Dean Smith is potted

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It's all happening in the Prem !

[Herts Clarets]

15 minutes ago I messaged a mate who is a Villa fan and asked how looking he felt Smith had. He reckoned 1 more game.......

[Milltown1882]

Denmark manager lined up to replace him. Soon as that came out it was only a matter of time before they sacked him.

[elwaclaret]

I thought he’d get another couple of weeks. They’ve had a bad run but he deserved more time after how he turned their fortunes around.

[claretburns]

If these clubs have managers lined up, possibly the right time to do it with the international break and two weeks on the training ground.

[Billy Balfour]

This weekend has seen a bonfire of managers.

[ClaretTony]

15 now gone since start of season in top four divisions and an incredible 34 clubs have made changes since the end of last season.

Thomas Tuchel, appointed on 26th January this year at Chelsea, is now in the top half in 46th place.

[Milltown1882]

15 now gone since start of season in top four divisions and an incredible 34 clubs have made changes since the end of last season.

Thomas Tuchel, appointed on 26th January this year at Chelsea, is now in the top half in 46th place.

How high is Dyche on this list?

[claretburns]

How high is Dyche on this list?

He is 2nd or 3rd I believe. He is definitely behind the Harrogate manager, but not sure if he is ahead or behind Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe.

[Swizzlestick]

He is 2nd or 3rd I believe. He is definitely behind the Harrogate manager, but not sure if he is ahead or behind Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe.

Think Ainsworth has been there slightly longer.

[tiger76]

He is 2nd or 3rd I believe. He is definitely behind the Harrogate manager, but not sure if he is ahead or behind Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe.

3rd behind the 2 you mentioned, but he must be easily the longest serving current PL manager by a distance.

[ClaretTony]

How high is Dyche on this list?

Third behind Simon Weaver (Harrogate) and Gareth Ainsworth (Wycombe)

[ClaretTony]

3rd behind the 2 you mentioned, but he must be easily the longest serving current PL manager by a distance.

Klopp is second on PL list - October 2015 - so three years after Dyche.

[tiger76]

Klopp is second on PL list - October 2015 - so three years after Dyche.

That fact just illustrates how trigger happy PL clubs are these days, thankfully we seem to have a more sensible approach, and don't pot the gaffer when we go through a lean period, long may this common sense attitude continue at BFC.

[Roosterbooster]

TBF to Villa top brass, they have spent an absolute fortune, and every other club who has spent that sort of money has either won something or sacked their manager much sooner.

Except for Man U with OGS that is

[claretburns]

TBF to Villa top brass, they have spent an absolute fortune, and every other club who has spent that sort of money has either won something or sacked their manager much sooner.

Except for Man U with OGS that is

A net spend of roughly £219 million since Smith took over, the Villa hierarchy will definitely be expecting a better return on that.

[dandeclaret]

This is the one club potting their manager, who concerns me about ours.

[claretandy]

This is the one club potting their manager, who concerns me about ours.

Villa after Gerrard and Hassenhutl according to John Percy.

[Boss Hogg]

15 now gone since start of season in top four divisions and an incredible 34 clubs have made changes since the end of last season.

Thomas Tuchel, appointed on 26th January this year at Chelsea, is now in the top half in 46th place.

Yet there are still a lot of long term contracts handed out to managers but this trend could be changing.

[elwaclaret]

This is the one club potting their manager, who concerns me about ours.

Yes me too. There was plenty of talk about Dean Smith doing it Dyche style when they were promoted, Villa has to be a threat even with the new contract.

[ClaretTony]

Villa after Gerrard and Hassenhutl according to John Percy.

You would think he’d have to be a target but so many other clubs have ignored him and gone down the wrong road. Let’s hope Villa do.

[claretburns]

Net spend of sacked Premier League managers so far this season below:

Daniel Farke, Norwich City, since becoming manager in 2017: +£41.5 million
Dean Smith, Aston Villa, since becoming manager in 2018: -£219 million
Nuno Espirito Santo, Tottenham, since becoming manager in 2021: -£31 million
Steve Bruce, Newcastle, since becoming manager in 2019: -£95 million
Xisco Munoz, Watford, since becoming manager in 2020: -£5.3 million

[EarbyClaret]

This is the one club potting their manager, who concerns me about ours.

When Villa first came back up and they were struggling definitely agree. Not so sure now though. As others have said they have spent the kind of money the owners would expect to see converted into a top-half team challenging for European club football - like neighbours Wolves

I don't think a manager like Dyche fits where they are aiming to take the club

[Steve1956]

You would think he’d have to be a target but so many other clubs have ignored him and gone down the wrong road. Let’s hope Villa do.

Newcastle have made the biggest mistake going for our former manager and not our current one just imagine what Dyche could do with a budget like they have.
Long may these clubs continue overlooking one of the best managers in the Premier league eh?

[tiger76]

Net spend of sacked Premier League managers so far this season below:

Daniel Farke, Norwich City, since becoming manager in 2017: +£41.5 million
Dean Smith, Aston Villa, since becoming manager in 2018: -£219 million
Nuno Espirito Santo, Tottenham, since becoming manager in 2021: -£31 million
Steve Bruce, Newcastle, since becoming manager in 2019: -£95 million
Xisco Munoz, Watford, since becoming manager in 2020: -£5.3 million

Looking at that list, then Bruce & Smith do stick out a mile as underachieving, the other 3 can possibly consider themselves unfortunate to be dismissed, but with that amount of net spend by Newcastle and Villa neither would expect to be hovering near the foot of the Prem table.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

John Terry is currently out of work and presumably bored judging by the way he's just appeared on twitter and set about trolling people

[Marney&Mee]

Steve Bruce to Norwich..past connection wise?

