Newcastle takeover

[daveisaclaret]

Were they surprised they charged fees? Or were they surprised at the amounts they charged, or the nature of their business?

What’s the difference?

[Newcastleclaret93]

You sound more excited for this takeover than I think you've ever been for Burnley's

Difficult to get excited about some Yanks with no money buying our club haha.

For the premier league as a whole it’s quite exciting to see another potential super power. However for us it is certainly concerning, I saw them as a similar ranked team to ourselves.

[Newcastleclaret93]

One positive is you will have a team on your doorstep who might spend the money you want, play the football you want and be successful. You could finally become happy in life and the forum would be spared your nonsense.

As for your silly response regarding bringing their culture to the North East, some people (accepted normally adults) tend not to be keen on the way certain states are run and their idea of what to do to people who disagree with them, then there are kids who's first thought is how much money they will spend and how big they might become.

If you think Saudi operates any differently to the rest of the Middle Eastern countries you are incredibly naive.

Some of the worst humanitarians issues I have personally seen were in Dubai and Oman.

[gandhisflipflop]

What’s the difference?

There's a pretty big difference. I am sure that if we had inner knowledge of the nature of transfers, some of their practices would surprise even us.

[gandhisflipflop]

Difficult to get excited about some Yanks with no money buying our club haha.

For the premier league as a whole it’s quite exciting to see another potential super power. However for us it is certainly concerning, I saw them as a similar ranked team to ourselves.

How have they got no money?

[RicardoMontalban]

If you think Saudi operates any differently to the rest of the Middle Eastern countries you are incredibly naive.

Some of the worst humanitarians issues I have personally seen were in Dubai and Oman.

Don’t think anyone has suggested they are exceptional in that respect, far from it. That there are equally poor regimes, or worse, doesn’t deflect from people’s concerns about this particular instance does it?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Don’t think anyone has suggested they are exceptional in that respect, far from it. That there are equally poor regimes, or worse, doesn’t deflect from people’s concerns about this particular instance does it?

No that’s fairs, however it’s merely down to the fact that no one bats an eye lid at the other owners with precarious backgrounds.

Man City’s owners are hailed as some of the best in football for everything they do for the community. Yet they come from just as shady backgrounds.

[claret2018]

Most billionaires come from shady backgrounds. No one makes that much money with exploiting someone or something along the way

[GodIsADeeJay81]

How have they got no money?

They're not oil Rich billionaires = no money

[GodIsADeeJay81]

No that’s fairs, however it’s merely down to the fact that no one bats an eye lid at the other owners with precarious backgrounds.

Man City’s owners are hailed as some of the best in football for everything they do for the community. Yet they come from just as shady backgrounds.

Just shows that Man City's owners have achieved their aim of sports washing their image.

[Newcastleclaret93]

They're not oil Rich billionaires = no money

Or is it simply they in relative comparison to this division and the league below our owners are one of the poorest?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Or is it simply they in relative comparison to this division and the league below our owners are one of the poorest?

Dunno, I've never seen their financials, neither have you, so you're making an assumption to suit your agenda and that's why you're excited by the Newcastle takeover because it clearly involves a lot of money.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Dunno, I've never seen their financials, neither have you, so you're making an assumption to suit your agenda and that's why you're excited by the Newcastle takeover because it clearly involves a lot of money.

We will soon see.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

We will soon see.

Wont matter, you're set in stone with your negative views, so whatever the outcome is you've always been clear you don't want our owners here.

Have a good day, I'm not batting this back and forth again

[RicardoMontalban]

No that’s fairs, however it’s merely down to the fact that no one bats an eye lid at the other owners with precarious backgrounds.

Man City’s owners are hailed as some of the best in football for everything they do for the community. Yet they come from just as shady backgrounds.

You’re right. There does seem to be a certain blindness that exists, like it’s too uncomfortable to really get stuck into the fact that some of the currently biggest clubs in the world are backed by states with appalling human rights records. Not some dodgy businessman, but the investment funds of sovereign states called out by organisations such as Amnesty International.

