Eddie Howe in Newcastle talks

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:32 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:54 pm
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Looking at the last 4 in that list, EH had better hope he can muster a good number of points in his first 4 games, otherwise he might not be at Newcastle when the January window opens.

And he really needs to hot the ground running as everyone knows he wasn't their first choice.

Strange appointment in my view, and even if Eddie does keep Newcastle in the PL, I still have major doubts that he'll be their manager come next season, he's merely keeping the seat warm until they can appoint a big name gaffer.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:37 pm

Eddie needs 6 pts from those 4 games. Minimum. 3 pts or less and he is in deep doo-doo. Massive opportunity for us (we have other winnable games coming up so not the same).

I think he will get those pts due to the initial bounce and key players fit. But he isn’t a top manager.

Pros of appointing him:
1. Attacking football, goals, energising
2. An affable face for an unaffable regime
3. Will bond with the players (maybe not Fraser)

Cons:
1. Has always shipped goals so logic suggests NUFC will need to score a lot
2. Not a disciplinarian, which may cost him at NUFC because he isn’t the same “big cheese” he was at AFCB
3. Likely to see the fans turn quickly if results don't go his way

But he only needs to finish above 3 clubs. Not too tricky.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:45 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:18 pm
He'll be far more positive than Bruce though

Always loved Bruce's negativity and his "hang-dog" look

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:54 pm

No matter how tactically astute Howe is, no matter how good a coach he is, no matter how good a man manager he is, there is also no doubt he can see talent in a player, look at what he brought in for us he still just reminds me of Eoin McLove from Father Ted https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bJwFOAyTkZ8

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:06 am

I’m pretty sure that Eddie Howe will have negotiated and agreed a contact that ensures his involvement in the January window.

The Newcastle fans have already written off this season and their only demand is for PL survival, regardless of the style of play.
The new manager will have Tarkowski high on his list and will see him as a quick fix for Newcastle’s defensive problems. Tarks has vast experience in playing for the master of defensive strategies and in my opinion the new Newcastle manager will see him as a leader and training coach into Newcastle’s Burnleyesque performances for the remaining games this season.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:50 am

Tarkowski would be mad to go there. I like Eddie Howe but he will get them relegated. In fact, I will give him until March when I guarantee he will be gone.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:42 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:50 am
Tarkowski would be mad to go there. I like Eddie Howe but he will get them relegated. In fact, I will give him until March when I guarantee he will be gone.

If relegation does happen EH will be a factor, the facts are 11 games have already been played yielding 5pts from a maximum of 33 it’s wrong to apportion blame from the start, I expect Newcastle to now improve whether that’s enough depends on January & EH overall impact.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:49 pm

Go on I’ll say it…

For me, Bruce is a better manager than Eddie Howe.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:20 pm

Not a good start for Eddie and the Geordies. Can you get the "new manager bounce" without the new manager there?

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Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:28 pm

Soft southern shandy drinker has got homesick already

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:41 pm

This is an ill omen o' dread yit tae come. Och, mak' mah wurds 'n' marc thaim weel.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:49 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:49 pm
Go on I’ll say it…

For me, Bruce is a better manager than Eddie Howe.

I think "when the chips are down" you may be right. SB might have more of a stomach for a dog fight than EH

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:54 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:49 pm
I think "when the chips are down" you may be right. SB might have more of a stomach for a dog fight than EH

It's never a bad thing to be able to dig yourself out of the shyte you've put yourself in

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:58 pm

Edfie is currently tucked up in bed with his jamas and Buzz Lightyear toy keeping him happy.

Bless.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:08 pm

Well, he did say he was looking for a positive result this weekend.

Peter Loo · Post by **Peter Loo** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:48 pm

Wonder what the odds are for Howe going before Xmas this year.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:58 pm

Fretters wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:08 pm
Well, he did say he was looking for a positive result this weekend.

Brilliant

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:09 am

If he’s on 10 days isolation, wouldn’t that make his first game v Burnley?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:24 am

This is all a bit flippant. Perhaps Eddie is quite unwell. I, personally, wish him a speedy recovery.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:11 am

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:24 am
This is all a bit flippant. Perhaps Eddie is quite unwell. I, personally, wish him a speedy recovery.

He's fine with no symptoms (I checked this before making my joke).

Peter Loo · Post by **Peter Loo** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:53 am

Peter Loo wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:48 pm
Wonder what the odds are for Howe going before Xmas this year.

I attempted to get odds from a bookmaker online to no avail.

Unfortunately no time today to visit a shop either.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:09 am

Peter Loo wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:53 am
I attempted to get odds from a bookmaker online to no avail.

Unfortunately no time today to visit a shop either.

You can just send me your money if you really want to give it away

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 5:29 pm

What a great thread to highlight how clueless so many posters on here are. I'd pick out a few of the most idiotic post but there's just too many to choose from.

