Today's footie 12/9/21

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:50 am

Not much today, which for a Sunday is unusual.

Hearts-Hibs meet in a high noon top of the table SPL clash.

Forest-Cardiff in the Champ at 2.30, a Cardiff win would take them above Rovers. So come on the Bluebirds.

Then the big one of the day, Leeds-Liverpool at 4,30, an away win would again be the order of the day for Burnley fans.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:44 pm

Finished 0-0 in the Edinburgh derby, mainly due to both keepers.

Ginnelly came on for the last 25 minutes, and did OK without creating anything of note.

Worrall starts for Forest in their game.

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:04 pm

Forest carry on they will go down

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:32 pm

1-0 Forest at HT, and this would be a huge win for them, and Chris hughton in particular, as he must be fearing for his job.

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:06 pm

Losing again at home.
Somethings got to give at Forest

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:12 pm

Froobs wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:06 pm
Losing again at home.
Somethings got to give at Forest

Goal disallowed

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:53 pm

0-1 Liverpool

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:57 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:53 pm
0-1 Liverpool

Looking like 2 points dropped against a relegation rival!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:59 pm

Leeds are getting ripped apart.

Second season syndrome?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:09 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:59 pm
Leeds are getting ripped apart.

Second season syndrome?

Hope so for our sakes.

100th PL goal for Salah, and yet another assist for TAA.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:44 pm

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:45 pm

2-0 Liverpool, Fabinho.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:46 pm

Strange that Leeds have spent a fortune but yet still have truly awful center backs

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:47 pm

How many man buns have Leeds go on show today?

Liverpool still appear to be caught in 80's Liverpoodle mode.

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:49 pm

Bad snap to the leg?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:51 pm

Nasty injury for Harvey Elliott, not good when the physios run on before the referee could stop play.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:51 pm

Dreadful injury to Harvey Elliott by the look of it. Poor lad

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:53 pm

Red Card for Pascal Struijk, is that harsh or not, I'm not watching, so can't comment on the incident.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:53 pm

Red card

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:53 pm

Be nice to see whether it was actually a red card foul.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:53 pm

Awful injury but not sure it was a red having played it back a few times. Not sure Klopp should be allowed to talk to the ref prior to sending off either.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:54 pm

No replays but didn’t look malicious in real time. RC was a Var decision

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:54 pm

No doubt Klopp will be wanting a lifetime ban.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:54 pm

Red card given for severity of injury rather than the actual challenge IMO

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:55 pm

Didn’t look like a dirty challenge - but it was very clumsy. Unfortunate to be red carded. Looks like a certain leg break which is a huge blow to the 18 year old. To be honest I had said a couple of minutes before he needs to come off as he was conceding possession too easily - and ironically Henderson was about to come on for him. Klopp going to have a field day about the physical side of the game despite this game being very free flowing.

Wishing the lad all the best in his recovery!!

PadihamThickNeck · Post by **PadihamThickNeck** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:55 pm

Awful for the young lad, didn’t look a red not showed a repeat. Don’t agree with it being a red just because of the bad injury.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:55 pm

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:54 pm
Red card given for severity of injury rather than the actual challenge IMO

Which would be completely ridiculous (imo).

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:56 pm

Didnt look a red at all
Foot looked to be facing the other way to leg

https://twitter.com/MessiMX30i/status/1 ... 56515?s=20

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:57 pm

Never a red

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:01 pm

Not rewinding that one but didn’t look a red to me. Gutted for Elliot though, such a talent we’ll now be deprived of for a fair while.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:02 pm

Always hard to see a player suffer a serious injury but never, ever a red card.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:02 pm

Feel desperately sorry for such a talented young player to be on the end of an injury like that. Very unpleasant.

