Today's Game

[joey13]

Declan Rice is your mom?

Yep

[cricketfieldclarets]

As a club before country girl I don’t get over excited about England. That said, the scenes of celebrations immediately after the goals was a joy to see.

I’ve missed crowd interaction more than anything else in every game I’ve watched, and that sudden release of raw emotion, particularly after the Sterling goal was enough to re-ignite passion for our national team. Oddly, the delirium brought back memories of our 2-2 draw at Walsall in 91/92! ?. Lol

Superb. Roll on Saturday!

Open up the turf

[bf2k]

The best group of England players you have ever seen? Are you 5 years old? better group than the Gerrard Scholes Carrick Lampard Cole J Cole Rooney Beckham Rio Terry lot? not a chance. It's a better group because of the group Southgate has created, sadly people wont want to admit that. We have Leeds United and West Ham in a midfield 2

Yes better group. The group you said never played as a team, this group do. Regardless of the manager it’s the setup of England through the age groups.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Red card for Sweden.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Ouch for that tackle, bit harsh if that's a red though.

He got to the ball, that was his intent and he got there well before the Ukrainian lad

[bf2k]

You honestly think this team are better individually than Lampard. Gerrard. Rooney. Owen. Scholes. Beckham. Terry. Cole. Ferdinand. Cole. Neville.Etc.

Nope. Said nothing about individuals. I said a better team.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Yes better group. The group you said never played as a team, this group do. Regardless of the manager it’s the setup of England through the age groups.

And who had an excellent record as England under 21 manager and England national manager?

[cricketfieldclarets]

Nope. Said nothing about individuals. I said a better team.

And who has created said team?

[KRBFC]

Yes better group. The group you said never played as a team, this group do. Regardless of the manager it’s the setup of England through the age groups.

So why are you against Southgate then? he formed this group, created a team out of this group. Southgate was apart of the youth setup with this team. This is the reason I like this group, like you say, they play as a team.

[Barlickclaret]

Think all players need to learn after they kick the ball they must stop dead. Another joke of a decision.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Ouch for that tackle, bit harsh if that's a red though.

He got to the ball, that was his intent and he got there well before the Ukrainian laf

Games gone incredibly soft. But in the modern game that’s a red. He’s a probably really hurt him there.

[chekhov]

Keown says horror challenge. All he did was play the ball! What a nonsense.

[Spijed]

Ouch for that tackle, bit harsh if that's a red though.

He got to the ball, that was his intent and he got there well before the Ukrainian lad

Which West Ham player got a red overturned for the same thing?

[KRBFC]

Ouch for that tackle, bit harsh if that's a red though.

He got to the ball, that was his intent and he got there well before the Ukrainian lad

It's the slow mo, I'm not a fan of VAR slow mo at all, makes everything look 1000x worse.

[KRBFC]

Which West Ham player got a red overturned for the same thing?

Balbuena

[Barlickclaret]

What's the point of VAR checking it, then leaving it upto the ref. What is VAR for?

[Bin Ont Turf]

Ouch for that tackle, bit harsh if that's a red though.

He got to the ball, that was his intent and he got there well before the Ukrainian lad

Absolutely pathetic decision to send him off.

But what's more infuriating is that tit Keown saying horror challenge.

He kicked the ball you absolute melon head.

[martin_p]

Keown says horror challenge. All he did was play the ball! What a nonsense.

Yes, but with his foot high and studs showing. You just can’t do that these days. The Ukrainian looks badly injured which is exactly why they’re punishing these sorts of challenges.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Yes, but with his foot high and studs showing. You just can’t do that these days. The Ukrainian looks badly injured which is exactly why they’re punishing these sorts of challenges.

He wasn't trying to challenge the Ukrainian lad, he kicked the ball.

Its the Barnes /Matic scenario again

[ClaretTony]

ET ideal for England whatever happens now.

Doesn’t do any harm although it is a four day gap before the qf.