As per usual there's a few of us who talk sense and aren't full of cliché's and/or blinded by our Burnley bias

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:27 pm

No doubt the same people who all thought Potter was useless as well.

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:25 pm

Money, money, money......

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:31 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:50 am
Tarkowski would be mad to go there. I like Eddie Howe but he will get them relegated. In fact, I will give him until March when I guarantee he will be gone.

ooft

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:33 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:49 pm
Go on I’ll say it…

For me, Bruce is a better manager than Eddie Howe.

Jesus christ, no wonder my expertise stand out a mile on here, you lot are damn clueless

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:34 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:33 pm
Jesus christ, no wonder my expertise stand out a mile on here, you lot are damn clueless

You forgot the smiley.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:36 pm

jen1066 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:34 pm
You forgot the smiley.

smiley for what? I'm damn serious

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:38 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:36 pm
smiley for what? I'm damn serious

It depends if you care how other people see you.

I see you as knowing next to nothing about football and I think I know a lot more about football than you. I'll never see you as an expert in football.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:40 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:49 pm
Go on I’ll say it…

For me, Bruce is a better manager than Eddie Howe.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:46 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:27 pm
No doubt the same people who all thought Potter was useless as well.

I’ve no idea how the pair will do as the season gets deeper ,but though I rate both , the sheer money /players at their fingertips etc can blur ability for quite some time . Sadly if either had a 5 game lose/draw streak the knives would be out and ready.

Longtimeclaret · Post by **Longtimeclaret** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:46 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:49 pm
Go on I’ll say it…

For me, Bruce is a better manager than Eddie Howe.

Which all proves that you are clueless about Football

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:47 pm

Longtimeclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:46 pm
Which all proves that you are clueless about Football

It doesn't though, does it?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:52 pm

jen1066 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:47 pm
It doesn't though, does it?

Bruce. Sacked by Newcastle. Sacked by West Brom.

Howe, performing miracles at Newcastle.

Hmm.

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:54 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:52 pm
Bruce. Sacked by Newcastle. Sacked by West Brom.

Howe, performing miracles at Newcastle.

Hmm.

Come on. I'm a fan of yours and think you talk a lot of sense, but you've ignored money. You think Howe doing well has nothing to do with money? Come on.

Anyway, I'm backing John so not really my debate.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:54 pm

jen1066 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:38 pm
It depends if you care how other people see you.

I see you as knowing next to nothing about football and I think I know a lot more about football than you. I'll never see you as an expert in football.

I don't care what you think, I've forgot more than you will ever know.

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:55 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:54 pm
I don't care what you think, I've forgot more than you will ever know.

I know a lot more than you. Stop wasting your time.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:00 pm

jen1066 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:54 pm
Come on. I'm a fan of yours and think you talk a lot of sense, but you've ignored money. You think Howe doing well has nothing to do with money? Come on.

Anyway, I'm backing John so not really my debate.

money doesn't guarantee shite, especially in the PL where there are way bigger spenders than Newcastle. Howe hasn't spent a fortune either.
Today's starting 11:

Pope £10m
Trippier £10m Botman £30m, Schar (already there), Burn £7m
Longstaff Joelinton (already there) Bruno £35m
Almiron Wilson Willock (already there)

£90m ish, in a league where teams spend that on 1 player. I know there's others like Wood and Isak who didn't play but fair play to Howe, his best work has been transforming the players already there and adding excellent smart signings like Burn, Trippier and Pope for less than £30m combined.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:07 pm

Players who were ordinary under Bruce have been rejuvenated under Howe - Joelinton, Almiron mainly - a sign of a very good coach. Having money guarantees nothing. Most of his signings have improved the team, not least Pope, Trippier, Burn, Guimares, Botman. It’s also notable how much he’s improved his defensive side as a coach. Top manager but I do fear the Saudis will pot him for a ‘glamour’ name when they can as this isn’t about football for them but PR.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:35 pm

Longtimeclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:46 pm
Which all proves that you are clueless about Football

No doubt that Howe’s doing well. He deserves his plaudits. Fair play!

No mention of money though. But each to their own. I based my assessment on where they were then and I stand by it. I also bases it on what I have been told about him as a person around the training ground. Bruce maybe at the end but he’s done ok. Bruce was barely given a penny.

Ps. Nope, I know bugger all about football

But back to the point…fair play Eddie Howe

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:38 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 23, 2022 7:40 pm

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sun Oct 23, 2022 8:57 pm

Common myth that Bruce had no money to spend. Joelinton, Wilson, Saint-Maximin, Lewis, Willock - all big money.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm

Doing a fantastic job now he’s sorted out his teams defensive naivety out. Has a great eye for players too. Knows how to play entertaining stuff.