Bus shelter vandals...

[ClaretAndJew]

Most towns do if not all padiham is no different but you notice it more because you probably live there or visit there often, I agree regarding the punishments, people who vandalise & wreck things should be forced to put it right, the liberals have a lot to answer for with being too soft regarding punishments, I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again the taxpayers & members of the general public need input on deciding punishments, small scale offences could be decided by a small committee elected representing any said town, for major offences eg murder you ask the nation.

God damn liberals and all the power they have in government.

[claret2018]

The public have shown time and time again they can’t be trusted with anything, they’re the last people who should be deciding anything. You’ve got people on here suggesting capital punishment for vandalism ffs.

[Boss Hogg]

Capital would certainly be excessive even though these are probably no hopers. They will probably be given some voluntary counselling and free vouchers. Corporal punishment would suffice. It works well in other countries as a deterrent.

[Jakubclaret]

It’s a massive leap from 1 person on this forum suggesting that capital punishment is appropriate for vandalism to the instant assumption that rest of the population would follow suit, I’d suggest that roughly well over 90% would only consider capital punishment for murder & suchlike. We do have idiots in society of course we do but it’s massively overwhelmed with decent folk who are more than capable of making sound pragmatic decisions with fair judgement.

[Rileybobs]

It’s a massive leap from 1 person on this forum suggesting that capital punishment is appropriate for vandalism to the instant assumption that rest of the population would follow suit, I’d suggest that roughly well over 90% would only consider capital punishment for murder & suchlike. We do have idiots in society of course we do but it’s massively overwhelmed with decent folk who are more than capable of making sound pragmatic decisions with fair judgement.

Be honest Jakub, if you were on trial would you actually trust yourself to be on the jury?

[Jakubclaret]

Be honest Jakub, if you were on trial would you actually trust yourself to be on the jury?

You’ve made that assumption that I’ve never been called upon for jury service, of course I trust myself, we need democratic decisions based on personal input.

[Rileybobs]

You’ve made that assumption that I’ve never been called upon for jury service, of course I trust myself, we need democratic decisions based on personal input.

You’d probably sentence yourself to death.

[bobinho]

The public have shown time and time again they can’t be trusted with anything, they’re the last people who should be deciding anything. You’ve got people on here suggesting capital punishment for vandalism ffs.

I agree. They can't even be trusted to accept the results of elections etc, so why should we trust them with anything else?

Anyway, maybe capital punishment is a bit much. It's as far the wrong way to go as letting them off, giving them counselling or a few hours community payback is in the other way.

We have that because of all the "loonie liberals" that maybe haven't actually been in power, but have lobbied and harassed so much that they have got their way. The phrase isn't restricted purely to members of the liberal party, but to those who just can't wait to `help` someone, even though they either don't deserve it or even want it. Can't believe people can't actually see we are reaping what we have sowed for so many years, and by consecutive governments.

Read something the other day that suggested identifying criminals on community payback was being considered? I remember when folk were in uproar about this years ago!

My take on it is simple...Get 'em out cleaning the streets, picking dog toffee up, cleaning up graffiti etc, and make them wear something that identifies them as someone who has a debt to pay to society. Even if one out of the ten is embarrassed enough to not want to do it again, job done. I bet there's folk who will still complain about that being demeaning! To me, that's crazy.

[Devils_Advocate]

I agree. They can't even be trusted to accept the results of elections etc, so why should we trust them with anything else?

Anyway, maybe capital punishment is a bit much. It's as far the wrong way to go as letting them off, giving them counselling or a few hours community payback is in the other way.

We have that because of all the "loonie liberals" that maybe haven't actually been in power, but have lobbied and harassed so much that they have got their way. The phrase isn't restricted purely to members of the liberal party, but to those who just can't wait to `help` someone, even though they either don't deserve it or even want it. Can't believe people can't actually see we are reaping what we have sowed for so many years, and by consecutive governments.

Read something the other day that suggested identifying criminals on community payback was being considered? I remember when folk were in uproar about this years ago!

My take on it is simple...Get 'em out cleaning the streets, picking dog toffee up, cleaning up graffiti etc, and make them wear something that identifies them as someone who has a debt to pay to society. Even if one out of the ten is embarrassed enough to not want to do it again, job done. I bet there's folk who will still complain about that being demeaning! To me, that's crazy.

[Clarets4me]

The public have shown time and time again they can’t be trusted with anything, they’re the last people who should be deciding anything. You’ve got people on here suggesting capital punishment for vandalism ffs.

