Burnley v Norwich: Match thread

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:01 pm

Dyche out. Sick of inept performances

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:01 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:00 pm
Missed Cornet he’s made one start

We know you don't rate him, but I do - deal with it.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm

….cue hysteria…

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:56 pm
FT 0-0.

Missing Ben Mee.

Missing Maxwel Cornet.

UTC

Missing Ben Mee?

Wasn't it the first clean sheet of the season?

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm

Swerving this message board for a couple of weeks, life is negative enough without throwing this in the
Mixer

Maybe should have won today. We weren’t as atrocious as many would have you believe and the arrogance that we should expect to be able to hammer Norwich is frustrating.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:03 pm

Well at least we've climbed a place in the table and only one point off 17.

Though utterly no idea how we are going to win a game this season if we can't beat that lot. Surprising though still 4 teams without a win, we only have to finish top of that league.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:04 pm

Indecisive wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm
Swerving this message board for a couple of weeks, life is negative enough without throwing this in the
Mixer

Maybe should have won today. We weren’t as atrocious as many would have you believe and the arrogance that we should expect to be able to hammer Norwich is frustrating.

That Norwich team could honestly go down as one of the worst teams in premier league history. I would not be surprised if they win less than 3 games all season

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:04 pm

Indecisive wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm
Swerving this message board for a couple of weeks, life is negative enough without throwing this in the
Mixer

Maybe should have won today. We weren’t as atrocious as many would have you believe and the arrogance that we should expect to be able to hammer Norwich is frustrating.

I don’t think it’s about hammering them but to be fair they had lost 16 on the spin. Plus they were comfortably one of the poorer teams I’ve seen over the 90. It’s the fact we’ve created next to nothing.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:05 pm

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm
….cue hysteria…

0 wins in 15 now at home and 4 wins in 27

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm

Come on lads get behind the team, four more years, four more years

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm

I always worry when a team lines up at the start with 3 central defenders because I bet you can count on one hand the number of times we've come out on top when facing that formation on one hand in all the years Dyche has been here. Let's just hope opposing managers don't start to play that formation every weekend because we do absolutely f

CK all to counteract it

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm
Come on lads get behind the team, four more years, four more years

Wonder how long it will be before the new owners pull the trigger

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm

Some fans seem happy to sleepwalk back to the championship. Some want to change things to try and improve.
One things for certain, doing nothing is not working.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm

That was grim.
Lennon, pathetic
Wood, anonymous
Midfield, nowt.

Worrying times.

Norwich are dog poo

s6t9a2f3f · Post by **s6t9a2f3f** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm

Its ok, calm down - pretty sure there's a relegation clause in that new 4 year contract, no way we would contract ourselves to a premiership salary for the championship league.................hmmmmm..........or would we ? could be the highest paid championship manager in history ?

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:01 pm
Based on 4 wins in 27 , well done

Last season we had 2 points from 7 games, yet still stayed up.

This season we have 3 points from 7 games, and yet some folks are suggesting we're already relegated, yes we have issues obviously, but we' aren't a million miles away from winning games, and in this league it's always going to be a struggle for teams like us.

I do admit our home form is a concern, and this is where we miss someone who can create that one moment in a game to turn a 0-0 into a 1-0.

Cornet may help in this respect when he returns, but we could really do with a creative type in January, ideally we'd have got one in the summer, but for a variety of reasons that didn't happen.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm

comfortable point against the team that walked the Championship last season, should do well next season

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:09 pm

Make Burnley Great Again (caps coming soon) in Claret and Blue

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:09 pm

We'll probably go and beat City now at the Etihad...

But obviously we won't, of course. A morale boosting 5-0 thrash to overcome next then....