[bf2k]

So why are you against Southgate then? he formed this group, created a team out of this group. Southgate was apart of the youth setup with this team. This is the reason I like this group, like you say, they play as a team.

To both you and Cricketfieldclaret

This is the result of the England youth setup finally getting things right. This group know each other, come through the ranks with each other and put club rivalries to one side because they’ve played with each other from such a young age.

No doubt Southgate has been out of that but tactically he’s been found wanting in many games. World Cup semifinal, qualifiers and friendlier when we should be streaming through teams. For me he’s not a good football manager.

[Claretincraven]

Yes, but with his foot high and studs showing. You just can’t do that these days. The Ukrainian looks badly injured which is exactly why they’re punishing these sorts of challenges.

The ball wasn’t on the floor. How was he meant to play it other than with his foot at the same height as the ball. Pathetic decision.

[Vegas Claret]

And who had an excellent record as England under 21 manager and England national manager?

you think Southgate had a good U21 record ?

Qualified out of a tin pot group then finished bottom of the group in the Euro's winning only 1 game

Facts matter

edit: i'm assuming this was about Southgate ?

[wilks_bfc]

Medics are earning their money during extra time

They might have to step up to take the penalty’s themselves at this rate

[Claret]

The Ukrainian charged into the Swede.
Nothing the Swede could have done.
Bad decision by VAR. Bad decision by the ref.
Known should be shot

[yTib]

Its the Barnes /Matic scenario again

remember posting this at the time.

[martin_p]

He wasn't trying to challenge the Ukrainian lad, he kicked the ball.

Its the Barnes /Matic scenario again

No it isn’t. Barnes didn’t go in in a reckless way, stayed on his feet and Matic ran into the follow through. The Swedish guy didn’t.

[tiger76]

Doesn’t do any harm although it is a four day gap before the qf.

True! but this has been a physical contest, and it must be taking it's toll on both teams, whereas England got their business done and dusted in normal time, and can now rest up and relax, well these teams battle it out over 120 minutes, and possibly even the mental anxiety of penalties, so whichever side emerges they'll face a race to recover before Saturday, and any advantage can only help at this stage of the tournament.

[Tall Paul]

lol
It was one of the most obvious red cards ever. Leg breaker.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

To both you and Cricketfieldclaret

This is the result of the England youth setup finally getting things right. This group know each other, come through the ranks with each other and put club rivalries to one side because they’ve played with each other from such a young age.

No doubt Southgate has been out of that but tactically he’s been found wanting in many games. World Cup semifinal, qualifiers and friendlier when we should be streaming through teams. For me he’s not a good football manager.

As someone who gave up on England after 2010 Africa, I stated recently on here that I like Southgate, his honesty, willingness to explain and back up his team selections etc so I've been watching /listening to England games for the first time in over a decade and feeling excited /hopeful again.

He's done a good job thus far, no losses and no goals conceded in this tournament and we are in the Q/F with a good chance to reach the semis.

It doesn't really matter what any of us think about his managerial ability, he's out there moving the team forward and setting up for each game individually, isn't getting hung up on trying to shoehorn players in, he's all about a team mentality.

A world cup Semi was a very good achievement and on the back of a difficult season being in the Q/F is very good, a semifinal would be great....anything else brilliant.

Also how he responded to that stupid reference to the penalty he missed etc was spot on and admirable.

[KRBFC]

To both you and Cricketfieldclaret

This is the result of the England youth setup finally getting things right. This group know each other, come through the ranks with each other and put club rivalries to one side because they’ve played with each other from such a young age.

No doubt Southgate has been out of that but tactically he’s been found wanting in many games. World Cup semifinal, qualifiers and friendlier when we should be streaming through teams. For me he’s not a good football manager.

Every single international team ever has come through the youth setups together and know each other.

putting club rivalries aside? is that not praise for the manager....
Tactically found wanting when? friendlies lmao?
We have absolutely breezed through every qualification with Southgate, we failed to qualify under Mclaren.