It's one view, as is the view suggested to me by a serving Senior Police Officer a couple of years ago that we should employ the SAS/SBS to eliminate Albanian, Turkish and Jamaican Drug Gangs in London ... he reckoned by legalising Cannabis and disposing of around 150 people, the Government would send a strong message to them and anyone who wanted to follow ...

[Rileybobs]

I agree. They can't even be trusted to accept the results of elections etc, so why should we trust them with anything else?

Anyway, maybe capital punishment is a bit much. It's as far the wrong way to go as letting them off, giving them counselling or a few hours community payback is in the other way.

We have that because of all the "loonie liberals" that maybe haven't actually been in power, but have lobbied and harassed so much that they have got their way. The phrase isn't restricted purely to members of the liberal party, but to those who just can't wait to `help` someone, even though they either don't deserve it or even want it. Can't believe people can't actually see we are reaping what we have sowed for so many years, and by consecutive governments.

Read something the other day that suggested identifying criminals on community payback was being considered? I remember when folk were in uproar about this years ago!

My take on it is simple...Get 'em out cleaning the streets, picking dog toffee up, cleaning up graffiti etc, and make them wear something that identifies them as someone who has a debt to pay to society. Even if one out of the ten is embarrassed enough to not want to do it again, job done. I bet there's folk who will still complain about that being demeaning! To me, that's crazy.

Litter picking is a bit of an easy ride though isn’t it?! Why not parade them through the streets naked whilst onlookers hurl chants of ‘shame’ and throw rotten vegetables and human excrement at them?

[bobinho]

And just like that.....

[Peter Loo]

Litter picking is a bit of an easy ride though isn’t it?! Why not parade them through the streets naked whilst onlookers hurl chants of ‘shame’ and throw rotten vegetables and human excrement at them?

Ah back to Victorian values eh

[welsbyswife]

Send in the cavalry Peter Loo......massacre!

[Jakubclaret]

Litter picking is a bit of an easy ride though isn’t it?! Why not parade them through the streets naked whilst onlookers hurl chants of ‘shame’ and throw rotten vegetables and human excrement at them?

Have you ever tried chasing after an empty crisp packet or a Mars bar wrapper in gale force winds with a litter picking stick & a bin bag out of control, it’s far from easy trust me.

[Peter Loo]

Send in the cavalry Peter Loo......massacre!

Here here!

[Bullabill]

Where,Where?

[Damo]

The public have shown time and time again they can’t be trusted with anything, they’re the last people who should be deciding anything. You’ve got people on here suggesting capital punishment for vandalism ffs.

All decisions should be made by the inner party.
The proles need not bother themselves with deciding how society should be governed

[IanMcL]

Whatever happened to 7 years transportation to the colonies?

(Only joking)

[TheFamilyCat]

What a surprise.

I think I've got myself a stalker.

[JohnMac]

Tremendous stuff. No condemnation of those who did it, just rage at some imagined enemy.

'What imagined enemy?
Rage?

[Burnley Ace]

You’ve made that assumption that I’ve never been called upon for jury service, of course I trust myself, we need democratic decisions based on personal input.

Who decides who sits on this sentencing committee? Is it an elected position? What’s the criteria - a certain level of education, owning property, in employment? Do you volunteer or are you conscripted? Should children be treated the same as adults?

[Billy Balfour]

We already have laws to deal with this sort of thing. The problem is that there's a reluctance, throughout the system, to criminalise adolescents, and this only stores up problems for our society. The delinquents grow up believing themselves to be untouchable and go on to commit far more serious crimes in adulthood.

[Dinks]

I would fill all the potholes with these criminals,might be a little longer lasting than tarmac.

[Rileybobs]

We already have laws to deal with this sort of thing. The problem is that there's a reluctance, throughout the system, to criminalise adolescents, and this only stores up problems for our society. The delinquents grow up believing themselves to be untouchable and go on to commit far more serious crimes in adulthood.

I'm far from qualified to make an accurate statement about this, but I can't imagine that young people who get a criminal record for petty crimes or misdemeanors go on to contribute more to society. I may be completely wrong, but I would say it's unlikely.

We also don't know whether the miscreants in this case were adolescents.

