that if they are being removed, which appears to be the case, then it would be nice if the original images, which look really smart, could be displayed in digital form and potentially on a loop.

On my walk from the car to the ground I think I only pass 2 of the boards as I usually enter the JMU at the first available turnstile, so this could actually be a way for more people to see more of the legends which in my view would be a positive.

[ClaretTony]

Yes, course I do. I haven't commented on whether it is good form for the boards to be removed without contacting the donors. I've just suggested that if they are being removed, which appears to be the case, then it would be nice if the original images, which look really smart, could be displayed in digital form and potentially on a loop.

On my walk from the car to the ground I think I only pass 2 of the boards as I usually enter the JMU at the first available turnstile, so this could actually be a way for more people to see more of the legends which in my view would be a positive.

Legends? We very purposefully avoided using that word when we put the boards in place. A word used far too often. They are the Turf Moor Heroes and it's a shame if you've only seen two because it was well worth walking round to view them all and get photographs.

[martin_p]

It’s a poor do if the boards have already been removed without consultation, I hope they are somewhere safe and have been removed without damaging them. These boards have been the best addition to the Turf in the time I’ve been following the club, they look fantastic and anything digital won’t look half as good (and will be up for a few seconds between adverts and match info anyway). The club needs to find a proper solution to this and quickly, it leaves a real sour taste in the mouth, I’m astonished that it hadn’t occurred to anyone that these couldn’t just be ditched when the new advertising boards were being discussed.

[RMutt]

We had to contact the club about the boards when we saw the artists impressions. We had heard nothing prior to that. That was on 12th May. We received a reply one day later saying it would be looked into and we'd get a further reply two days later. We are still waiting for that reply and last night we saw that the boards on the Longside stand were not there. They were on the Bob Lord but I don't know about the Jimmy Mac. It is total disregard for those who worked so hard to get those boards in place and for those who funded them.

Ralph Coates was still on the Jimmy Mac wall.

[ClaretTony]

Ralph Coates was still on the Jimmy Mac wall.

Thanks for that info, I wasn't able to get to see whether they were still on the Jimmy Mac.

[martin_p]

Thanks for that info, I wasn't able to get to see whether they were still on the Jimmy Mac.

If they are intending to have the same digital boards on the Jimmy Mac stand they’ll have to move the two big square Jimmy Mac Stand pictures and the ‘bricks’ that people bought years ago as well as the hero pictures.

[Rileybobs]

Legends? We very purposefully avoided using that word when we put the boards in place. A word used far too often. They are the Turf Moor Heroes and it's a shame if you've only seen two because it was well worth walking round to view them all and get photographs.

Legends/heroes - semantics. The visuals that the club release show the words Burnley Legends so I guess that’s where I got that word from.

Maybe I’ll get round to walking around the ground some time if they’re still there, because as I’ve said they look great. But a trip to the football takes up the best part of a full day away from my family so I’m usually straight in and out.

[ClaretTony]

Legends/heroes - semantics.

No it’s not. It was a very conscious decision not to use the word legend. Heroes they might all have been but legends not.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Was there a vote on heroes over legends?
What were the results?

[Vegas Claret]

No it’s not. It was a very conscious decision not to use the word legend. Heroes they might all have been but legends not.

have you tried contacting Mr Pace on twitter, he definitely reads posts as he sometimes replies to them

[ClaretTony]

have you tried contacting Mr Pace on twitter, he definitely reads posts as he sometimes replies to them

I’ve contacted him directly by email. His immediate response suggested he didn’t know anything about it. It’s his further response I’m awaiting.

[Dark Cloud]

Was there a vote on heroes over legends?
What were the results?

It was a ballot! (I missed out...again!!)

[ClaretTony]

Was there a vote on heroes over legends?
What were the results?

Vote launched on the opening day of the 2015/16 season. Around 18,000 votes cast too. That was for which player. The agreed wording was between the club and Burnley FC Supporters Clubs and fit perfectly with the intentions.

[Vegas Claret]

I’ve contacted him directly by email. His immediate response suggested he didn’t know anything about it. It’s his further response I’m awaiting.

today would be the perfect time for you to follow up having been to the game last night. Agree 100% it's very poor form by someone at the club

[Bordeauxclaret]

Vote launched on the opening day of the 2015/16 season. Around 18,000 votes cast too. That was for which player. The agreed wording was between the club and Burnley FC Supporters Clubs and fit perfectly with the intentions.

All legends to me.

[Rileybobs]

No it’s not. It was a very conscious decision not to use the word legend. Heroes they might all have been but legends not.

The words 'hero' and 'legend' are both overused and I'm not sure you could truly categorise a lot of those football players as either. Also, it's hard for people below a certain age to identify with the majority of those players as a hero. Jimmy McIlroy isn't a hero to me, I never saw him play - but I fully recognise him as a club legend.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter. You thought the word hero is more fitting and I don't disagree with that. I used the word legend because that's what's shown on the club's visuals.

[bf2k]

The ones on the Longside have gone

That's not on if the club have taken them down with no intention to put them back up without consulting those that organised and paid for them. As I said on the other thread we all worked hard to organise these and supporters groups to pay for them.

And I thought fan engagement was number 1 priority from the ALK?

[TheFamilyCat]

Legends/heroes - semantics. The visuals that the club release show the words Burnley Legends so I guess that’s where I got that word from.

Maybe I’ll get round to walking around the ground some time if they’re still there, because as I’ve said they look great. But a trip to the football takes up the best part of a full day away from my family so I’m usually straight in and out.

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Taken on my son's first, and due to the pandemic, only visit to the Turf.

He had a bit of a tantrum so I couldn't take him round the ground to pose in front of my heroes; Little, Payton, Eyres, Harper (he does have one, doesn't he?)

I did tell him that I used to buy footy boots and goalie gloves from the one on the right but he didn't seem that impressed.

[claretonthecoast1882]

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Taken on my son's first, and due to the pandemic, only visit to the Turf.

He had a bit of a tantrum so I couldn't take him round the ground to pose in front of my heroes; Little, Payton, Eyres, Harper (he does have one, doesn't he?)

I did tell him that I used to buy footy boots and goalie gloves from the one on the right but he didn't seem that impressed.

Steve or Alan Harper ?

[Leisure]

That's not on if the club have taken them down with no intention to put them back up without consulting those that organised and paid for them. As I said on the other thread we all worked hard to organise these and supporters groups to pay for them.

And I thought fan engagement was number 1 priority from the ALK?

Accy Clarets contributed around £3000 towards the cost and we'll be mightily miffed if they've just been ditched!