You are praising the team while slating the manager, contradicts yourself.

[martin_p]

The ball wasn’t on the floor. How was he meant to play it other than with his foot at the same height as the ball. Pathetic decision.

The ball wasn’t close enough to him to play without going in recklessly, he could have chosen to stay on his feet and move closer to the ball. Had he done so then his and the Ukrainian players tournament wouldn’t both be over.

[KRBFC]

As someone who gave up on England after 2010 Africa, I stated recently on here that I like Southgate, his honesty, willingness to explain and back up his team selections etc so I've been watching /listening to England games for the first time in over a decade and feeling excited /hopeful again.

He's done a good job thus far, no losses and no goals conceded in this tournament and we are in the Q/F with a good chance to reach the semis.

It doesn't really matter what any of us think about his managerial ability, he's out there moving the team forward and setting up for each game individually, isn't getting hung up on trying to shoehorn players in, he's all about a team mentality.

A world cup Semi was a very good achievement and on the back of a difficult season being in the Q/F is very good, a semifinal would be great....anything else brilliant.

Also how he responded to that stupid reference to the penalty he missed etc was spot on and admirable.

I'm in the exact same boat, I just like this group regardless of what trophies they win. I hated England for so long and completely gave up with the national team.

[Claretincraven]

The ball wasn’t close enough to him to play without going in recklessly, he could have chosen to stay on his feet and move closer to the ball. Had he done so then his and the Ukrainian players tournament wouldn’t both be over.

Only one player was reckless and it wasn’t the Swede.

[ClaretTony]

The ball wasn’t close enough to him to play without going in recklessly, he could have chosen to stay on his feet and move closer to the ball. Had he done so then his and the Ukrainian players tournament wouldn’t both be over.

I’ve missed the red card and for some reason I can’t rewind it.

[martin_p]

Only one player was reckless and it wasn’t the Swede.

Odd that he’s not the one with the injury then.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

No it isn’t. Barnes didn’t go in in a reckless way, stayed on his feet and Matic ran into the follow through. The Swedish guy didn’t.

The Swedish player was stretching to get the ball, he got it before the Ukrainian lad, the Ukrainian lad collided with the leg AFTER the Swede had kicked the ball away.

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Just before Swede kicks ball...

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I’ve missed the red card and for some reason I can’t rewind it.

https://twitter.com/Spainbvb1/status/14 ... 50026?s=19

[Claretincraven]

Odd that he’s not the one with the injury then.

Why?

[martin_p]

The Swedish player was stretching to get the ball, he got it before the Ukrainian lad, the Ukrainian lad collided with the leg AFTER the Swede had kicked the ball away.

Screenshot_20210629_222133_com.android.gallery3d.jpg

Just before Swede kicks ball...

Yes, as I said the Swede didn’t stay on his feet.

[ClaretTony]

https://twitter.com/Spainbvb1/status/14 ... 50026?s=19

A still picture isn’t much use to be fair. I’ll make sure I see the incident afterwards.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Yes, as I said the Swede didn’t stay on his feet.

He didn't go in studs up either.
He was clearly playing the ball, it wasn't a lunging tackle etc.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

A still picture isn’t much use to be fair. I’ll make sure I see the incident afterwards.

Its a video on that link

[cricketfieldclarets]

Pathetic rolling around here

[yTib]

surely we will be playing ukraine.

[cricketfieldclarets]

What a header.

[ClaretTony]

Its a video on that link

Sorry, thought it was a still. Just seen it. Has to be a red surely.

[Bosscat]

Joachim Loewe, Mercedes Benz, Gerd Muller, Bayer Leverkusen, Frederic Handel, Franz Beckanbauer, BMW, Beethoven, Bratwurst, Willi Brandt, Angela Merkel your boys took one hell of a beating

[tim_noone]

Great goal....

[tim_noone]

No offside