Dyche sitting pretty. Can't say he'll be that fagged about it will he?

alf_resco · Post by **alf_resco** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:11 pm

I posted a couple of weeks ago: Dyche has played a blinder re his contract.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm
Wonder how long it will be before the new owners pull the trigger

Probably looking at the balance sheet thinking fu king hell

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:11 pm

Barring a few players I am afraid we are dross at this level now

Rombald · Post by **Rombald** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:07 pm
Wonder how long it will be before the new owners pull the trigger

I think you need to go for a lie down, with many others on here. If you think that they will sack dyche after just giving a new contract, you are simply deluded.
The negativity on here is simply mind numbing

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:12 pm

Indecisive wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm
Swerving this message board for a couple of weeks, life is negative enough without throwing this in the
Mixer

Maybe should have won today. We weren’t as atrocious as many would have you believe and the arrogance that we should expect to be able to hammer Norwich is frustrating.

HAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAA

I love messages just like this.

Norwich at home, people expecting a win. HOW DARE THEY.

Just answer me this... who are we going to beat?

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:12 pm

Didn’t help that we didn’t get that penalty when their goalie clouted Vydra
A goal then would have been a great confidence booster

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:13 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:02 pm
Missing Ben Mee?

Wasn't it the first clean sheet of the season?

It was but TBF you do have to take the calibre of opposition into account, however Collins was part of a backline that kept a clean sheet, so in that regard he has be considered a success, and it won't do his confidence any harm will it. Ditto Nick Pope who's had his own issues this season.

Mrpotatohead · Post by **Mrpotatohead** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:13 pm

It's all well and good fans coming on here with their holier-than-thou attitude towards those who are vociferously disappointed with how bad we are performing but the facts are the facts! We are an abject and turgid side currently, with the occasional glimmer of promise. I'm behind Dyche to sort it, but it needs sorting soon. Where our next win is coming from I have no idea.

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:13 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm
Last season we had 2 points from 7 games, yet still stayed up.

This season we have 3 points from 7 games, and yet some folks are suggesting we're already relegated, yes we have issues obviously, but we' aren't a million miles away from winning games, and in this league it's always going to be a struggle for teams like us.

I do admit our home form is a concern, and this is where we miss someone who can create that one moment in a game to turn a 0-0 into a 1-0.

Cornet may help in this respect when he returns, but we could really do with a creative type in January, ideally we'd have got one in the summer, but for a variety of reasons that didn't happen.

But for the bottom 3 being so shite last time out (tbf Fulham seemed pretty unlucky so often) we might not have stayed up.

Maybe we'll be the Fulham of this season. A season full of hard luck stories and what should have beens.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:14 pm

It will be interesting to hear what the happy clappers think about all this, i wait with baited breath for their analysis

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:14 pm

Bad result. No expectation to thrash Norwich but we have to win games to stay up, and a home game against the worst side in the league is a good place to start. Dismal run of results, particularly at turf Moor, getting hard to see where we're going to get the points we need. At the moment it's very hard to find 3 teams worse than us, the league is stronger this year and we are not. A lot of pressure on Cornet when he returns to lift us creatively along with Vyds and Mcneill.

I'm not hysterical, and don't want Dyche fired, those are just the facts as I see them.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:14 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm
Last season we had 2 points from 7 games, yet still stayed up.

This season we have 3 points from 7 games, and yet some folks are suggesting we're already relegated, yes we have issues obviously, but we' aren't a million miles away from winning games, and in this league it's always going to be a struggle for teams like us.

I do admit our home form is a concern, and this is where we miss someone who can create that one moment in a game to turn a 0-0 into a 1-0.

Cornet may help in this respect when he returns, but we could really do with a creative type in January, ideally we'd have got one in the summer, but for a variety of reasons that didn't happen.

“Variety of different reasons” = 1 reason not being able to afford or reluctance to spend the players were available always have been at a price.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:17 pm

Should have used some of the youth on the bench. They’re the future.
Oh, hang on.

leightonjameslegend · Post by **leightonjameslegend** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:18 pm

Negativity! Form is awful over 2 seasons. We have just given Norwich their first point. They are awful! Yes we were missing Cornet, can look forward to Roberts. But if Wood doesn't score we are fcked. More worrying is Lennon starting and repeating the same balls and tactics over and over again. We are in trouble, simple as that!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:22 pm

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:14 pm
“Variety of different reasons” = 1 reason not being able to afford or reluctance to spend the players were available always have been at a price.