[Lancasterclaret]

Great thread

Putting people in work gangs clearly doesn't work, and the current system clearly doesn't work

About time we tried something different, but that won't go down well with, er, the "more reactionary" part of this board

[gandhisflipflop]

Most towns do if not all padiham is no different but you notice it more because you probably live there or visit there often, I agree regarding the punishments, people who vandalise & wreck things should be forced to put it right, the liberals have a lot to answer for with being too soft regarding punishments, I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again the taxpayers & members of the general public need input on deciding punishments, small scale offences could be decided by a small committee elected representing any said town, for major offences eg murder you ask the nation.

Sky Hangings has a good ring to it....

[Jakubclaret]

I'm far from qualified to make an accurate statement about this, but I can't imagine that young people who get a criminal record for petty crimes or misdemeanors go on to contribute more to society. I may be completely wrong, but I would say it's unlikely.

We also don't know whether the miscreants in this case were adolescents.

“I’m far from qualified to make an accurate statement about this” I completely agree regarding most topics but when has that ever stopped you in the past?

[claretonthecoast1882]

Sky Hangings has a good ring to it....

And it's liveeeeeee

[ICL]

Looks like many Colne road bus shelters, Burnley to Queensgate, smashed overnight.

[Hipper]

It's one view, as is the view suggested to me by a serving Senior Police Officer a couple of years ago that we should employ the SAS/SBS to eliminate Albanian, Turkish and Jamaican Drug Gangs in London ... he reckoned by legalising Cannabis and disposing of around 150 people, the Government would send a strong message to them and anyone who wanted to follow ...

My guess it it will just escalate the war and lead to many innocent deaths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_drug_war

Has it worked? The fact that it's still going on suggests 'no'.

[Burnley Ace]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rly-broken

Who to vote for - Frances Crook or Jacubclaret??? It’s a tough one.

[ŽižkovClaret]

No way it will be kids this. Too many bus shelters. Chances are its someone with a gripe against the bus company or buses in general.

A right heid the baw i reckon

[ClaretAndJew]

Could it be rival bus companies?

[HahaYeah]

I think it will have been kids in a car and drugs will be involved.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Could it be rival bus companies?

Maybe the Taxi mafia?

[Stayingup]

The public have shown time and time again they can’t be trusted with anything, they’re the last people who should be deciding anything. You’ve got people on here suggesting capital punishment for vandalism ffs.

Dont be daft. Its not a serious comment.

[Bordeauxclaret]

My moneys on some drunk, possibly from The Big Window, who’s disgruntled about life.

[claret2018]

Maybe the Taxi mafia?

Sounds like the work of the infamous Charabanc South Siders.

[bfcjg]

All crime and punishment issues to one side I feel desperately sorry for people of all ages who will now get drenched and windswept whilst waiting for a bus, it just sickens most decent people.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Is the jagga van still around ?

[Jamesy]

No way it will be kids this. Too many bus shelters. Chances are its someone with a gripe against the bus company or buses in general.

A right heid the baw i reckon

I don’t think it is the bus companies who pay for the installation and upkeep of shelters, I think it is the County Council although I am sure someone on here will know?

[ŽižkovClaret]

I don’t think it is the bus companies who pay for the installation and upkeep of shelters, I think it is the County Council although I am sure someone on here will know?

I mean im not gonna credit the kind of person who would do this with a lot of critical thinking ability....

[ŽižkovClaret]

All crime and punishment issues to one side I feel desperately sorry for people of all ages who will now get drenched and windswept whilst waiting for a bus, it just sickens most decent people.

My great aunt actually died after falling backwards through an open backed bus shelter that had been vandalised

[Peter Loo]

My great aunt actually died after falling backwards through an open backed bus shelter that had been vandalised

What yesterday?

[ŽižkovClaret]

What yesterday?

Nope, just showing that it can have a bigger effect than a few wet passengers:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/n ... rs-review/

[Peter Loo]

Awful.

[bfcjg]

I mean im not gonna credit the kind of person who would do this with a lot of critical thinking ability....

That is terrible and shows the consequences of such idiotic actions. I hope Peter Loo reads his unfunny post regarding your aunt and apologises.

[ŽižkovClaret]

That is terrible and shows the consequences of such idiotic actions. I hope Peter Loo reads his unfunny post regarding your aunt and apologises.

His 2nd showed he understood the situation tbf. I'm very much taking into account the lack of an edit button re: the 1st

[bfcjg]

His 2nd showed he understood the situation tbf. I'm very much taking into account the lack of an edit button re: the 1st

Fair enough, sometimes thinking twice before posting is the best option, as I know to well at times