Not sure I’m comfortable with that but given football’s insatiable hunger for revenue and markets I can’t see it changing anytime soon.

[Jakubclaret]

How have they got no money?

They’ve got money via a credit facility with the bank.

[Rileybobs]

If Newcastle come out of the January window with no signings because the owners are surprised that agents charge fees, you might have a point.

Obviously Newcastle's take over is a completely different beast to ours. But that doesn't necessarily mean that them having the ability to splash the cash is a guarantee that they'll get out of trouble. They've spent a hell of a lot of money under Ashley and look where they are.

[Billy Balfour]

EPL, eh? I bet North Korea would pass their fit-and-proper test.

[claretonthecoast1882]

If you think Saudi operates any differently to the rest of the Middle Eastern countries you are incredibly naive.

Some of the worst humanitarians issues I have personally seen were in Dubai and Oman.

I asked the other day if you could read. Could you show me where I said anything like what you have said above ?

[Jakubclaret]

Obviously Newcastle's take over is a completely different beast to ours. But that doesn't necessarily mean that them having the ability to splash the cash is a guarantee that they'll get out of trouble. They've spent a hell of a lot of money under Ashley and look where they are.

The policy will be completely different & target driven the problems previously stemmed from poor recruitment, Newcastle will now be on a upwards trajectory make no bones about that.

[Roosterbooster]

EPL, eh? I bet North Korea would pass their fit-and-proper test.

Nah. They'd fail. But the "Kim Jong-Un Equality, Inclusivity and Diversity Foundation Consortium" would pass with flying colours

[Cirrus_Minor]

EPL, eh? I bet North Korea would pass their fit-and-proper test.

This actually occurred to me yesterday.

[Steve1956]

One and a half Joelintons. That should see them right.

It's going to be fun watching Newcastle spunk Millions on a team full of Joelinton's

[elwaclaret]

Wonder how many arms deals this agreement took. Totally morally corrupt, totally expected.

[4:20]

Potential wealth of owners in pie chart form

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[Devils_Advocate]

I know with Scotty Parker in charge Bournemouth are dead certs to be back in the Prem but Im not convinced Sheff Utd will be back

[Roosterbooster]

And this is why they need to start taking FFP seriously. Otherwise it's going to become a joke. I was always against a salary cap. I'm beginning to change my mind. And I would imagine clubs in other countries might also be in favour now. I imagine PSG are the only ones anywhere near that sort of wealth

[Paul Waine]

Potential wealth of owners in pie chart form

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Hi 4:20, what season/year is your chart from? Sheff Utd and Bournemouth no longer in the Prem. Where are Norwich and Brentford? Is the chart from before of after ALK acquired Burnley?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Wont matter, you're set in stone with your negative views, so whatever the outcome is you've always been clear you don't want our owners here.

Have a good day, I'm not batting this back and forth again

Newcastleclaret logs off, jakub almost immediately logs on to carry on his conversation.

iiiiiiinteresting.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Makes Alan look like Mother Theresa.

I’m very pleased these guys own our club, I couldn’t in good conscience give my money to NUFC if that regime was in charge.

I assume a Russian sovereign wealth fund or that from countless other countries would now have to get the green light too. It’ll be like the United Nations, or better worded as a dodgy dystopian UN.

On second thoughts, maybe keep hold of the shares in BFC they may end up worth a few bob more

[4:20]

Hi 4:20, what season/year is your chart from? Sheff Utd and Bournemouth no longer in the Prem. Where are Norwich and Brentford? Is the chart from before of after ALK acquired Burnley?

Hi Paul Waine, my apologies for the two year old pie chart, apparently it did the rounds back then when the Newcastle/Saudi link began and now its resurfaced again on Twitter. I just saw that big black Newcastle Pacman, did a big gulp and posted it without even realising it was well out of date.