But if we'd splashed out say £15m on AMN for example, maybe we wouldn't then have been able to stretch our finances to get Cornet.

Of course the players are available at a price, but we have to shop sensibly.

And it's not only the initial transfer fees that's our problem, it seems to be more the salaries that we're struggling to match.

A defour type could well have made all the difference today, alas they generally don't come cheap, hence why we've never adequately replaced Defour.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:25 pm

We need to spend big in Jan get some quality in the side, we had no idea today how to break Norwich down, the crosses were absolutely appalling from Taylor and Lowton today, seen better in Sunday league, before I get flamed ill bid you farewell for the evening, have a good one fellow clarets

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:25 pm

Even Norwichs bench was a lot stronger than ours today. Cornet was a good signing but it's fairly evident over 6 seasons we just can't afford to dine at the top table. The squad can do better than this, but not much better. We're probably a bottom 3 squad in terms of ability

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:26 pm

.. And it testament to Dyche and the players he's had while in the Premier league that we've over performed in some seasons

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:30 pm

kazza wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:01 pm
We know you don't rate him, but I do - deal with it.

Can you point out where I’ve said I don’t rate Cornet , thanks ?

leightonjameslegend · Post by **leightonjameslegend** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:31 pm

It's not just about spending money on new players. It's having a plan to change things during a game to get a result. After 45 mins of seeing every high cross easily dealt with by Hanley you would imagine a manager would suggest through balls on the deck. But no we just keep doing the same things over and over again!

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:31 pm

There won’t be a weaker team to visit us. We just look so weak in the final third. We could have played all night and not scored. Really poor run of results at Turf Moor.

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:31 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:30 pm
Can you point out where I’ve said I don’t rate Cornet , thanks ?

No need to thank me. I'd prefer not to deal with you if that's ok. The last thing somebody wants after this result is you.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:32 pm

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:08 pm
Last season we had 2 points from 7 games, yet still stayed up.

This season we have 3 points from 7 games, and yet some folks are suggesting we're already relegated, yes we have issues obviously, but we' aren't a million miles away from winning games, and in this league it's always going to be a struggle for teams like us.

I do admit our home form is a concern, and this is where we miss someone who can create that one moment in a game to turn a 0-0 into a 1-0.

Cornet may help in this respect when he returns, but we could really do with a creative type in January, ideally we'd have got one in the summer, but for a variety of reasons that didn't happen.

Last season we hadn’t had 4 wins from 27

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 pm

kazza wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:31 pm
No need to thank me. I'd prefer not to deal with you if that's ok. The last thing somebody wants after this result is you.

Be happy just lying then , you need to make your mind up about the result

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 pm

Rombald wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:11 pm
I think you need to go for a lie down, with many others on here. If you think that they will sack dyche after just giving a new contract, you are simply deluded.
The negativity on here is simply mind numbing

If you think our owners aren’t going to sack the manager if results don’t improve then you are incredibly naive.

There entire business plan is reliant on premier league income.

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 pm
Be happy just lying then , you need to make your mind up about the result

That makes no sense, but let's leave it at that please.

Rombald · Post by **Rombald** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 pm
If you think our owners aren’t going to sack the manager if results don’t improve then you are incredibly naive.

There entire business plan is reliant on premier league income.

OK. As you wish. I'm more than happy to be naive.
Have a happy evening.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:36 pm

kazza wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:33 pm
That makes no sense, but let's leave it at that please.

I’d like you to point out where I’ve said I don’t rate Cornet , please , simply request, or did you just make it up ?

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:36 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:36 pm
I’d like you to point out where I’ve said I don’t rate Cornet , please , simply request, or did you just make it up ?

Go away.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:38 pm

kazza wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:36 pm
Go away.

Answer the question then I’ll go away

mikeS · Post by **mikeS** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:39 pm

Oooh that was bad. Bad referee, bad football, bad weather, it had the lot. Grim