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Post by IanMcL » Wed Aug 11, 2021 11:40 pm

3 or 4 signings to come, is my prediction.
Guess of today...
Lennon
Baldock
Just One
Plus poss Christie.

However, I am thinking that Mr Dyche likes one or two of the younger players and that spaces will be there for them.

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Post by giveusaB » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:16 am

BBC gossip saying Southampton have accepted a £15m bid from Leicester City for Denmark defender Jannik Vestergaard.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:50 am

Villa after Ward Prowse too, imagine losing Ings, Vesterdaard and Prowse in one window

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:58 am

Might they come for tarks ?? Available and relevantly cheap for a proven, good centre half.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:52 am

s6t9a2f3f wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:58 am
Might they come for tarks ?? Available and relevantly cheap for a proven, good centre half.
it would be suicide for us to sell Tarks to anyone out side of the time 8, the rest of us are in a relegation battle

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:02 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:28 pm
Aye aside from his £85k a week wages.
Therein lithe the problem!

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Post by superdimitri » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:34 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:02 am
Therein lithe the problem!
I'm sure it's been done to death but I think once you factor in bonuses that's not as out of reach as you'd think. Reportedly Mee is on 55k a week. Given goal and clean sheet bonuses can amount over 1k each and survival bonuses are a lump sum tied to league position it's not a huge gap.

If we're able to sign Defour I'm sure we could also sign Shaqiri if he was interested in being a starter each week. I'm just not sure he has the attitude or fitness to track back enough to ever be a player that Dyche could fit in our system though.

At Stoke if things weren't going their way he would fade from games and look disinterested.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:22 am

Shaquiri is the most bizarre regular appearance on this thread

He's absolutely 100% not what we need
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Post by dibraidio » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:52 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:41 pm
Personally I think Baldock is a realistic signing that would add to our squad
Why does signing a right back for 8m seem realistic when we desperately need wide players and have a limited budget?

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Post by fatboy47 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:59 am

dibraidio wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:52 am
Why does signing a right back for 8m seem realistic when we desperately need wide players and have a limited budget?
And we have Collins, Bardesly and Lowton who can all play there.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:59 am

Re Baldock because hes a wing back who can provide opportunities for goals by attacking with pace.
Matt Lowton can but encouraged to sit back rather than push on.

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:11 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:59 am
Re Baldock because hes a wing back who can provide opportunities for goals by attacking with pace.
Matt Lowton can but encouraged to sit back rather than push on.
Encouraged to sit back? You must’ve watched a different Lowton to the one I watched.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:18 am

For those saying Shaqiri L’Equipe are reporting Lyon have agreed personnel terms of 350k a week with the player.

However this is based on being able to get him for next to nothing from Liverpool

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:19 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:18 am
For those saying Shaqiri L’Equipe are reporting Lyon have agreed personnel terms of 350k a week with the player.

However this is based on being able to get him for next to nothing from Liverpool
350k a month’

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Post by s6t9a2f3f » Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:21 am

Norwich sign a winger for 10 million from a Greek club

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Post by superdimitri » Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am

So that's 75k a week in GBP. Not that I think he'd ever come here. I do however think we could stretch to that wage for the right player.

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:53 am

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:23 am
So that's 75k a week in GBP. Not that I think he'd ever come here. I do however think we could stretch to that wage for the right player.
We paid more to Stephens and Brady combined last season. £75k p/w on 1 really good player or £40k a week to 2 shite ones.

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am

It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.

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Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:57 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:58 pm
Surprising though it may be; despite Leeds Utd being a massive club they don't get automatic entry to the Champions' League :D
Byes all way to the final isn’t it?

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:00 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
:D :D

He is probably thinking get rid off all the bench and we could have signed Messi

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Post by tiger76 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:04 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
Precisely! and if anything we need to try and reduce our wage bill, but that's tricky when we're also hoping to improve our squad, it's a delicate balance that somehow needs to be struck.

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Post by NewClaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:09 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
Possible, but far from certain, I wouldn’t say. Mainly since I can’t see the club agreeing to such clauses at the time they were signed.

Tarks would be expecting similar (or more) to sign a new contract and Mee needs a new one too, so even if such a clause did exist, I suspect we’re only slightly prolonging the inevitable in any event.

Seems to me that Dyche likes quality, experienced players whilst Pace wants us to develop the academy and bring more players through. In my mind the way to marry the two is to pay a core group very well and then rely on the Academy to make up the numbers.

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:36 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
It doesn't work like that though does it?

There's zero proof that is written in their contracts, there's literally no chance our club would agree to that with multiple players and if they did, why does Tarkowski earn less than Wood?

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:50 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
That's quite rare I believe, for players to have those clauses.
I think it was Terry and/or Lampard at Chelsea who had them and Messi, I can't recall anyone else.

All that usually happens is agents use it as leverage in new contract negotiations.

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Post by Richardsbfc » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:07 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
You've played too much Football Manager.

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:28 pm

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Post by Wokingclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:29 pm

Waiting.......

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Post by Wokingclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:33 pm

On now

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Post by Guller Bull » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:36 pm

On where?

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Post by Wokingclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:37 pm

Presser Clarets player

Nothing Close...looking

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Post by Guller Bull » Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:41 pm

Kin hate that website - I've logged in but can see "Watch Brighton Press etc" click on it and it says subscribe ! I already have but cant find a direct link to the vid!