Klopp is going to be absolutely unbearable tonight, though. Please, Sky, just lock him in a dark room somewhere for 24 hours, let him froth on his own and get it out of his system without broadcasting his histrionics.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:10 pm

I’m still not sure if it was or wasn’t a red tbh

Struijk wins the ball with his right foot on Elliots left side
It was his left leg tucked underneath as he tackled that took Elliot out

It is a huge shame for him though as he’s been one of Liverpool better players so far this season

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:11 pm

Statement from PL says RC was not a Var Decision

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:12 pm

On the football front Mane should have scored 4 or 5 today

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:15 pm

To be fair, I tnink we'd be supporting Dyche's "histrionics" if , say, McNeil were to have his season ended by such a so-called clumsy challenge.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:18 pm

Looked pretty bad to me, sliding tackle from behind with not much control of his trailing leg.

A15TG · Post by **A15TG** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:19 pm

I wonder what Mr Klopps going to call Leeds after he said we were like watching a wrestling match and we didn’t have a booking if I remember rightly. So far they’ve had 2 bookings and a sending off.

XDS · Post by **XDS** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:20 pm

That looks a real bad injury, fingers crossed for the lad but looked awful, in fairness I didn't think it was a red card but given the injury and the shock on both sets of players I get why Pawson showed him red

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:20 pm

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... =2&t=56993

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:21 pm

Sky reported Pawson was giving it a red and the delay was because he wanted to get the medics on for Elliott and VAR confirmed to stick with his decision.

Awful decision, never a red card, not even a foul, only given because of the injury involved which is a terrible decision.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:22 pm

XDS · Post by **XDS** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:23 pm

Apologies hadn't seen it

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:26 pm

XDS wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:20 pm
That looks a real bad injury, fingers crossed for the lad but looked awful, in fairness I didn't think it was a red card but given the injury and the shock on both sets of players I get why Pawson showed him red

Horrific injury for the young lad to suffer, however wasn't it the VAR official who ruled on the red card after watching the replay, I haven't seen the incident yet, but most posters on here, and the pundits seem to think the red card was harsh.

I wouldn't be

if Leeds appeal, and if they do appeal I can see it being rescinded.

Also it does make me wonder whether Klopp's recent comments had any bearing on this decision, he's been banging on about the physical nature of our game for a few weeks now, and this must influence officials whether they'll admit it or not.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:28 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:21 pm
Sky reported Pawson was giving it a red and the delay was because he wanted to get the medics on for Elliott and VAR confirmed to stick with his decision.

Awful decision, never a red card, not even a foul, only given because of the injury involved which is a terrible decision.

didn't look like a foul to me. And Strik (sorry about the spelling) clearly didn't know he'd hurt Elliott

Froobs · Post by **Froobs** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:29 pm

Salah and mane dont pass to each other
Its shoot or bust
Big downfall in the final 3rd

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:31 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:26 pm
Horrific injury for the young lad to suffer, however wasn't it the VAR official who ruled on the red card after watching the replay, I haven't seen the incident yet, but most posters on here, and the pundits seem to think the red card was harsh.

I wouldn't be if Leeds appeal, and if they do appeal I can see it being rescinded.

Also it does make me wonder whether Klopp's recent comments had any bearing on this decision, he's been banging on about the physical nature of our game for a few weeks now, and this must influence officials whether they'll admit it or not.

I wouldn’t listen to a word that came out of Klopps mouth, up there with the worst losers in football, I despise him.

Wasn’t a red, you even get away without a yellow usually for that.

Liverpool fans will be calling for capital punishment and say it was deliberate etc

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:39 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:26 pm
Horrific injury for the young lad to suffer, however wasn't it the VAR official who ruled on the red card after watching the replay, I haven't seen the incident yet, but most posters on here, and the pundits seem to think the red card was harsh.

I wouldn't be if Leeds appeal, and if they do appeal I can see it being rescinded.

Also it does make me wonder whether Klopp's recent comments had any bearing on this decision, he's been banging on about the physical nature of our game for a few weeks now, and this must influence officials whether they'll admit it or not.

Sky said the ref had decided to give a red, but VAR checked it before it was awarded and agreed with the decision.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:40 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:31 pm

Liverpool fans will be calling for capital punishment and say it was deliberate etc

Let’s not start the capital punishment debate again

XDS · Post by **XDS** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:45 pm

If it was Ben Mee who had received a red for the challenge we would be going ballistic, really feel for the lad but Leeds should appeal the red and I think it would get overturned, a bit similar to the Son one at Goodison the other season