[timshorts]

Currently the geordies are annoying with their we are massive mentality, if the deal goes through they will be totally insufferable.

So far, most of the comments that I've seen are quite amusing. The one about a dream team front three where they include the hapless joelinton, and the one about the new owners signing haaland only for Steve bruce to play him at left back show their mentality:-

It would be nice to believe that the takeover will happen and that the club might be run like a football club rather than aldi, but somehow it will never happen just as it hasn't since shearer was playing - and even then they couldn't win anything other than the intertoto Cup.

Anyway, I'd love it (insert keegan voice) just love it if they suddenly had more money than man utd and Liverpool. And us, Southampton and Norwich and Plymouth and Bristol City (say) for that matter. Those two think that they are at the top by some historical merit which goes back to the seventies and which must always be thus for reason unknown, and that it was not just because they used to buy off all the other clubs best players long before Chelsea and man city did it. No real surprise that it has transpired that they were behind the rejection of the ashley sale proposal.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I presume all press reports about the new ownership will be universally positive from now on!

[Im_not_Robbie_Blake]

Ribera could be sp[ell check for Ribena??

[Sproggy]

The Premier League is about to sink to a new low. The sad but inevitable consequence of letting the richest clubs do what they want financially with whoever they want as owners.

It will however, be incredibly funny watching the Super League Six be relegated to also-rans in a one-horse race over the next few years.

[quoonbeatz]

For the premier league as a whole it’s quite exciting to see another potential super power.

It really isn't. There shouldn't be any 'superpowers'.

Another artificially boosted club is about the worst thing that could happen to this or any other league.

[JohnMac]

Really really bad news for us. With these owners they could spend 50-60m in January.

Hopefully on another one and a half Joelinton's

[gawthorpe_view]

Shares transferred to the new owners, looks like a done deal.

[ceborame]

That'll be Steve Bruce's head on the chopping block ........

[GodIsADeeJay81]

That'll be Steve Bruce's head on the chopping block ........

This could be literally or figuratively....

[Woodleyclaret]

Steve Bruce is a past master at wasting money on dross and Newcastle fans complain that he's spent nothing
They have spent over £250m over the past 3 yrs and are still behind us in the league

[Spiral]

Potential wealth of owners in pie chart form

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Looks a lot but you need to remember that a fair whack of that is spent buying weapons from the UK to blow Yemeni civilians into tiny little chunks indiscriminately. Ooh, and don't forget about the property plays in London.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Amusingly this has triggered a number of Utd and Arsenal fans on twitter, #Glazersout is trending again whilst Kroenke is coming in for some abuse

I think they're feeling threatened already

[tarkys_ears]

Now they've got what they wished for... lets see how they react

[Commy]

Richest owners in the league worth £250b. I would enjoy spending some of that

[Burnley Ace]

Just watching Staveley interview (you’d cut your finger on those cheekbones!) is that a vote of confidence in Bruce?

[Ashingtonclaret46]

So it will be PL Champions next season and Champions of Europe in 2023/24 ---at least that is the impression of some of the folk wandering the streets of Newcastle.
I suppose that they have been starved of success because the last time they were Champions of England was 1926/27 although they did manage a run of FA Cup successes in the 1950s but the last of those was 1954/55.
They are happy that Ashley has gone and there will be even more clamour to get rid of Bruce ---it really is good for a laugh living up here when talking about The Toon.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Just watching Staveley interview (you’d cut your finger on those cheekbones!) is that a vote of confidence in Bruce?

Cut, bones.
Very apt for this lot taking over.

[fidelcastro]

i dislike footy more and more every day, the PL is becoming a Billionaires play thing

Me too, but the way energy bills are going, I won't be able to afford to go before long anyway!

[Billy Balfour]

Fidel, best to go on, in the depths of winter, while only wearing a thin t-shirt. That way, you won't feel the bitter cold when you get home to your unheated home.