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:00 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:41 pm
Kin hate that website - I've logged in but can see "Watch Brighton Press etc" click on it and it says subscribe ! I already have but cant find a direct link to the vid!
Click on the clarets+ symbol and it opens a window with a link to live video and live something else. Click on the video one I think......

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Post by KateR » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:45 pm

well this is a quiet Thursday, it must be next Thursday the new arrivals will be announced

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Post by Guller Bull » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:49 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:00 pm
Click on the clarets+ symbol and it opens a window with a link to live video and live something else. Click on the video one I think......
Nope tried that :(

Now it looks like the video has been taken down "Oops something has gone wrong " message.

I've e mailed them to see if it's just me.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:58 pm

the website is dreadful, feels like it's been designed and coded by someone who's 1 week into a year long web design course.

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Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:22 pm

KateR wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:45 pm
well this is a quiet Thursday, it must be next Thursday the new arrivals will be announced
Next season more like.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:19 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:50 pm
That's quite rare I believe, for players to have those clauses.
I think it was Terry and/or Lampard at Chelsea who had them and Messi, I can't recall anyone else.

All that usually happens is agents use it as leverage in new contract negotiations.
I think technically any club & any player are under no obligation to reveal how much anybody is getting paid, it’s treated usually as personal & quite frankly nobody’s business apart from the said club & player, the figures that are often mentioned are usually ballpark & subject to certain conditions being met, target driven if you will such as a striker scoring a set amount or a goalie keeping clean sheets.

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Post by superdimitri » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:28 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:56 am
It doesn’t work like that though does it?

Once we sign a player on higher wages than our current highest earners (Mee and Tarky), their contracts will state that they will also get paid that much.
I'm not sure they have a clause like that. That seems more something like Ronaldo or Messi have rather than our players but I guess we will never know for sure.

I think for the right player we would go for it and could afford it. I do not think other players earning a lot less would be an issue if the new player deserves it. Using Shaqiri as an example everyone knows he's a quality player with international experience. It's a benefit to them that we have better players.. and even more the case with our wages being heavily bonus based.

The problem for us is we just can't seem to attract players who are better than what we currently have. Part of that will be down to relegation clauses and agent fees rather than wages.

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Post by joey13 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:03 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:28 pm
I'm not sure they have a clause like that. That seems more something like Ronaldo or Messi have rather than our players but I guess we will never know for sure.

I think for the right player we would go for it and could afford it. I do not think other players earning a lot less would be an issue if the new player deserves it. Using Shaqiri as an example everyone knows he's a quality player with international experience. It's a benefit to them that we have better players.. and even more the case with our wages being heavily bonus based.

The problem for us is we just can't seem to attract players who are better than what we currently have. Part of that will be down to relegation clauses and agent fees rather than wages.
Or the real reason ,we’ve been taken over by people who aren’t willing to invest

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Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:19 pm

Unwilling and/ or unable. They don’t have any money. They are will just be increasing debt created by Garlick extracting a huge amount of money from the club after many windows of little investment by him.
They will look to increase revenues but I can’t see how they are ever going to repay the debt unless they sell to a benefactor. They will carry the debt and service it until they sell it on IMO. There is probably only so much debt the club can service even with increased revenues. I appreciate the window is not closed but if it ends like this it is difficult to see how the club is in a better position than it was pre take over.
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Post by superdimitri » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:35 pm

joey13 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:03 pm
Or the real reason ,we’ve been taken over by people who aren’t willing to invest
I don't think they have the cash like other sugar daddy owners do. Sadly for us we were never going to attract a rich billionaire owner..but that could work out to be a good thing in the long term.

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Post by Stalbansclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:47 pm

joey13 wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:03 pm
Or the real reason ,we’ve been taken over by people who aren’t willing to invest
They are “not willing to invest” in the same way that I am “not willing to invest” in a larger house…. Neither of us have the money. Boss Hogg has nailed it I think. I’m hoping somehow we can still get a couple in before the window shuts .

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Post by ClaretAL » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:13 pm

Dyche saying pretty much what we are all saying, lets keep it real...

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... at-burnley

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Post by warksclaret » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:34 pm

Interesting to see how Palace have progressed this window. They had an ageing squad, with a number out of contract , but have brought in some good first team players, as well as recruit a new manager. I am also sure they are not finished yet in the window

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Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:44 pm

Bielsa just signed a new contract at Leeds.

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Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:53 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Interesting to see how Palace have progressed this window. They had an ageing squad, with a number out of contract , but have brought in some good first team players, as well as recruit a new manager. I am also sure they are not finished yet in the window
You’re not allowed to spout such facts. Get in line with the Club.

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:57 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Interesting to see how Palace have progressed this window. They had an ageing squad, with a number out of contract , but have brought in some good first team players, as well as recruit a new manager. I am also sure they are not finished yet in the window
Their American investor had pumped £90 million into the club. Some Virtual Reality chap apparently.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:57 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:34 pm
Interesting to see how Palace have progressed this window. They had an ageing squad, with a number out of contract , but have brought in some good first team players, as well as recruit a new manager. I am also sure they are not finished yet in the window
Theyve also just gained a new American Director, who according to the BBC has put some £90m into the club.
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Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:58 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Thu Aug 12, 2021 6:57 pm
Their American investor had pumped £90 million into the club. Some Virtual Reality chap apparently.
John Textor.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:03 pm

Id be surprised if any of our Board , with the possible exception of Mr Garlick, have that sort of money.
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