[elwaclaret]

John Terry is currently out of work and presumably bored judging by the way he's just appeared on twitter and set about trolling people

Probably thinking he may be up for something on this latest Merry-go-round, think only Terry level arrogance would lead him to think he’s ready for that job, but might fancy Norwich

[ksrclaret]

Christ can you imagine how painful it will be to have to listen to John Terry giving interviews etc each week.

Please keep him away from football, Chairmen and Chairwomen.

[Winstonswhite]

How many managers have we sacked in the last 30 years- 5 ? Mullen Waddle Ternent Cotterill Laws? Not a bad record is it.

[claretburns]

Looking at that list, then Bruce & Smith do stick out a mile as underachieving, the other 3 can possibly consider themselves unfortunate to be dismissed, but with that amount of net spend by Newcastle and Villa neither would expect to be hovering near the foot of the Prem table.

Suppose is also dispels the rumour that Ashley never spent anything at Newcastle.

Dyche has done around £90 million since coming to Burnley but from 2013 summer window to now averages around £5 million spend per window.

[ClaretTony]

How many managers have we sacked in the last 30 years- 5 ? Mullen Waddle Ternent Cotterill Laws? Not a bad record is it.

We didn’t sack Waddle. It was his decision.

[minnieclaret]

We didn’t sack Waddle. It was his decision.

We didn’t sack Stan, he was OOC.

[minnieclaret]

If SD were to leave Denmarks manager would be top of my list. He really has them guys behind him and they play good stuff.
Lampard favourite for the Norwich job, a backward step for me. Couldn’t get Derby up with a team including Mount, Tomori and Wilson. Canned at Chelsea after it appeared the players had given up on him.

[minnieclaret]

The writing was on the wall for Villa. Look at their results without Grealish, last season, and then they sell him.

[Quickenthetempo]

We didn’t sack Waddle. It was his decision.

Is not renewing Stans contract counted as a sacking?

I'm not sure?

[Winstonswhite]

We didn’t sack Stan, he was OOC.

I thought we sacked waddle didn’t realise he walked.

I also thought Ternent walked but Kilby said otherwise in that podcast the other week.

[jojomk1]

Barry got his own back on Ternent
A month or so before the end of the season Ternent was asked about the next season and he replied
"I'm meeting with the Chairman soon and we will see if his ambitions match mine"
Barry then announced that the club would not be offering a new contract to Stan
Well done Barry
But also fair do's to Stan as he didn't just walk out but stayed until the season was over

[CrispyClaret]

The version I heard from a close source was Stan went to discuss contracts to be told
“I’ve had an epiphany”
Stans’ reply, “what? On the road to Damascus?”

[ClaretTony]

Is not renewing Stans contract counted as a sacking?

I'm not sure?

It was the club's decision that he was no longer our manager so I'd place it in the same category, as I would Steve Cotterill's which was by mutual consent.

[ClaretTony]

But also fair do's to Stan as he didn't just walk out but stayed until the season was over

It was only four or five days later and he was under contract.

[dermotdermot]

That's a sacking for the managers of the two teams directly below us and the two teams directly above us. I'm including Watford on account of the fact that their managers only last, on average, about two months anyway.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

That's a sacking for the managers of the two teams directly below us and the two teams directly above us. I'm including Watford on account of the fact that their managers only last, on average, about two months anyway.

I'm surprised Watford haven't sacked Ranieri just for the sake of it and to join in with everyone else this last week

[nil_desperandum]

If these clubs have managers lined up, possibly the right time to do it with the international break and two weeks on the training ground.

Except at PL level a large proportion of the squad won't be there due to international call-ups.

[Stayingup]

Its the boards who appoint managers but they never seem.to sack themseles, which is a pity.

[JarrowClaret]

Net spend of sacked Premier League managers so far this season below:

Daniel Farke, Norwich City, since becoming manager in 2017: +£41.5 million
Dean Smith, Aston Villa, since becoming manager in 2018: -£219 million
Nuno Espirito Santo, Tottenham, since becoming manager in 2021: -£31 million
Steve Bruce, Newcastle, since becoming manager in 2019: -£95 million
Xisco Munoz, Watford, since becoming manager in 2020: -£5.3 million

Out of interest does that figure for Bruce at Newcastle include the 40 Mil for Joelinton? If it does I’m sure he was signed before Bruce was appointed even though most Newcastle fans do class him as a Bruce signing.

[SouthLondonexile]

Here’s where I think AV will consider their options and look North to East Lancashire. I do believe SD would do really well there, and yes of course I don’t want him to leave.

[TheFamilyCat]

I'm surprised Watford haven't sacked Ranieri just for the sake of it and to join in with everyone else this last week

They're probably just content to be the trend setters.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looking like Stevie G, Fonseca are the likely candidates. Dyche isn’t even on the bookies list strangely enough. I would have thought he would have been at least less than a 10-1 shot

[GodIsADeeJay81]

He's just signed a new deal with us, probably with a reasonable buyout clause.
Yes Villa have the money, but there are other managers who're cheaper/free